Will

post better picture man what size are those?

I've tried to capture the difference in a photo, but my camera isn't up to the task. They're a 33, lost a bit of weight a while back so my older jeans are a bit big for me now.

I'm beginning to doubt my sanity now , but even my girlfriend admitted they where different from my old ones. Regardless, I don't like them as much.

My pair of 1003XX (from this spring) feel more coarse than what I'm remember my prior pairs of Warehouse feeling.  Natural fiber and variation from batch to batch.  Give 'em a couple washes and wear 'em, they'll be fine.  

I've got a pair of the 1003xx on their way to me if they ever get out of customs. Hopefully they'll be more to my liking.

its just in your head man.

Nope, from a distance they almost look like broken twill. I've go three other pairs of Warehouse and these just don't feel or look the same. It's very hard to capture in a picture. Like I said could be a one off duff pair, I've had it before with a pair of LVC 47's which almost felt like plastic with a really weird feel to the weave.

I've given them a wash, but no real change. Heres a photo which attempts to illustrate the difference, but its hard to capture accurately. New 'raw' pair on the left, one wash on the right.

I picked up some of the 800s from Bureau. I was disappointed by them, something is not right with the denim in comparison to the one wash pair I have or my 1000xxs. The weft is much greyer and the texture is unusually hard and rough to the point of being uncomfortable in comparison to my other pairs of Warehouse. They also have an odd smell, a bit like wet nappies or something. Its hard to know whether I've been unlucky and got a duff pair, there are certainly more flaws in the weave than I've seen on any denim I've owned before. Would some kind of sanforization process explain it? 

Levi experts...help please.

Anyone know why the '37 LVCs have a four button fly instead of a five? Is this historically accurate? If so, were the 501s from 1937 the only model to have four buttons?

Thanks

I found some pictures:

1922 vintage

Another pair from around 1922

and these from 1936

So it appears to be accurate, it looks to me like the 1922's only have three buttons.

after reading through this thread i am still slightly confused...

I am a 32 x 34 in a regular 501XX STF. I'd say it's a perfect fit. If I would like to see the same amount of "comfort" with 1947, should I go for 33? I also wear 31 in APC NS, and it's not very slim.

and also, I am planning to get the Made in Japan 1947. Will there be a significant difference in quality or sizing?

and lastly, where can I get a pair of Levi's 501 1947 in Toronto? or perhaps in Canada online?

I have both the U.S and Japan made LVC 47's. In my experience the Japanese denim is different from the U.S denim, It's a much looser weave and feels a touch heavier with a rougher texture. As for shrinkage the Japanese denim seems to contract the full 2" whereas the U.S made 47's seem to vary from season to season, the 2008's seem to only shrink an inch in the waist.

Personally I think the detailing is better on the Japanese 47's, but prefer the denim on the U.S version.

How would those Alden Indy's do in wintertime? I mean snow and all that shit? I'm somehow obsessed now. I had a flu last weekend and watched the Indiana Jones trilogy...

If you keep you keep them clean they'll be fine, the only thing to watch out for is salt which isn't good for leather.

They're not doing the 44's this season, but the 55's they're doing are really nice. Not quite as dark as the 47's but still an excellent shade of indigo with lemon pocket stiching. The only thing missing is the off-set belt loop..

If you want more accurate detailing you could try the LVC Japan, but to be honest I've been a bit dissapointed in the denim on their 47's and 44's. Not tried their 55's yet.

Although this is just a guess, if you look at the 1944 or 1955 Levi's they both have a much fuller leg than the LVC 47's so I'd assume the Sugar Canes are more typical. I'm not sure why the LVC 47's are cut so slim in comparison.

seems there are more and more SUPERTRADS here.....

Supertrads is a good word for it. Its just the difference between style and fashion, at some point you've got to find a way to accept getting older gracefully. I love the whole Dior Homme skinny jeans thing but can't pull it off anymore, so understated classics is the way forward. Still sets you apart from the mainstream and speaks a coded language that those in the know appreciate.

Which of the Levis denim jacket repros have the longer body with a fuller cut....If any?

talking generous fit, but not FUBU style

or Lee for that matter. Dont want a sack-cloth jacket though

The Types 1 and 2 are a pretty similar boxy cut, although theoretically the Type 1 should be slightly shorter with fuller sleeves.The Type 3 60's jackets are very trim. They should all end around the belt line. One thing to watch for is the early Valencia made Type 2's have extremely narrow armholes which for me at least meant sizing up and consequently ruining the intended fit of the jacket.

Will and I like the suspender buttons and the lighter weight denim on some of the earlier models also the blue/green line stuff on the 20s 201s is really special. And by the way I really like the 33s I scored from you. VERY NICE...

Agreed, those jeans are very nice, but a bit harder to wear for the average person. The sort of thing they should keep doing as well researched special editions.

I think the thing they need do is decide on which jeans to reproduce based on significant changes in the evolution of the brand. The one's I listed cover most bases, the 37's for the looser cut, crotch rivet and cinch, 44's because they were the first to lose these features, 47 because they were the point at which the classic 501 became fully evolved, 55's for the paper patch and 66's for the slim fit which represented the move away from work wear and into fashion.

I'd just like to see a basic range that included 37's, 44's, 47's, 55's and 66's along with the Type 1-3 jackets. The occassional special edition would be nice, they never seem to have done a mid 50's jean with the offset belt loop and a leather patch. If they could decide on a pattern for a first 501 you could throw that into the mix too. That'd satisfy most aspects of their repeat buying core market and they could then do select reproductions of vintage used jeans from their archives on a seasonal basis for the collectors and to respond to current trends in the marketplace.

LVC seem to be vague about details when it suits them....

It's really frustrating. They seem to be able to spend the time and effort to package a pair of jeans in a tin and charge £295 for them, yet miss basic details that even the untrained eye can pick up on.

They should take a leaf out of Levi's Japan's book and establish a basic range that doesn't vary from season to season, that way there would be none of the inconsistencies in fit and finish from season to season. The purists would be happy and LVC could release limited edition pre-distressed versions for the fashion market to their heart's content.

The way jeans fit seems to be something to do with your waist to hip ratio. When I was at college I wore a 32", as I've got older my waist has gone up to a 34" but the rest of my proportions remain the same. The same style jeans now look baggier on me even though they fit me on the waist.

Interestingly if you see period photos from the 1930's the jeans look quite fitted, but repros of jeans from the same period come up loose on a modern frame. I think this is because people's proprtions have changed over time. Modern physiques have a much bigger waist in comparison to those that grew up during the depression.

Dave, or any other Redwing owner (is that 1905 model?), how heavy is that boot? I don't like too heavy boots with thick soles but that shoe looks nice and I'm in need of some winter shoes...

Damn they don't sell those Gokey boots anywhere near europe...

The 1905/Anniversary boots are a bit heavier than the regular Redwings. I find the standard Redwings really comfortable, the sole cushions well and you don't notice the weight.

I think the shades of indigo have to match, nothing looks worse than a light jacket and dark jeans or vice-versa. Maybe its a matter of context, in the U.S you look like a hick, in the U.K you still look like a hick but in a good way. It also helps if your jacket and jeans are vintage style, either something from the depression era or the 50's. I always think Martin Sheen's Type 2/501 outfit looks pretty good in Badlands.

Sugarcane are on page 186

she's a keeper!

washed after 5 or 6 wears?

whaaaaaat?!!!

they really that blue?

If anything they're a bit darker, bear in mind this isn't everyday wear. At the moment she's working on a pair of Nudie Super Slim Kims with J-Brands in rotation.

here's some pics of the 213 i picked up 5 or 6 (can't remember) years ago at selvedge (when it still existed) in new york. originally it was unwashed.

hope the pics come out o.k. first time i've tried uploading here so forgive me if they're ropey.

Thanks for the pictures.You can still tell that the jacket looks excellent, and I'm guessing fairly rare. The denim Levis used on the 201's was something special.

My girlfriend's APC hipsters. Probably 5 or 6 years old , washed after every five or so wears. They haven't turned out badly considering..

I don't have much that's very unusual really, mostly 47's and 55's.

These are quite interesting though, early Japanese repros. Not sure what they're supposed to be or how accurate they are, tagged as 702s though.

Will, the color on those 1800s LVCs are amazing. How much did you get those for?

I can't remember. I think they were from the first ever season that LVC did.

so you have a pair of these, and you also own 213 and 506 jackets. what else are you hiding?

A couple of type 2 jackets that I stupidly bought too big, a few pairs of 47's and 55's some of the old 201's with the leather patch and a pair of 33's. I used to panic buy LVCs having lived through the 80's selvedge drought. I still remember trying to buy a new pair of 501's and finding the selvedge and black bar tacks gone. Dark days...

LVC fall 06 1897 blanket lined pleated blouse. Also looking around for a raw type II either from LVC or a Japanese repro company...

LVC Japan have just re-issued the Types 1, 2 and 3 raw for this season. I've got a Type 2 on the way, should arrive next week hopefully. It'll be interesting to compare it to the older Valencia Street version.