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i saw some kid wearing these vans i cannot ID.

they look like converse basics, i think they might have even had a rubber cap toe. they are not the eras or anything you'd find on zappos.

color was white canvas with black detailing (sole stripe, logo on back).

lace-ups.

no padding (not a skate-type shoe). not even a vinyl ankle support pad.

not any of the marc jacobs vans. looks like the Ferris model, but i swear it had a slight wraparound captoe.

maybe a vault thing? its killing me.

WTB: APC Derbies, black, size 10 or that neighborhood US.

These were the ones from spring 2007, plain round toe,

slightly oily looking leather with a very thin, rubbery crepe sole.

Will pay good bux. PM me.

I recommend this guy. Really fast communication is a plus for me.

thanks, i did not know they were called Winos. found a ton on ebay for cheap, thanks a lot darlin cora !

i bought this shoe in some old shoe store that was closing down in Tribeca. ive seen one other person wear it, all the way in los angeles. it cost about 10 bucks i think...wondering if anybody knows where to find more.

(There are no branding marks anywhere at all on either shoe of the pair)

oh shit! i just realized i have no money and shouldnt even be thinking about this! :confused: :eek:

if anybody just has this and wants to take a pic or something to fuck with my head, thats cool, otherwise sorry!!!!!

i have some goods or cash i can offer up if somebody has this tote. i procrastinated on buying it when it was out, but i know ive seen some floating around the streets of NYC...

it is a simple plain black tote with a white, flat geometric shape on it. i believe the season was A/W 2006. please PM me if you have seen it around.

[mods: sorry if i posted this in the wrong place?]

some examples, in the same thinking, that might irk you:

- phillipe starck killed furniture design.

- the neptunes and timbaland killed R+B and commercial hip-hop.

- online blogging put the final nail in the coffin of print media credibility.

- the advent microwaves killed serious cooking.

see how nebulous of an approach it is? good for debate, but pointless and flat out wrong to assert as stone cold fact.

haha i gotta go to sleep soon, dude, but really. nothing personal. good dialogue, i guess.

nobody is gonna argue those urban jokey shirts are stupid, but look - there are going to be a lot of things anybody could argue are dumbing their genre down. the overarching point im trying to make is, cultivating the "us versus them" mentality does nothing, in fashion, or music, or whatever. the trick is learning how to define your viewpoint without resorting to using comparison right off the bat.

next time dont be so butthurt that some people on a forum dissed on your favorite store.

Nelson Muntz

i think its important at this point i mention i rarely, rarely like anything urban stocks. nor do i see myself ever really shopping there on a regular basis. my personal "style" is different, but i know i'm not above urban -- i like places like uniqlo, h+m, and a ton of other stores that could meet with the exact same bogus accusations.

if you can't see the shoddy logic in attacking a store, using the argument that they somehow dumb down fashion as one of your pivot points, i think you automaticallly delineate yourself as being immature. turn that thinking around on itself and think hard about the stores, labels, or people you'd counter urban outfitters with. far more often than not, you'll see the exact same veins of thought and structure. that's what i mean about having a knowledge of fashion, and why yours seems inferior if you jump on this bandwagon. fashion envelops not only garments and marketing, it's about social mores, commodification, financial effectiveness, and other literal, dry things that aren't quite so easy to pluck apart and insult.

i'm also suggesting marc jacobs stink rat polos. they are perhaps the best fitting polos for dirt cheap prices. they are almost a bargain at its retail price

oh yeah, true. really great, but the sleeves on mine almost seem to taper in at the hem, sort of weird, gives a puffy look...

what? i don't work for them, no. i have a pair of BDG pants that i have worn literally 3 weeks in a row, going on about a year plus of owning them. other than some scuffing that came after washing, they're fine. now you're gonna follow me around cuz i shut you down? sad, man. i got a girl already, sorry.

no point misconstruing anger with a solid counter point. i think a thread that lasts 5 pages, basically blasting a store and its clientele, is painting a really sad painting of what this forum is about at its core. i'm making a point against all these people and saying: you are not better than the clerks or shoppers at urban. you are not above them stylistically or ethically. once you get more informed about what fashion is, and maybe life in general, you'll see there's no point drawing lines like that and declaring yourself a better side.

you happened to speak out, so i addressed you directly.

ps - tailoring a pair of pants should not cost you over 20 bucks with even the most competent tailor.

have you heard of a tailor? just saying. if you're that concerned about fits, and know so much about fashion, you'd know you can get any pair of pants tailored. also, i think i'll just stop speaking on this now, because i think the point is lost on you if you keep insisting that everyone on this forum thinks like you, but -- you are generalizing about the people who patronize urban outfitters. if you want to engage in a meaningful debate, and at least prove that you are some what credible, you wouldn't come to the table with bullshit "us versus them" generalities like that. good luck with your life.

haha ps dude - i just saw your myspace pics. you think you're setting yourself apart from the swarm of identically-dressed douchebags planted inside Supreme, Union, Commonwealth or whatever else, every day? for real, grow up.

where the majority of these people keeps up with worldly fashion and shops higher end for a reason.

what annoys me the most are the hipster kids who act all elitist by wearing a pair of BDG skinny jeans. I shop higher end because 1) I can, 2) they look better, 3) because i thoroughly enjoy fashion in general.

wow how old are you? 16?

because you shop "higher end" does not elevate your taste by default. exclusivity and attainability have no relation whatsoever to style. if you are defined by your clothes, you're pointing to a pretty shallow personality right away. the labels you probably adore commodify as relentlessly as all the stuff you'd find at the store, and plant you firmly into the hipster demographic you seem to think you're outside of. how can you say you enjoy fashion when you seem to have a very surface understanding of what it really is?

http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=23650&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=1080&iProductID=23650

BDG is generally very on point.

H+M had polos last summer for like 12 bucks. the epitome of plain polos, no extraneous details, appliques, anything. the drawback, of course, was that they shrunk like crazy, to the point where i can't even wear them at all anymore. i hope they carry them again this year, ill be sure to buy a full size up. they were perfect.

i want to share cuz i had a horrible time with coping with super cold winters, and this worked --- get anything at american apparel, maybe one size too small. their long sleeved tees work perfect as thermal underwear, they fit snug enough to if you wear something over it, no contours or anything are visible.

this thread seems finely divided smack down the middle between fratboy race fetishists and kal penn/bobby lee/margaret cho asian kids who haven't learned to address their racial identity the right way yet.

i hope nobody is taking the questions or answers seriously, but that's naive to assume for sure.

yea im asian too.

you think youre somehow enlightened because you would rather shell out extra dollars to kiss a designer's ass and rock their clothes? like wearing a comme des garcons blazer will somehow delineate you as more unique than somebody who shops at urban. besides that being the most glaringly inept of reasonings, some people would actually argue they are somehow above all the "unethical" things urban purports to do. grow up, dudes, there's blood on everyone's hands, including the mom-and-pop operations you patronize. i liken any of you that are decrying "mass fashion" to ranty high-schoolers who don't understand the bigger pictures of fashion, fashion history, and commerce in general.

it's ok to dislike a store's creative direction, but to lump its clientele off as less informed or stylish than you is just elitist and idiotic.

who are japanese buyers besides coldrice, 2000db, and parachutes. theyre all busy or sick or whatever right now.

porter bags, or better yet, bootleg porter bags

army "helmet" bags too