aaronaps

don't like em. in fact, i ordered them, returned them, and bought a sandwhich. larger than regular skinners in every dimension, and super light-weight denim - i have t-shirts with more fabric. poo on levi's

Ok, cool. I'l also check out Octane to see what they have. Thanks all.

I'm not a cowboy, I just play one on the internet... but those wranglers don't look too bad, now that I think about it - just pull off the label and...tada!

sneakeraddict: Thanks. Do you know the measure of the rise? Those don't appear to be low enough. Thanks again.

...and while I'm there, I'll pick you up one of these fine shirts!

http://www.builtbywendy.com/onlineshop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16393&category_id=259

-Peace, love, and guy on guy in the lady's room love...

I have never seen or heard of most of the brands mentioned here ( I live in ultra-hip Texas) so any advice would be much appreciated.

Levi's Skinners fit me perfect but I am tired of the current washes. So I am looking for something new - similar fit (low, slim, bootcut), similar price (max about $250), and pre-washed (raw denim hurts my balls). I am 32w-34l if that helps for anything.

-thanks again

ps. if anyone says "Wranglers" I will jump through your computer and shove my six-shooter up your *