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I just bought my brother a pair of Nudie SJ Embo Ecru. He's a 32 in APC NS so I figured a 33 in the SJEE would fit him, but they're pretty tight around his thigh and he can button up the waist but has a hard time with the zipper.

How much will the SJEE stretch over time? Is it worth the attempt or no?

I ask because it was bought at an outlet for about 45.00 NWT and there are no other sizes!

Size down 3 on the skinny girls. True waist 30 then get a 27. Got a pair on plndr TTS since I thought they would be sized like the skinny guys. Nope, Chuck Testa.

Thanks for the advice! After some research, it seems that the skinny girls were discontinued and replaced by the leggy girls? I guess, my question is with how light they women's denim is, do they stretch a whole lot?

My girlfriend's a tagged 26, true waist is about a 28. I'm assuming a 25 would fit best.

If any ladies (or gentlemen) know how to size on the N&F Skinny Girls, I’d appreciate it! Been looking to get a pair for my girlfriend, but I wasn't sure if I should stay TTS, size down 1? 2?

I’ve been on a mission to find some Skinny Girls for my girlfriend for Christmas, but I’m having the hardest time finding retailers for the women’s line. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I’d greatly appreciate it!

Also, if any ladies (or gentlemen) know how to size on the Skinny Girls and could help me out (stay TTS? size down 1? 2?), I’d appreciate it even more!

Excerpt from indigoshrimp blog :P

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Most artisan denim makers, though, meant for their jeans to be soaked before wear – the old Levi’s ‘Shrink-to-fit’ concept. Many advantages exist in soaking your jeans before you wear them, including (but not limited to): better fit, increased fabric density & strength, corrected stitch tension to fabric pull balance, removal of chemical coatings used during the manufacturing process, and removal of excess indigo (most companies tend to over-dye) so your furniture won’t be ruined. Rest assured, well-dyed Japanese denim will not suffer from excessive indigo loss – most makers actually recommend washing their denim once every month or so, to prevent bacteria & grit degradation of the denim, thus prolonging the life of the jeans (preventing crotch blow-outs, butt rips, etc).

Furthermore, what you’ll find is that vintage denim hobbyists tend to do it the old fashioned way too: shrink-to-fit (soaking or washing) before wearing them & washing them more regularly (Samurai Jeans recommends monthly wash, Sugar Cane recommends quarterly wash). In this way, you will get more authentic vintage ageing, i.e. the creases & ridges will form on the different seams, the twist in the legs will become apparent, the denim will be stronger and therefore allow longer wear, the fading will become less contrasting and more vertical, achieveing more ‘hue’, etc. This is my preferred method! I would soak before wearing even for sanforised denim, because they do shrink as well, just not as much as unsanforised denim.

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soaking in NO WAY affects the fading of your jeans...ever heard of unsanforized denim? a la almost every high end Japanese denim brand...and the original Levi's jeans that everyone is actually basing their jeans on? you need to soak those initially to get the shrinkage out, and it not only makes the denim healthier, it tightens the weave, makes them really crispy and stiff, and there is no problem with fading at all, personally i feel the starch negatively affects the jeans, making them much harder to fade due to the smoothness of the denim, but that's just my personal opinion speaking from experience. now you are right, you don't need to soak your N&F at all, but some may want to for the reasons i listed above.

people need to understand that water isn't the enemy of raw denim, it helps it along if anything, and the thought of not washing your jeans ever because it will hurt your combs is ridiculous. just wear your jeans, do what you need to do, and they will end up coming out amazing no matter how you take care of them. hard wear always trumps "care" anyway.

Thanks for the advice guys, I definitely appreciate it.

Which soak would you guys recommend? Hot? Warm? Cold?

sheen and stiffness is definitely gone, probably why they fit and feel softer.

sheen is part of the chemicals and process they use in manufacturing.

stiffness is caused by starch.

you can re-starch for the stiffness, but the sheen is gone.

unless you have some formaldehyde you can dip the jeans into.

I heard starch affects the strength of the fabric so I wouldn't use too much.

I definitely wouldn't starch it myself. My main concern would be the fading. I own a pair of APC Petit Standards that I've rocked hard for almost a year now and they're taking forever to fade since I had a few mishaps that required soaking. 2 soaks total and they've started fading slowly. Don't get me wrong, the honeycombs and whiskers are great but i just don't want to have to wait another 1-2 years to see any fading progress if I soak these elephant bad boys.

tough to say with the elephants as it's a heavyweight. my 24oz stretched about 1" though, so I would say definitely.

i pre-soaked against advice and I'm much happier with the fit, it's better overall around the butt, thighs and the fades will set into the proper places.

Thanks for the input man. When it comes to stretching, my main concern is that the butt and thighs will get too big. Did the soak soften the jeans and cause it to lose it's sheen at all? I like the sheen and stiffness of the starch, haha.

I just got my pair of Weird Guys in the Elephant denim in a 28. I have to say, they're definitely stiff! The waist is tight, and I can manage to button all of them (uncomfortably) if I suck it up. Ordered a pair of the Skinny Guys in a 28 to compare the two as well, but couldn't fit those past my knees.

My question is, do you guys think these will stretch a lot? And should I presoak just to get the shrinkage out of the way before stretching them out?

Can anyone help a brother out?

I've been searching for some weird guy elephants in a 28/29 like crazy! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I'm a 28 in New Standards and am a fairly small person (5'4" 135-140lbs average body).

I found some petite standards in 29s for real cheap.

Question: (I haven't been able to try on any Petite NS yet) Would I be ok if I sized up one for the petites (29) if i'm a 28 for NS? Or would they be too big and fit nothing like the New Standards?

buy true to size or size down one, the waist stretches a lot. i love my pair of uniqlo, i say buy them

Thanks for the advice!

Do you know how they fit compared to APC NS? Tighter? Looser? Same? I'm just trying to gauge it because i can't return them! They are described as a slim straight fit.

Sorry, I'm new to SuFu and couldn't find the Uniqlo or APC threads--still trying to figure this whole thing out!

I found a pair of Uniqlo Kaihara Denim on Ebay for about 75.00. My question is, I've never tried on Uniqlos but have heard some good and bad things about them. I am usually a 28 in the APC New Standards and was wondering how these Uniqlos fit in comparison?

I asked the seller which fit the Uniqlos were but he wasn't able to tell me even though they still have tags and he did send me numerous pictures so i doubt they're fake. They're described as Kaihara denim (which is supposed to be extremely good quality right?) and a slim fit.

Are they slimmer than New Standards (similar to New Cures)? Same?

Should i size down 1 or 2? Are they sanforized?

ANY HELP would do! Please answer any questions you can, it'd be awesome!

Thanks!