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WTB J105-DS P46-DS P54-E P10-E/S SP29K-M all size M, black, ideally from within EU WTS GT-J2 Large $400 J1W-GTPL Small $1200 add shipping&fees if required, located in Germany pics, full info on https://www.grailed.com/rockyzz

The previous release (AW22?, cant remember) NG4s also have this adapter, not just this newest one

the shipping is same worldwide afaik, even DE to DE it's 25

WTS J1W-GTPL S Black $1250 GT-J2 L Black $600 P5TS-S M Black $450 (prices are G&S)  (+ shipping, located in CZ/GER, shipping anywhere) full photos available on https://www.grailed.com/rockyzz  WTB (also offering any of the above to trade aswell)  black, medium only S-J4TS J104-GTPL J105-DS LA10-PX P46-DS P54-E P10-E

WTS J1W-GTPL S Black $1300 GT-J2 L Black $800  P5TS-S S Black $450 P10-S S Black $630 (prices are G&S)  (+ shipping, located in CZ/GER, shipping anywhere) full photos available on https://www.grailed.com/rockyzz  WTT P10-S S Black fullpack for P10-E in Medium  WTB (also offering any of the above to trade aswell)  all black, medium only S-J4TS J104-GTPL J105-DS LA10-PX P46-DS P45(A)-E P10-E

WTS J1W-GTPL S Black $1300 GT-J2 L Black $800 P5TS-S S Black $450 (prices are G&S) (+ shipping, located in CZ/GER, shipping anywhere) full photos available on https://www.grailed.com/rockyzz  WTT P10-S S Black fullpack for P10-E in Medium WTB (also offering any of the above to trade aswell) all black, medium only S-J4TS J104-GTPL J105-DS LA10-PX P46-DS P45(A)-E P34-S P10-E

slight hanging as not even reaching your shoes/cropped or what? you're looking at an entirely wrong pant model if so, even sizing down to XS you will have a slight stack most likely

seconding this, you can size down but going tts is the way to go, the pants are quite boring otherwise, embrace the length unless you're pretty short

WTS J1W-GTPL S Black $1350 GT-J2 L Black $1000 P5TS-S S Black $460 GGG-J2-010 S Black $230 (prices are G&S) (+ shipping, located in CZ/GER, shipping anywhere) full photos available on https://www.grailed.com/rockyzz  WTT P10-S S Black fullpack for a Medium or alternatively P10-E in Medium WTB (also offering any of the above to trade aswell) all black, medium only S-J4TS J104-GTPL J105-DS P46-DS P45(A)-E P34-S P10-E 

imo you should have a Large in these, atleast as far as the "intended" sizing goes - this in medium works given the inseam is infact as long as it is but it would probably end up fitting better throughout if you went with a Large since it's the stacks on these that create the great fit these are supposed to have imo generally being 1.90m is already an XL territory as far as inseams in acr sizing goes so if you are too skinny to make the waist work it can be a pain can't really say much regarding the fit of the P23 as I'm not a fan of them in the first place but yeah they do seem a bit too short so you would be better off with an XL but since you've said you've already tied the L all the way - yeah maybe not a match for you but just as an addendum, the non-Q P23s afaik are slightly longer than the Q so you might want to look into that and compare if you really want P23s specifically

well then these pants simply aren't for you then, most of acronym is the other way (and infact completely opposite to the rest of the fashion industry where nothing is really ever made to fit anyone under 5'10 at the absolute least), you have just about 50 other pants across all of acr's output you can go for instead. at 5'11 myself which I wouldn't even consider particularly tall I already have to size up in most acr pants leaving the waist way too loose or needing it to be tightened up way too much etc so these are a godsent as far as DS pants that have been released so far go regardless 5'8 isn't too short for these and they are meant to be have SERIOUS stacks, I've seen a 5'8 guy try on a medium even and it looked amazing, you will have absolutely no problem with a small unless youre like 1/3 legs 2/3 torso or something

honestly thinking what? not all pants are sized meant to be sized purely on measurements nor are all measurements to be treated the same, the pants are styled on the ms models in the same size as any other and is the intended sizing, the fact you buy "according to measurements" and intend to size down is not invalid but you're simply doing exactly that - sizing down. there is nothing wrong with the sizing in itself, your problem is complete semantics