thegashman

Bit late now, but..shoulda bought some Sugar Canes.

I've been told they smell swee-eee-eet

they spit on the floor ?

makes me wonder if they are running slave labor for the " AFRICAN cotton " now .

you guys dont see the science behind this logic ey ?

Ask um is it hand picked zimbabwe cotton ... bet they say yea ..

...just as long as they don't say, "yes masser"...:eek:

denim looks thick n TOUGH though nonetheless .. is that woven denim tweed ?

How the hell should I know - I'm a noob!!

OK, sinners, PRPS came back to me after I posted them some full shots and they were hating the weak wash and phoney distressing. Plus the 3 poppers instead of 2 were making them spit on the workshop floor, for real they were p*ssed!

Communication with the seller has been real civil throughout this little situation and he's said he's gonna give a refund once he get's the mail from PRPS\Indigofera confirming their fake-ass status.

"I love all y'all mutha f*ckas"

Hey, he got off lightly!

Wow, big response. OK:

Minya - thanks for the response. I did a lot of trawling through the forums and was still really unsure, which is why I thought of taking loads of pics, getting opinions and then leaving that as a reference for any other unlucky souls in the same position as myself. I'm big on altruism!

Numero_uno_3xl - you didn't sound like "a dick" (a wiener maybe ), but I knew I was in for a grilling, which is why I did a lot of Googling and thinking before I posted. Thanks for your reply though, ALL comments were gratefully received and you've given me my biggest tip so far, "molding your jeans to be YOUR jeans from raw state". That really struck a chord wth me, so thanks

I did state that, "I think I've been a trifle rash....", but to answer your question, my lightbulb went off when I actually saw and felt them. They had the same look and feel as any cheap pair of £10 ($20) jeans you'd get from the market. Cheap looking denim, details and stitching and certainly not something I woud imagine shelling out £289 for, which is what they were advertised as originally costing the seller.

Thanks also to ikidomari and derdankhund and everyone else.I just wanted to state that I'm also NOT a "just for the label" man. I'd read about PRPS on www.beinghunted.com a while back and came across them on eBay last month. It was only after all the Googling post-purchase that I found out more about all the hassle with prevalent fakes and how they're Brad Pitt's favourite jeans (errr, who cares?!).

Finally, I did speak with PRPS distributors, Indigofera. They asked me what P style number was on the inside tag. I said the only number on that tag was 100964. She laughed and said, "No that's not a PRPS number. It should be P29 xxxx, or P30 xxxx etc". This denotes the season and style of the jeans. For example, it is shown on the PRPS pages at Newton Store website - eg http://newton-store.com/?pid=284439 at the bottom it saysStyle No.P29P01B

With the other info about my jeans having 3 waist poppers instead of 2, dodgy leather patch, incorrect positioning of the purple tage etc, this ties in with what I'd heard about a loophole in the trademark laws that allows manufacturers to produce copies as long as there are 7 points of difference. I am a bit vague on this as it is hearsay, so shoot me down if I'm totally wrong.

So far we have:

1. Inside tag has no P number

2. 3 waist poppers instead of 2

3. Pleather patch (PRPS also said they stopped using the "rising sun" design 18 months ago)

4. Purple tag under instead of on pocket

5. Rivets are different

6. Possible different camo pocket bag design (?)

Indigofera asked for some full length shots of the jeans to get an idea of the quality of the wash and the tone of the fabric. I'll post those in the same folder as my original photos later today and update you again.

Thanks again everyone - great site! Cheers, Jason

Hi

Very new to the "superdenim" scene and I think I've been a trifle rash and naive and purchased some fake PRPS from ......you guessed it, eBay. The seller is an individual with 100% feedback, no other items for sale and assured me that they were genuine. However, when they arrived I was pretty shocked. If this is high quality denim then I'm sticking with my Wranglers (joke!!)

I know it's rude an' all on our first date, but would any of you real indigo-gurus be able to spare 5 minutes to take a look at my pics and let me know what you think?

http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l317/thegashman/PRPS/

I've also spoken to Laura at Indigofera (PRPS European distribution) who kindly offered to take a look also. I've asked them for some advice on writing an eBay guide warning of the pitfalls of buying PRPS so I can help others avoid the same mistake (that's assuming that there are other gullible people out there like me).

Thanks very much for your time, Jason