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The waste of 201's from 2007 does not shrink. I got a pair size w 34. After several hot washes the pair measures now 34.5!

There are two factors: shrinkage and real size compared to tagged size. Real size of 47's raw is somewhat smaller than tagged size; real size of this seasons 44's is considerably larger than tagged size. In addition 47's shrink more than 44's. Buy 47's oversized, 44's undersized.

Cultizm says on their website that the width of the 1944 raw is 0.5 to 1'' larger than tagged. Has anybody experience with the sizing of the new collection? My 1955's are 36 width - I wonder whether I should get the 1944's in 34 width.

i know what you mean..just started washing and working on my new 33's in a tagged 36 waist...they are big big big.....definately at least an inch bigger in the wasit then standard STF tagged 36 or even my new eco 501 big E organics

i hope i can shrink them up...others have posted in may take up to 10 wash dry cycles to finalize sizing..not sure about that buy ill be trying using the samuari detergent to avoid color loss

yeah. but with the 201's it's even worse. my new 201's tagged 36 waist are even bigger (after soak) than my 33' tagged 38 waist!

Just got a pair of this seasons 201's. Very nice and excellent material. But they come really big. Tagged 36x36 they are closer to 37x37. After several hours of hot soak the inseam is still 35.4.

My 555 1933s are looser before the soak than these fall 06 55s. My 555 33 are fuller than the 03 ones I had. All with the samed tagged waist. The 33s 10 oz wil lstretch back more easily that the heavier 55s.

thank's airfrogusmc. I would then assume that the 1933s which are now sold by cultizm are not much losser than the 06 55s.

can anybody tell whether the lvc 1933 501 (after soak) is more baggy than the 1955 501 (after soak)?