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that's not people, that's one dude called joerg.
good luck selling 580 euro jeans in berlin!
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my best bet is those visvims will go offline anyways. no visvim retailer is allowed to sell directly over a website.
but yea you're right. the french euro is VERY scary.
they charge out of their ass.
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usually when it comes to production you don't mess with sending in samples in every size.Quote:The sample will be coming in later next week.
I called in yesterday and was told that the fit is pretty much the same as the supreme hoody. It is slightly heavier, but the construciton is the same.
Here is some production informaiton for you. We are purchasing matering from a mill in Taiwan that supplies material to Japanese distrbutors. I was told that the material we selected is commonly used by man Japanes brands. I was assured that we can expect a higher quality.
The material is cut at a factory. My family will then take the material and send it to be handsewn. There isn't a company that does such small numbers in Taiwan, and thus my family have found independent contractos to do the sewing. That explains why I can only promise around 100 sweatshirts a week.
Ok, now I need to send a sample of a medium or small to Taiwan. Is there a particular cut of medium and small that SF prefer. If not, then I will be sending in my Supreme medium to Taiwan, and using some Jerzee small as our sample.
The goal is to provide the sweats to high end indie brands, and if they cannot cough up $40 for a quality hoody then I guess we will be stuck with 500 sweatshirts. There will be no labels, but I have decided to take the advice of a SF and print a distinc sizing tag (it will probably have SML, and chinese characters reflecting the same, and washing instructions).
There will eventually be a website. I have some ecommerce experience and this should be up and running a week after I get confirmation that the sweatshirts are in production.
I am giving myself 2 months to move 500. If it can be done then I will throw caution in the wind and do other colors. And if that can go well for one season, then you can expect some really reckless crazy shit.
Thanks for the interest, and I hope I have addressed your questions and concerns.
-pete
--- Original message by starvinglawstudent on Feb 22, 2006 08:31 PM
you do one (perfect) salesman sample (sz. L), than you use grading scales for each size up and down (approx. 2.5-3%). there's even international production guidelines for that. that's how every label does it. even your beloved supreme hoodies are made using grading scales.
maybe you can ask someone who studied textile design for help. bodies and sleeves are graded differently.
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that's the UK distributor right? i think they do prps as well.Quote:^ indigofera?
--- Original message by hahnstch on Feb 21, 2006 06:57 AM
who needs a distribution in the UK anyways if you're better off walzing in any given US retailer and buying the gear there?
go figure you're a retailer in the UK and the distributor charges you more than US retail. that's an insult straight to the face... considering the distributor still gets 60%+ off retail from CYC.
that being said, i'm not suprised spruce and w&h is completely unknown in the UK. or europe.
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the duffer flagship store in london has been stocking both labels for already a few seasons now, but they charge outrageous prices (double US retail!! - don't ask me how's that possible for an authorized retailer)Quote:
i cant speak for the rest of europe, but they are virtually unknown in the uk...Quote:apparenlty spruce and wings & horn are widespread and very popular in europe and japan. I wasn't aware.
was in toronto today, grabbed some wings and horn stuff from nomad and tntblue.
would post pics but away from my camera. beautiful stuff though.
--- Original message by nairb49 on Feb 20, 2006 04:50 PM
--- Original message by guffer on Feb 21, 2006 03:43 AM
i think urban outfitters in london had spruce in a few seasons back, but not anymore.
selfridges had it too, don't know if they still stock it though.
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if you're in bangkok, try playground for your hipster needs
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spruce IS available online, dudes...
http://zozo.jp/shop/shipsjetblue/goods.html?gid=93301&did=&cid=680
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wrong forum.
try supermarket.
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s. alan no longer reps spruce ... don't know if they still stock it though.
i dont know about you guys, but somehow the fact that uppercut is sold on www.amazon.com really turns me off...
would be interesting to know if the stuff is made by CYC though, since they're both from vancouver. does someone know more?
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thats way too expensive if you're doing these quantities.Quote:This is the latest news. The minimum is 500. We have to buy the material in bulk. It is better quality then Supreme (well the sample we provided). The told us that the material Supreme usese is just heavy and thus more durable, we will be using some slightly higher. But, here is the bad news. The 500 minimum is for each color. That's a 10 grand investment for one color, since each sweatshirt would cost roughly $20 shipped to the US.
The dual zipper added another fifty cents to each sweatshirt.
Each sweatshirt is completely hand sewn/stitched, and production is at roughly 20 a day.
I am wondering if I could manage to sell 500. I was thinking I would be able to do 200 for the first run. And that was under assumption that there was more then one color. Do you think it is worth bringing quality to the masses?
Well, thats the update I should have a sample in a few weeks.
BTW I think the color I will do is black with silver zipper.
Alright more later.
-pete
--- Original message by starvinglawstudent on Feb 15, 2006 04:39 PM
if they provide you lighter cotton, it means they're buying it from the market. my best guess is it's some standard 350gsm which is easily available. such hoodies should cost you less than $8 if you're doing 500. hoodies with side seams are even cheaper to make because they can cut them out of whatever. tubular ones or side inserts are more expensive.
i wouldnt risk this whole adventure if all you do is process standard cotton from the market...
if you wanna have "supreme" quality (450+ gsm) it means the manufacturer has to go to a mill to have the cotton especially made for your order according to your specifications. and this is one of the MAIN reasons why smaller independent labels dont make they're own cut n sew. because they cant meet the production minimums... which is usually 500. per colorway. ouch. good luck getting rid off that.
i'd say a regular store orders 6-8pcs per colorway from smaller labels. do the math... if you dont have at least 60 retailers you can't even dream about having your own cut n sew.
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hillarious.Quote:those sites with jp on the back ~not workin~any website for buying raw jeans or hoodies?
--- Original message by cicitony on Feb 14, 2006 06:38 PM
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yea~man~~ supreme~~ is fuckin~~ bullshit, how~~ dare they not~~~~ to stock what you want the second ~~you decide to move~~ your holy ass to the store?!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Quote:as yorker~i went to supreme store before~like last saturday~~it was like only 05 larry clark's billy man there~and others r cheap shits~and only pure color sweats and hoods there[actually not much too]~nothing special~no box tee ~no box hood~they got nothing~~19th backpack is ugly too~~supreme's business had destroyed by nigo's bsw~and someother stores~~anyway~i wish i can get the 14th supreme backpack~and the light blue box tee~~now is hard to find them~
--- Original message by cicitony on Feb 14, 2006 08:05 AM
as far as i am concerned i hate every niketown on this planet as well. they all suck. these idiots haven't been stocking the original jordan IV since 1989 and i dont know why. i don't understand it.
i go there every week but they're never back in stock and i hate niketown more with every visit.
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hot.
prices?
any idea?
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sometimes i think that my supreme hoody could be a tad more heavyweight. i know they're already pretty thick, but i think if you added a little weight it would have a state if the art luxury feel to it.
i think supreme hoodies use 450gsm, not sure about that though, maybe someone here knows.
so maybe i'd try 490-500ish.
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commissary in san diego stocks supreme too.
give them a call, they're good peoples.
Edited by misterdobalina on Feb 8, 2006 at 05:13 PM
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yea dude they got dozens and dozens of supreme accounts spread all across the USA, they fuckin suck hairy cocks for only producing the stuff they get the most orders for.Quote:yeah, i fucking love ordering clothing that was drawn is adobe illustrator. what bullshit is that? all it means is that NONE of this shit has been produced yet, and they'll only ship the stuff they get the most orders for. k-lame.
--- Original message by allocryptic on Feb 7, 2006 02:02 PM
what a bunch of lamers.
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coming ss06 with tees, denims, hoodies and jackets. plus some nice collabs.
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melbourne: someday
sydney: supply
sydney: footage (reseller)
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if you wanna have your own cut n sew from CYC you're facing quantities of 500+ per style and color.
dunno if that's reasonable if you're just starting up and wanna have a few hoodies made...
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yes thats true. made by cyc.
they're heavyweight with a double layered hood.
they fit ok on the chest, but the total length and the sleeves are kinda short so you might wanna go up one size unless you like a snug fit.
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you'd rather try to help, hansdampf.
i cleaned out the non jp labels and double posts.
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theres GDEH UK (Gimme5) and GDEH JP (Fujiwara)
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add almost every label here
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Spruce hoodie -- zipper-stitching repair question
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kinda off topic (sorry for not being of any help), but how much was retail on this one at selfridges?
just being curious.