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i think Paul T's mentioned that Levi's will not disclose the corresponding locations to their number codes, company secret or something...or i might have remembered wrongly.

What's Levi's problem. If they don't want people to know about their products, why do they go to the trouble of stamping numbers on ths backs of the rivets. And with people trashing Levi's left and right, you would think that they would actually try to INFORM people who actually give a crap about their decling products.

I think 555 is the Levi's code for SF Valencia Street. I have some old 501s with a nice slubby Cohn Mills looking denim that have 553 stamped on the back of the top rivit. Also the inner tag has 553 coding. Does anyone know what factory this might be. It is USA.

The buttons create distinctly spaced horizontal stress lines at the botton points, which zippers can't do as well. With wear, these stress lines become whiskers.

Has anyone cracked the code on the inner tag of the 501s. I guess they mean something to Levi Strauss company people, like maybe the date of munufacture, the finish and the place and the model (that, I have figured out). I've read the posts here, and while some of the numbers have been figured out (eg, 555 means SF), the rest is pretty mysterious to me. Anyone ever figure this out or can point me to it?

Why so little creasing? Don't u ever sit down?

Don't wash them at all.

just incase you still wanted a picture. here is a pic of my 936 slimfit that i got today

Do u like them full? I find they seem to run smaller in the waist than Levis, meaning they can be a little baggy. But yours look real nice.

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but really thou, i shower with it on, but i'm not sure how long ou osak them.

About 20 minutes

You can wash raw denim like any other denim, you just wont get the distressing like you would if you wore them without washing for a while. You will still have a nice, sturdy pair of jeans, the color will just be more uniform and fade all over with time and washing. So if you want a lot whiskers and honeycombs and wallet fade then you are better off not washing often. If you just want nice, quality jeans, then you can wash whenever you want. You will still get the fading, but it wont be as contrasted, depending on how often you wash them.

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The contrast has less to do with washing than with stiffness. There's more contrast when new jeans becuase new stiff jeans abrade more on the whiskers ridges. If you starch them after washing, they will whisker just as well washed or otherwise. In fact, since washing removes the abraded indigo, there may be more contrast after regular washing..

i love the light sheen that brand new dry denim has, and im wondering what produces that look

and more importantly if theres any way to recreate it?

Ironing after starching brings back a little, but just a little.

My local STF seller has STFs in my size made in Dominican Republic, Mexico, and Columbia, is there any reason to pick one over the other?

DR is tighter than colombia in my experience/

Photos from The Wild One 1953

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1265/Mptv/1265/5689_0015.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0047677

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1316/Mptv/1316/0007_1045.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0047677

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What he was wearing by the time he departed us....48X32 STFat

I would never pay that much. $300+++???. Jeez....

The mid-80s 501s, like the orange tab 505s of the era, are very trim in the thigh and seat compared to todays 501s..

Use the search button LOL.

How to keep jeans rigid http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=6563

Washing jeans in a machine http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=6525

How to wash jeans and prevent fading http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=6519

Dry cleaning or handwashing your jeans http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=6242

Washing your jeans using vegetable soap http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=5907

Washing your jeans in seawater http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=5929

Washing oil stains in denim http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=4354

Chlorine from a pool & denim http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=3646

Washing shrink to fit denim http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=4476

More on shrinkage http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=1660

Cleaning candle wax off denim http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=5958

Removing chewing gum from jeans http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=11410

There's a lot more, use the search button

(edit... to keep everything in the one place other gold threads are here)

denim 101 http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=4612

denim porn links http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=8389

making a pair of jeans-photo essay http://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=8363

apc&nudie picshttp://superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=5533

the big selvedge denim threadhttp://www.superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=817&start=1

chainstitching talk <a href="http://www.superfuture.com/city/supertalk/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=2574 " target="_blank">http://www.superfuture.com/city/supert

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to get this board rolling, i'm suggesting a thread where people can educate people and cut down on the 'use the search button' comments. how about one about dry denim. why you wear it, why you like it, how to care for it, how you care for it, how to wash it without losing color, what to request from the dry cleaner/dry cleaning tips, soaking it, shrinkage, etc....

The links go to the home page. Please check it. Thanks

"By the way... has anyone noticed whether or not the quality of the new 501 stfs depends on which store you buy them at?"

Not the store as such, but the country of origen does. Dominican Republic STFs have a shorter rise and are better to me than Mexico or Colombia. I never see USA made anymore, sadly.

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perfect picture of slubby, cheapm

U see more white threads, kind of uneven popping thru.

At the thrift stores here, the only jeans I ever see are Old Navy crap. Goodwill, Salvation army people skim off anything decent b4 it ever hits the floor.

Jeans nice, the belt --- no.

514 definitely. "Jagged" finish is not stretch. The 512 is slim tapered, but regular rise. I like them though.

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I was lookin at the mwz's yesterday online and saw them dirt cheap... I dont know how they fit though... the rise looked REALLY high in the picture and I'm not tryin to look like Buster Bluth... any insight from the people who own them?

--- Original message by Number One Gmo on Jun 6, 2006 07:11 AM

I love the 13MWZ. But it is pretty different from any Levi's products including the 501. Think dressy cowboy. They fit more like trousers, with a high-rise, fairly full across the front, seat and thighs. Although fairly full, the seat looks more snug than it actually is. While not a boot cut, they have a straight leg that is wide enough to fit over boots. The denim on the rigid 13MWZ is lighter in color and more blue and less indigo Levi's. Also, it shrinks about 3% as opposed to 10% for the 501. If you want something a little snappier, try the slim fit 936 cowboy cut, which fits a bit like the old orange tab 505 Levi's.

I'm pretty sure that what you are describing is just the stiffness of the new denim. Once you start getting whiskering and abrasion that means the fibers are breaking down (in a good way), which will allow the jeans to drape better and become more formfitting.

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I just recently purchased some Made in the USA stf's and the denim is fuzzier than any of the currnet international made ones. Does anyone know if this is normal ? and will these wear differently than the newer ones? Besides that, I think the fit in the seat is better than the newer ones.

--- Original message by rc on Jun 1, 2006 05:35 PM

That has been my experience with made in the USA Levi's of all types. The denim was fuzzier and slubby, particularly after a little wear. Clearly, they must have been using a different source for the denim in their U.S. manufacturing. Just how it was different is not as clear. I have read some posts that say it was ring spun denim, but I have my doubts, as it is my understanding that Levi's Strauss stopped using ring spun denim well before it moved production out of the United States. It's a shame really, because I have a couple of really nice pairs of orange tab 505s that use the kind of denim you're referring to and I really like them.