TheSeaward

Thank you for the feedback. Based off that, it seems I should size down to a 31 so that after stretching it should be a 33-34 inch waist and a 12-12.5 thigh. 

Were there any issues with shrinking?  I had heard that Oni's top block can be a little stubborn as it relates to shrinking to one-wash size

I'm strongly considering getting a pair of the 552 Natural Indigo GR, which use the 'secret' denim. I was hoping to get some feedback regarding shrinkage and stretching and sizing.

One of my best fitting denim is a pair of N&F WG in size 31, which has an actual waist around 33. So for these I was looking to get size 32 in raw, with a pre-soak waist of 34.5 (via denimio and BiG). Is it reasonable to expect that these will shrink to one-wash size, actual waist 32.5-33?

Also, with the 'secret' denim should I expect these to stretch out close to pre-soak measurements or do they surpass pre-soak?

For the first 'soak', I was planning on a hot soak for 1.5-2 hours and then a hot wash/cold rinse (no detergent) in the washing machine.

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HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz.

HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz.

This is a more accurate representation of my retired (hemmed too short) Gap Selvedge from 06/07, before they started doing redline.

International Concepts (Stockholm-Skinny Fit)- kind of a no-name brand, found this pair 2-3 years ago on sale at Macy's for $20-30. Since, around1-1.5 years of wear. Handful of soaks, 1 machine wash. Pic is in the gorgeous summer Texas sun.

HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz. My attempt at a dirty picture, helped my stepdad do door pulls in a new house, then a pickup football game. Dirtier than they appear.

HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz. My attempt at a dirty picture, helped my stepdad do door pulls in a new house, then a pickup football game. Dirtier than they appear.

HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz

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HC-SF-22 Big Slub-SlimGuy-18oz

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HC-SF-22 Naked and Famous Big Slub 18oz. (first wear).

HC-SF-22 Naked and Famous Big Slub 18oz. (first wear).

Criticism duly noted