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Do you have measurements for the Ervell brown wool pants? Thanks!

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i fucking hate the color navy. go to tres bien, click new arrivals, navy... navy..... navy. its not the new black, its the wack, half assed black.

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This is a GORGEOUS Jil Sander SS12 shirt from Tres Bien Shop. It is light grey with a hidden placket. It's a really nice material and the shirt looks so smart and elegant. I really hate to have to sell this.

BRAND NEW WITH TAGS. NEVER ONCE WORN. Only tried on. Fits perfect.

I need some money so, unfortunately, I'll have to sell it. It is slim and beautiful. It is a size SMALL (46).

"Slim Fit Cotton Shirt in grey from the Jil Sander S/S12 collection. A classic Jil Sander piece: simple, elegant and super comfortable. Wear it with a black suit or a pair of jeans. Features a hidden placket, button cuffs and pointed collar. Fits true to size."

$200 shipped. Retails $260.

Length (collar to bottom hem) 31 in

Pit to Pit: 19 in

Sleeve (pit to cuff) 21

I find it hard to believe that if any of us saw them walking down the street, we would say to ourselves "they look terrible."

I doubt that they would even pop up on radar.

Please post more pathetic gender-mutilation victims to belittle. Thanks.

I think that, along with Sawyer, I generally loath everything that bluespring posts.

I told my artist that I wanted a city in ruins.

LOLOLOLI'DLIKETOSEETHAT!

Keep editing the post until you've got it just right. I'll be hanging out in my handmade scarf until then.

So basically you're a nasty, condescending little forum warrior about everything?

I'm still waiting. These tats you've posted certainly aren't not dumb. OOPS! FORGOT I WASN'T ALLOWED TO EDIT.

A) A big deal wasn't made. No need to get butthurt. We can keep this friendly.

B ) Tattoos aren't art unless you're willing to call everything art, and then you have to get one of these nauseating bumperstickers that old white and jewish democrats stick on the back of their prius:

C) If banality and commonality are our most honest reflections of the human condition, then fine. Maybe you're right: we're all idiots and the exceptional is not a representation of the human experience. However, we live in a very wealthy society that doesn't limit our expressive desires through many material, social, or technical constraints. Sure, tattoos are a folk-art, but the train stops there. Your handmade scarf isn't art. Your argument pretty much renders tattoo-whatever as a mainstream culture and not the subculture its subscribers like to think that it is. These people, and I've had the horror of knowing many, many, many of them, almost universally consider tattoos high art. It's almost like knowing that comic books really aren't art, only the rare exception is art. From that point, they're no longer a reflection of comic culture, but the human experience. Even tattoos with theatrical "deeply personal meanings" like portraits of dead kids and shit - that's not art. Sorry. That's ego. We need to be more snobby than this to keep us from returning to the caves.

Tattoos are decorative to those who commission them. They're a process-based craft to those who respond to that request.

This whole rant is great.

Don’t be so butthurt.

Are you trying to intellectualize the reason that you have poorly done tattoos?

Flip this around, turn it upside down, and you have a valid comprehension of my statement. So, no, I'm not trying to intellectually justify my [very stupid] tattoos. I'm trying to express that I don't feel that tattoos are very intellectual at all. I'm making it a point that justifying a tattoo as something sacred or deeply personal is like putting on a mask and then telling people that you're letting it all hang out. Also, if you scoff at a more analytical approach to subject matter, you're basically stating that the subject matter is unworthy of detailed criticism, thus pretentious. Do you consider tattoos unworthy of that type of analysis? I do, so I suppose you did note a hypocrisy.

Is an art form truly defined by whether it's a true and honest reflection of the human condition - and if in fact people get tattoo's for superficial reasons, as a reflection of who they think or wish they were - as you suggest, wouldn't a tattoo be a very explicit representation of the human condition?

No, its a representation of the egotistical denial systems that keep us from truly reflecting upon our experiences in exchange for comfort. Self reflection is often painful. If more people were honest about tattoos, we would see feminists with penis envy tattoos and creationists with tattoos of finches. We don't, though. We see them with tattoos that represent their egotistical political beliefs which in turn function as an egotistical representation of comfort-based denial. While common, they cloud our experience instead of defining it. It's like how more people watch the Kardiashians and other fantasy-based escapist nonsense than read the news.

No need to shy away or get nasty about the subject matter. This is the tattoo thread. Do the thread a favor: keep this respectful and post some pictures of tattoos you consider so excellent within a cultural norm that, as a representation of that culture, we can call art - not craft. I'm very interested to see and would love to change my mind here. Seriously, prove that they exist. I'd love to see them.

Let's not forget that we got to this point by agreeing that people asking about the meanings of our tattoos, and insisting that theirs have deeper meanings, irks the living crap out of us.

Tattoos are not art. This does not necessarily mean that the methods and techniques of tattooing or their common subject matter can’t be used conceptually within an artistic work, but anything can be used in that way.

And a lot of entertainers who lip sync call themselves recording artists.

I'm going to come out and say it:

I hate when people think that tattoo's are an art form. They are not, in any way, an honest and reflective expression of the human condition. Tattoos are superficial ways of projecting a desired perception of oneself permanently onto your body. It's a means of making yourself feel cooler than you are. Period. The cultural reasons and perceptions for different forms of tattooing all over the world are universally the same. The reason was and still is posturing.

I didn't get mine for any other reason. The people who create tattoos are nothing more than hobbyists. It's sad that there are subcultures dedicated to creating some kind of religious zealotry around the merits of the tattoo. There is no deep meaning other than identity crisis with which we can discuss tattoos, so when people try to ask me about the meaning behind my own, I say what many of you say: "I just thought that it would make me look cooler." Whever I turn on the television and see these fart-bloated idiots on "NY Ink" or that one retarded bimbo, I refuse to say her name, I just want to gag on some loaf. These people are not worthy of the public arena.

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This is what happens when you combine a massive trust fund with parents who loved too much: A spoiled art student with too much money, an identity crisis, and so entitled that they still feel the need to act out for attention with uninspired conceptual costume play.

Otho on the left is so anti-sexual that he's actually appetite suppressing.

The democrat on the right is the very reason that a pizza with everything tastes like shit.

got into an argument with a girl who's bf is a "tattoo artist" she told me traditional tattoos are the mcdonalds of tattooing. i slapped a bitch n dropped knowledge. then after losing the argument attempted to attack me personally... fucking chicks these days whose bf owns a machine n they suddenly know everything...

Worst conversation ever.

Tattoos just aren't serious enough to justify this type of conversation. When people try to talk about this shit to me as if tattoos are an honest philosophical reflection of the self, I laugh in their face. I laugh twice as hard when people attempt to imply that there is a stylistic right and wrong regarding "authenticity." Yes, my tattoos are whack enough to have inspired people to talk about tattoos to me. They then show me their detailed sleeve or massive body piece, thinking that I'll be wowed or something and open my mind to "real tats!". It is about as interesting to me as wallpaper. Women are the worst when it comes to this. Everything is a spiritual identity crisis with women.

My next tat is going to be Owen Hart with angel wings.

FUCK life.

actual pain was giving away free flash tattoos at today's sample sale here in seattle.

More of the same/similar PLEASE.

Just more costume play.

something about low-rise jeans and suspenders...

Since when did dagos decide that applying their confused patchwork quilt of bad taste to bootboy aesthetics - with a touch of Kenneth Cole Reaction and Aldo boots - was an okay thing to do? Especially when you're built like Robert Mitchum..? This is some kind of mall chain emulation and general misunderstanding of the phony heritage fads. Mainstream hangover.

^the du is fine, the girl on the other hand is wearing an extremely wrinkled shirt untucked with a one buttoned tiny cardigan and slim fitting short jacket. it looks stupid and it screams im wearing tb cardigan and shirt. damn that collar too.

Congrats, You've made a colossal gas giant out of a toddler fart. Is this really the worst you could find today? Just petty.

Stop junking up superfashion with women's lines. This is superfuture, not the fashion spot. Active male fashion forums are rare enough as it is.

Solovair "Hawkins" boot: