Roy. (expurgated edition)

[mpukas]

I received 3 emails at the same time; one was order being processed, one was order cancelled, and the last was order shipped. When I checked the order on my SE account, it said the XX20 was oversold and I was refunded. The XUVS has shipped. 

I'd assume that if you guys have received a shipping notice, and no refund notice, then you order has been fulfilled. 

[UkeNo]

6 minutes ago, Broark said:

Got my shipping notification as well, y’all got me worried now.  Crazy fast turnaround on the hemming, had both pairs hemmed to 35 pre wash.

One of the things that gets me about Roy's jeans are the long inseam - meaning that a good number of people will have them hemmed and not benefit from, or experience the hem he's created on his wizards hemming machine. 

I'm not aware of any pairs of worn and faded jeans that have the original hem since he started using the current Union Special(?) he has now. It definitely has a heft or thickness to it that's unlike others.  

I'd like to see a we'll roped pair with the original hem stitching after some good wear. 
 

Anyone..? 
 

 

[Broark]

@UkeNo I completely agree with this, here's my original Test Lot jeans that were hemmed by Roy himself.

[julian-wolf]

^ I can post photos of the hems of my R01 Test Lots this weekend; not sure at what points in time he’s made changes to his setup, but these would’ve been done around 2 years ago

edit: Beat me to it (actually, though, there may already be some photos of the hems among the update shots that I posted a few pages ago)

Edited July 28, 2020 by julian-wolf

[UkeNo]

Yes @Broark Those look sweet. None of mine have that particular hem stitch - Mine are all Union special but not like that.
It's a feature that is hard to replicate for anyone else, and is the sort of detail that's sets Roy's apart. 
 

edit: Thanks @julian-wolf

Edited July 28, 2020 by UkeNo

[UkeNo]

I'm pretty sure Roy was hemming jeans at Inspiration or Denimbruin a few years back with this machine. Had a sign with something quirky on it by his station. 
might of been 2016 or 17? 
sure he wasn't selling jeans just show casing this kit and hanging out. 
This sound right? 
 

Edit: This one is probably an embroidery machine not chainstitch. 

Sure there a similar picture with the Chainstitch machine too. 

Edited July 28, 2020 by UkeNo

[Broark]

Yeah that does sound right @UkeNo, I remember seeing some photos of that.
He had a butt coffee mug as a tip jar. 

[goodrain]

was 2015

https://www.denimbro.com/roy_topic41_page68.html

[youngofthesoonest]

I think the machine he uses for hemming is still the singer chainsticher that he tweaked. it's a very cool machine. We dont have that machine but all the Roys being hemmed are hemmed on the union special 43200G that roy set up and tuned at the end of 2019. Hems up pretty nicely. 

Edited July 28, 2020 by youngofthesoonest

[UkeNo]

@goodrain - that's it.  
(photos by Mr Randal via Denimbro / Denimbruin) 

It's a Singer chain stitch machine - more details and discussion in original posts on DB (as linked above)

Edited July 28, 2020 by UkeNo

[Broark]

I love that flannel.

[julian-wolf]

Seriously, what a beaut

[UkeNo]

I/we have these hems @youngofthesoonest they're very nice indeed. No complaints here.
Wanted to check what the difference was...A rare Union Special vs even rarer Singer chain stitch. 
Brilliant that the attention to construction details and finish stretches this far really. 

11 minutes ago, youngofthesoonest said:

I think the machine he uses for hemming is still the singer chainsticher that he tweaked. it's a very cool machine. We dont have that machine but all the Roys being hemmed are hemmed on the union special 43200G that roy set up and retuned at the end of 2019. Hems up pretty nicely. 

 

Edited July 28, 2020 by UkeNo

[youngofthesoonest]

5 minutes ago, UkeNo said:

I/we have these hems @youngofthesoonest they're very nice indeed. No complaints here.
Wanted to check what the difference was...A rare Union Special vs even rarer Singer chain stitch. 
Brilliant that the attention to construction details and finish stretches this far really. 

 

haha I definitely get it. From what I've seen the singer stitch has a nice rounder look with each stitch. I think he also uses a thicker pima cotton thread which really adds to the look of it. I would've loved to keep the original hem but unfortunately my short inseam and high water jean preference makes it so I end up hemming at least 4" minimum on every jean I get. 

[TheEscapist]

I thought I was safe after I missed them go up yesterday, but a size 32 just popped back up on their site in the XX20, so I checked out with them. We'll see if they ship.

[JohnM]

Ordered both, got one.  Looking forward to the XUVS .., and happy to share the Roy wealth and assuage my guilt.

[mpukas]

2 hours ago, UkeNo said:

One of the things that gets me about Roy's jeans are the long inseam - meaning that a good number of people will have them hemmed and not benefit from, or experience the hem he's created on his wizards hemming machine. 

Agree completely. 39.5" inseam is really long, and I'll need mine hemmed. Didn't order hemming at time of purchase. I wish Roy offered hemming his own jeans himself. I'd pay shipping both ways and a fee for him to do it. As it is I'll still have to pay for SE to do it. Unless I decide to actually be cool and wear cuffs... 

[tewsday]

Congrats to everyone that snagged a pair! My regret for not purchasing a pair is getting real. If anyone has the XX20 or XUVS in size 32 or 33 that they want to part ways with, please shoot me a PM.

Edited July 29, 2020 by tewsday

[julian-wolf]

Full-sized rivets for the coin pocket (fully adorned as befitting to Leroy's)—has that been the case for the other recent Self Edge releases? For a while it seemed like he was always using the tiny rivets for the coin pockets

Hell yeah

[SLAB]

i want to see the back pockets 

[youngofthesoonest]

10 hours ago, julian-wolf said:

Full-sized rivets for the coin pocket (fully adorned as befitting to Leroy's)—has that been the case for the other recent Self Edge releases? For a while it seemed like he was always using the tiny rivets for the coin pockets

Hell yeah

Usually the coin pocket is the smaller rivet. I believe the full size rivet with the special leroyness is unique for this release (I didnt get a chance to see the previous Leroy releases so I'm not sure if this is a Leroy thing in general that he does)

[goodrain]

1 hour ago, SLAB said:

i want to see the back pockets 

from the product pics it seems that the special details are only on the right back pocket?

[julian-wolf]

^ Same details as the previous R01 Leroy’s, at least as far as the back pockets go

Good info @youngofthesoonest, thanks—the last ones used small rivets with appropriate branding, so I guess the full-sized branded coin pocket rivets are a first

[heyson]

indigo lovers are getting pretty hairy

[jegr]

Didn’t do any raw measurements but I hot washed my size 33 xx20s.

These will have to go in the dryer for some extra shrinkage, any tips? Dry them in the machine all the way or just high heat for a few minutes and line dry?

XX20 size 33  

Waist - 16.75”

Front Rise - 12.85”

Back Rise - 16.85”

Thigh - 13.75”

Thigh 1” Down - 13.25”

Knee 14” down - 9.5”

30” Down - 8.85”

34” Down - 8.75”

Inseam - 36.25”

Hem - 8.5”

[Josh'N'Roll]

How much more do you need them to shrink? If I use the dryer, I dry my jeans until they are damp (on "delicate" or "permanent press/medium heat" settings, checking on them every 15 minutes). Then I hang them until they are completely dry. If you need more shrinkage, you could blast them on the highest heat setting until they are nearly dry, then hang them.

I know you didn't take raw measurements, but how much did the waist shrink if you had to guess? 

[jegr]

Thanks @josh’n’roll. They shrunk a good bit. 1” - 1 1/2” in the waist and as much everywhere else as you’d expect from unsanforized denim.

[Josh'N'Roll]

Thanks, @jegr. I got a pair of the xx20 size 34. The waist measures bang on 36" which is TTS for me. I'm worried they'll shrink too much even with a  cold wash. Gotta wait and see how stretchy the denim is before I soak them.

[jegr]

Yeah, I should have sized down. Not sure about the denim as I haven’t worn it yet but it’s nice and light so I’d expect it to give.

[seethruskin]

I passed on these day of and instantly regret it. If anyone has a 34 in the lighter denim, holler