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Thank you!

Can anyone with a pair of Viper001's tell me how much they stretched (or didn't) specifically in the thighs? I know they are advertised to stretch .5-1 full size in general (though there's a big difference for me between the two!), but I'm not worried about waistband stretch. When I tried on my true size, they sit a solid inch too low because that's as high as my thighs would let them go. I've had nudies balloon in the thighs 2" and S&S which didn't budge one bit, so not sure what to expect.

Does anyone have some suggestions for something cut like the APC PS but with a lower rise? The fit is great, but the rise is annoying. Two inches lower would be perfect. I had a pair of S&S (Naomi, I think? Bought many years ago when they were making a run of organic/natural indigo) and the fit on these was even better than the PS (at least when I was standing still), but the rise was so low I had to stop wearing them. Railcar's look great, but after getting burned on the S&S, I'm wary of anything I can't try on first.

Budget is thin, but I'm open to stretching it for the perfect pair.