johnmc

Real old 501's will have a low number or maybe a letter on the back of the top button or it may be blank. If they have been washed many times the red lines in the selvage will be faded to pink or not even visible.

Edited by johnmc on May 1, 2005 at 11:48 AM

80's 501's (after the 524 etc redlines) had it.

Levi's only put 501 on the back of the top button after they stopped using XX (selvage) denim - the LVC repros generally have 555 on the back of the buttons. Pre 1950 Levi's had a one sided red tab.

Are you talking about these ones: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52392&item=8302953321&rd=1 501 on the back of the top button????

and these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52392&item=8302954081&rd=1 501 on the back of the top button????

and these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52392&item=8302956851&rd=1 LEvi's written on both sides of the tag????

You don't even have to look at the pictures to know they're not real!

Edited by johnmc on Apr 28, 2005 at 02:54 PM

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Those are so awesome, they nearly defy the '95 Fuck-Up levi's.

--- Original message by skecr8r on Apr 26, 2005 06:21 AM

What are'the '95 Fuck-Up levi's'?

Check http://denimjunkies.com

You can get the stains off leather with a rubber eraser, it works to a certain extent on suede and you can always get new laces.

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Those pics are horible! and you might want to do some ironing!

--- Original message by Serge d Nimes on Apr 20, 2005 07:07 AM

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More info please! - good post!

Up until 1982 red tabs were only used on Levi's products made from premium quality denim made on shuttle looms. orange tabs were used on their second quality denim made on projectile looms.

In the past Levi's always had a red line in their selvage which quickly faded with washing, Wrangler had a blue line and Lee had plain selvage.

http://www.evilmonito.com/store/ fiberops again

You missed these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8300723781&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

hanon shop have these:

Edited by johnmc on Apr 10, 2005 at 08:57 AM

Check out http://krudmart.com

one of the best london stores

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Where cone mills all sold from San Francisco, and for a minimal sum too?

--- Original message by I J F on Mar 29, 2005 09:25 PM

I have read that they sold all the looms and had to go to Japan to buy looms for the LVC line.

No selvage:

http://81.7.135.211/racescoot/adly/ijin/ijin2%20005.jpg

selvage:

Edited by johnmc on Mar 29, 2005 at 03:10 PM

I think all that fake distressing looks really tacky and nasty - so obviously fake.

Does anyone know if new narrow shuttle looms are being manufactured? It seems to me they must be with so many companies making jeans with selvage, they can't all be made on the old looms bought up by people like Yamane in the 70's and 80's. Some of the older 30's and 40's looms are only capable of producing one roll of denim a day.

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Thanks - I'll give it a try.

Edited by johnmc on Mar 24, 2005 at 09:07 AM

Anyone ever bought anything off the aNYthing site? http://www.anything.splay.com/#apple I emailed them twice to buy a couple of tees and got no reply!

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what about vintage Levi's? 501, 505 or 517? nothing beats the originals!

i agree that APC is a good choice too...but their unwashed denims are very stiff...

--- Original message by bikkle on Mar 14, 2005 06:29 AM

I agree can't beat old levi's from the 50's, 60's and early 70's

1960's Levi 501

1970's Levi 501

Lee 101z