Alan80

Sugar Cane 1947's (standard cut) are not "slimmer" unless worn sized down. And from my personal experience (47 and 66), I'd run out of room at the waist before the rest of the jean would fit slim. Going off of the jeans you've already worn, if you want a slim fit you'd want something like the SC2009.

Not washing isn't the key to good fading, dedicated daily wear is. And there's more to a nicely faded pair of jeans that just contrast, combs, and whiskers.

^ Furthermore, there is the 1947 Type II which is slightly slimmer than the original, but like Setterman said, far from slim fitting.

Nothing wrong with wanting some pre-washed denim, but "one-wash" just means that it's been washed once at the factory in an attempt to get rid of all the shrinkage. I say you go for the one-wash if you dont want to hassle with soaking the denim yourself. Wear and wash whenever you feel like it and see how they turn out. For what it's worth I washed and wore my 1947s whenever I felt like it and never really followed any "rules". After a few months and the first wash I just didn't care all that much and didn't want to turn wearing denim into a chore.

Thank you.That sounds quite encouraging for me to try raw denim once more. To be honest, I now learned that I always made the mistake of not soaking first. The main concern is the fit now. The SC2009 looks like it's what I want. I understand this is a slim fit, but not skinny, ie stretchy looking? I like the fit of the LVC 505s or APC New Standard as they are narrow but not skinny. I'm a skinny but older guy so anything that looks too fashionable or hipster-ish will look really sad and try-hard on me :-) I guess I will have to order a pair and see for myself.

I will also consider other brands like Samurai, Momotaro or Warehouse, but as this is the Sugar Cane thread, I guess you guys don't know which models are the fit I'm looking for?

Thank you

Hi guys, I'm currently looking to buy my first pair of Japanese denim "high end" jeans. I'm not a big breaking-in guy. I try to be, but after about 2-3 months I usually give up and wash my raw jeans (until now, I only owned Uniqlo, LVC 505s, and APC New Standards), so I have never reached a really good fade.

As a newbie, would it be better to go with washed jeans, like the Sugar Cane SC41947 "One Wash" or "Hard Wash" - what do you guys think of these? They seem to be the fit I'm looking for (slimmer) and I can't ruin them by premature washing. Or should I go for raw denim once more and try to keep up the non-washing regimen one more time...?

If raw, which Sugar Cane model would be a "1947 501" - type fit?

Thank you for your help

Hi there,

I'm currently looking for a nice, "premium" pair of Japanese denim. But I'm a newbie when it comes to Japanese brands and styles. The only one I own is a Uniqlo "Made in Japan" jeans which wasn't a bad deal for the price, but I'm looking for something more quality now. There's so many brands in Japan that I'm overwhelmed. What I'm looking for, roughly speaking:

- A slimmer fit, like the APC New Standards, LVC 1947 501, or even LVC 505

- Price range around 20.000-25.000 JPY

Now, I'll be honest and put out here that I'm not a big "breaking in" guy. What happened with my APCs is that after about 2 months of almost daily wear, I couldn't take the smell and washed them. They aren't ruined, but the fades are of course quite boring due to the premature washing.

But as I see, there's also washed options, like the "One Wash" or "Hard Wash" options from Sugar Cane - what do you guys think about those? They seem to get good reviews, but I guess for the best fades, I have to go raw, right?

Thanks for your help!

Alan