arcteryx veilance

[shifty]

Was in NYC this past week and stopped by the veilance store, super cool space. They still have the card case and larger wallet (not sure what to call it), but the bifold is sold out except the display one. Asked about the wide release of the leather goods and the saleswoman specifically said that they're aiming for fall 2017 to do that, so hopefully thats true.

 

Also, I knew that I was probably going to replace my voronoi (first gen AR? circa fall 13) somewhat soon because i've noticed the fabric is pretty much worn through at the bottom of the zipper panel, but putting them on today they had a huge rip in the inner thigh (of course I notice the day after I go to the store without any time to go back). Has anyone else had experience with an issue like this? What are my chances of getting a replacement vs a repair and what is a typical 'nominal charge' mentioned in the returns fine print?

[tv_ice]

I'd say you have at least a chance at a replacement. I had a pair of voronois replaced after the nyco wore through, albeit they were only 1.5 years old. Really depends on whether they decide it's wear and tear or premature wear. 

You might benefit from the fact that, if I recall correctly from my claim, there is a known issue with the durability of the fabric used on the older voronois.

edit: forgot the link - http://www.arcteryx.com/warranty.aspx?country=us&language=en

Edited December 12, 2016 by tv_ice

[droffen]

Any new experience with the new Achrom IS jacket?

[branespload]

what do you wanna know about it? i posted fit pics and have been using it almost every day here in NYC, can provide real-world insight if youre curious about anything specifically

[droffen]

How is the fit, material, thickness of insulation?

Ich have the Nemis, Arris and Mionn IS jackets.

Is it a mixture of these 3?

How is the thickness and material compared to Field IS & Node Down.

Anything else you observed (good or bad) since your posted the pictures?

Edited December 13, 2016 by droffen

[branespload]

Great questions. I have those pieces too so I can frame them in that context.

 

So the fit is similar to the Arris in how it's shorter with geometric cutouts at the hem and sleeves. The insulation is an 80gsm Coreloft in the body and 60gsm in the sleeves, very similar to the Mionn IS. It's also similar to the Arris in that it uses GORE C-Knit. So in a way, it's like having a Mionn IS Jacket combined with a C-knit shell. It's not really similar to the Nemis, maaaybe in the way the top is cut but the materials are so different it doesn't really translate well. The Achrom is a very nicely structured piece, I love it as I have broader chest/shoulders for my frame so it makes me look really strong compared to some of the longer, drapey-er silhouettes.

 

The thickness of the material, I'm assuming you mean the coreloft insulation, is closer to the Field IS (that's a 150gsm fill). I have the Node and the Node is significantly/noticeably bulkier in volume compared to the Achrom.

 

Only thing I'd say is be careful of washing/drying it, it's tricky for me to get insulated pieces dried properly and get them nice and lofty again. I also really like the way the jacket looks when unzipped, and drying it kinda warps the zipper so it's not as clean. Also, when fully zipped up, the front of the jacket kinda flares forward and the back hem hugs your butt so it makes you look a little chubby or something when you aren't. Otherwise, it's great. The C-knit really makes it so comfortable and all the geometric cutouts really encourage mobility and comfort too. This and the Indisce 3/4 are probably my favorite from this season..

[RemarkableArmor]

Great questions. I have those pieces too so I can frame them in that context.

 

So the fit is similar to the Arris in how it's shorter with geometric cutouts at the hem and sleeves. The insulation is an 80gsm Coreloft in the body and 60gsm in the sleeves, very similar to the Mionn IS. It's also similar to the Arris in that it uses GORE C-Knit. So in a way, it's like having a Mionn IS Jacket combined with a C-knit shell. It's not really similar to the Nemis, maaaybe in the way the top is cut but the materials are so different it doesn't really translate well. The Achrom is a very nicely structured piece, I love it as I have broader chest/shoulders for my frame so it makes me look really strong compared to some of the longer, drapey-er silhouettes.

 

The thickness of the material, I'm assuming you mean the coreloft insulation, is closer to the Field IS (that's a 150gsm fill). I have the Node and the Node is significantly/noticeably bulkier in volume compared to the Achrom.

 

Only thing I'd say is be careful of washing/drying it, it's tricky for me to get insulated pieces dried properly and get them nice and lofty again. I also really like the way the jacket looks when unzipped, and drying it kinda warps the zipper so it's not as clean. Also, when fully zipped up, the front of the jacket kinda flares forward and the back hem hugs your butt so it makes you look a little chubby or something when you aren't. Otherwise, it's great. The C-knit really makes it so comfortable and all the geometric cutouts really encourage mobility and comfort too. This and the Indisce 3/4 are probably my favorite from this season..

 

 

What's the current line of thinking around maintaining loft in a synthetic down jacket like that? I haven't washed any of the Veilance coreloft pieces yet but, if I'm right in assuming, the insulation is made up of continuous pieces as opposed to down-style which would need breaking up and you could use the drying balls like in a grangers down kit (which would actually require the breaking up of clumps). I've washed primaloft/climashield with those regardless and it seems to help a bit by bashing it around I guess. Can you share some more regarding experience in washing/drying the Achrom and how the loft was affected based on your techniques? Thanks

[frankie_four]

I've washed my Mionn Composite jacket a few times at gentle wash setting. Just check that you use Granger's or Nikwax products to keep the fabric characteristics

[branespload]

What's the current line of thinking around maintaining loft in a synthetic down jacket like that? I haven't washed any of the Veilance coreloft pieces yet but, if I'm right in assuming, the insulation is made up of continuous pieces as opposed to down-style which would need breaking up and you could use the drying balls like in a grangers down kit (which would actually require the breaking up of clumps). I've washed primaloft/climashield with those regardless and it seems to help a bit by bashing it around I guess. Can you share some more regarding experience in washing/drying the Achrom and how the loft was affected based on your techniques? Thanks

nah sorry if my original post made it sound like coreloft is inherently prone to losing loft after a wash -- that's not the case. but since it was my first time washing it, in hindsight I should've done a better job of pressing out water that bunches up in the sleeves/cuffs with a towel to help it dry more evenly. just like, press out excess water that's hidden in the sleeves with a clean, dry towel, then fluff it up again before tossing it in the dryer.

 

with the down pieces, that's a lot more labor intensive to get it perfect. dryer balls, low and slow for many hours, occasionally breaking up down feather clumps, etc. like frankie said above, use a tech performance wash, and i'd also add to rinse it again or run it through the wash without soap to free all the residue from the initial wash..

[mts]

can anyone talk abt their thoughts/experiences on this year's monitor coat? i have the LT version from a few seasons back and i'm considering an update. soot looks really nice but can't find real world pics.

[branespload]

the soot is freakin sick lol

 

[Yoshiii]

Insert flames emoji*^

[EG562]

Which coat is that branesplode? Looks great.

[branespload]

it's a monitor coat in soot, XS since that dude up there asked for a real world pic. i never thought i'd be able to wear long stuff, or non-black, but the soot on the monitor works really well

[droffen]

Great questions. I have those pieces too so I can frame them in that context.

 

So the fit is similar to the Arris in how it's shorter with geometric cutouts at the hem and sleeves. The insulation is an 80gsm Coreloft in the body and 60gsm in the sleeves, very similar to the Mionn IS. It's also similar to the Arris in that it uses GORE C-Knit. So in a way, it's like having a Mionn IS Jacket combined with a C-knit shell. It's not really similar to the Nemis, maaaybe in the way the top is cut but the materials are so different it doesn't really translate well. The Achrom is a very nicely structured piece, I love it as I have broader chest/shoulders for my frame so it makes me look really strong compared to some of the longer, drapey-er silhouettes.

 

The thickness of the material, I'm assuming you mean the coreloft insulation, is closer to the Field IS (that's a 150gsm fill). I have the Node and the Node is significantly/noticeably bulkier in volume compared to the Achrom.

 

Only thing I'd say is be careful of washing/drying it, it's tricky for me to get insulated pieces dried properly and get them nice and lofty again. I also really like the way the jacket looks when unzipped, and drying it kinda warps the zipper so it's not as clean. Also, when fully zipped up, the front of the jacket kinda flares forward and the back hem hugs your butt so it makes you look a little chubby or something when you aren't. Otherwise, it's great. The C-knit really makes it so comfortable and all the geometric cutouts really encourage mobility and comfort too. This and the Indisce 3/4 are probably my favorite from this season..

Thank you very much.

This helps a lot.

[Ecotrons]

Anyone seen the Quoin jacket in person? Thoughts? 

[matthewcng]

2017 S/S  - Field Shirt

 

https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/arcteryx-veilance/black-field-shirt/1756523

 

what do you guys think?

[Inkinsurgent]

it was briefly discussed a few pages back. to me it's absolutely peak veilance. i totally get the idea of making the core veilance look of the field jacket applicable to more settings.

 

i hope the fabric has a sturdy, overshirt-like drape.

[branespload]

alright nerds, here's some snaps from the nyc concept store ss17 trunk show. mainly just the new pieces, i'll briefly go over the important stuff

 

 

field shirt. intended use case is as a versatile mid layer, especially for warm weather ventilation. unlike most veilance midlayers/outerwear, they're water/wind resistant. field shirt is fully air permeable, meaning you can wear it and it'll actually let a nice breeze through to cool you down. hidden buttons, field pockets, notches at the hem, etc. it's sturdy.

 

 

conduct anorak. quarter zip pullover, full passthrough kangaroo pocket, watertight zips, RS slider zip hardware (these are arcteryx's new zippers that have a notch cut out at the top of the zipper so when fully closed, the recessed notch 'bites' onto the fabric at the end of the zipper.. basically a simpler/elegant/low bulk way of getting the same closure/sealed effect of a zipper garage. low bulk. typical arcteryx iteration). goretex c-knit for next to skin comfort, packability and drape. oh, comes with an included stuff sack in the kangaroo pocket. has an internal chest pocket accessible through the huge right side two-way zip. terminates in a snap closure. unbuttons to make putting on/off easier, gives fuller range of motion, lets you dump heat, etc. fits pretty trim -- hard to put on, but once it's on, very articulated and comfortable. i can imagine some of you would want ot size up on this

 

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[branespload]

 

redesigned align pant. veilance take on a cargo pant. will explain in comparison to apparat. firstly, no visible back pocket. instead, front slash pockets that intersect with a darted articulation thing. that conceals a long zipper, opening it reveals tons of storage space and internal pockets. basically you have a back pocket and then some, it's just hidden inside the zipper. pocket sits way higher up compared to apparat, which tend to bear the load of your gear at your knee (not ideal imo). fit is a straight leg but can still be very slim dpeending on how you size it. not nearly as articulated as something like the voronoi. fabric still a nyco blend, feels more rigid than voronoi AR, isogon material, but not as 'peach twill' or whatever the apparat is.

 

 

dyadic cardigan vers. basically a dyadic with a zipper, hidden side pockets, mapp merino wool jersey on the underarms for moisture wicking n breathability. personally i dont liek this one that much ,the collar/zip isn't my style. i prefer the graph cardi

 

terratex voronois return, this time in navy, black, douro red. voronoi shorts too. no apparat short this season, i dont think

 

 

apparats return, this time instead of black and playa, just a black II. which is dope, it actually looks black. my apparats' terratex paneling is blueish, these are a deeeeeep grey/black. hardware matches more closely at the hem.

 

then you got buncha frame tees, nemis in ash and blue, seque tote in ash (looks more like a denim/canvas, doesnt scuff as much as black).

 

hope this was helpful. lmk if u guys have any q's

[Jun.H]

Damn! Thanks branespload. You always deliver. Any idea what pricing is gonna be like on the anorak?

Edited December 19, 2016 by Jun.H

[branespload]

800 iirc. I remember being surprised cuz I was expecting closer to 850 usd

[shoreman]

Align pant just might be the everyday pant I've been looking for. Thanks for the info and pics.

[Inkinsurgent]

cargos, field shirt... another "hey, lets drop a grand on veilance" season.

[Loos Threads]

Great pieces, thanks. Were you wearing a midlayer when trying on the Conduct? 

[branespload]

No, the sample pieces were all size M. I'm an XS so didn't get to try them on. some of this info is relayed from other ppls experiences in the store or just speaking off looking at its design, sorry if that wasn't clear

[jizue]

I went to the NYC Veilance store recently while wearing an Outlier Ultrafine merino t-shirt. I have to say if price was no object, I would take the Veilance piece every single time. At almost twice the cost of something that already seems a little ridiculously priced, it's pretty hard to justify though.

[Flipflop214]

Dope, how much is the field shirt? Any color other than black?

[polarad]

what are the differences between the two nomin pack on ssense? 

[eloshine]

Just picked up the Monitor Down in black. Does anyone else notice the outer nylon tends to easily pickup dust and lint? Wondering if it's due to their current iteration of Gore.