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Great fits! I really like the 606s in size 32!

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Yours are the ones that convinced me to the get the TCBs @mandel! (I'm blaewen on Insta and I can't figure out how to change my display name here!). I'm considering getting the one size up as well, since the ones I have fit quite tight, though still pretty comfy. The TCBs are my first pair of high rise - and I love them. Although for me (being short) the waist sits right on/above my belly button, so super high, but I like the style.

 

I've tried out a few mens' cuts (Flathead, Levis, TCBs) and I think the women's cuts suit me better, only because I'm so short and my waist/thigh ratio is...significant? :D

 

I love the Warehouse and the fit on the Ooe-Yofukuten's look great!

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I figured that much after seeing similarities in the photos here and there, @theravensnest/@blaewen! :D Looking forward to seeing more of the TCBs and your other jeans. Thanks for the kind words too!

 

You're right about rise and other fit properties being very individual and dependent on height/body type. It takes a few trials and errors but I think I've finally found what works best for me. The funny thing is that what is often labeled anti-fit (for men), i.e. baggy in the seat and thighs, usually fits me like a glove when sized down. So one man's anti-fit is another woman's best fit, so to speak. 

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I have and love the TCB Orange 606 too. I have two pairs, one is tight and the other is a little looser and more comfortable. Fit pics of both below. Sorry about the low resolution, I had to re-download from my own Instagram. 

 

TCB Orange 606, size 30

 

TCB Orange 606, size 32

 

I have quite a few pairs of raw denim, but I don't own a single women's cut. Most men's or unisex cuts work for me since I'm tall and not very curvy, as long as the thighs are roomy (enough) I'm good. Funny you should say that about the rise, @theravensnest, because 10 inches is an absolute minimum for me, although that's based on comfort and not aesthetics. I do like the low rise look on others.

 

Here are a couple of other jeans in my rotation. 

 

Warehouse 1101, size 30

 

Ooe-Yofukuten OA02-510, size 31

 

 

looks fantastic! :D  

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I figured that much after seeing similarities in the photos here and there, @theravensnest/@blaewen! :D Looking forward to seeing more of the TCBs and your other jeans. Thanks for the kind words too!

 

You're right about rise and other fit properties being very individual and dependent on height/body type. It takes a few trials and errors but I think I've finally found what works best for me. The funny thing is that what is often labeled anti-fit (for men), i.e. baggy in the seat and thighs, usually fits me like a glove when sized down. So one man's anti-fit is another woman's best fit, so to speak. 

 

Definitely! I've found it a bit hit and miss, but been lucky overall. Just about to sell a pair of guys Flatheads 5002 that didn't work out for me - I hate to let them go because they're gorgeous, but too nice for me not to wear as much as they deserve.

 

On the bright side, I get to shop for a new pair now!

 

The TCBs in the bigger size look great, they look like totally different jeans!

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I did decide to size down in the samurai geisha; just had a "what if I regret it forever?" kind of moment because I love so much how the size 3 is fading and I love how it matches my shape, love the texture and weight too, but I liked the size less and less because they had stretched so much and felt too big :)

 

so this is samurai geisha bootcut size 2 (M); on day 2 because I couldn't button them on day 1 (they did loosen up fast though - just wearing them a few hours was enough to button them the next day).  And the flare at the bottom is smaller in this size...I like that too :)

 

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I'm done buying jeans now, I swear!   :D

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also got pictures of my larger samurai geisha size 3 fades with 1 month of wear (with lots of walking...I was getting some nice whiskering in the front). 

I am keeping these just in case I gain weight someday or in case washing someday makes them shrink more than I expected etc.

 

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Great fit! It was a good decision to size down :)

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They look like a great fit! Seems the smaller size is the way to go. I'm torn, because to get them big enough for my thigh measurement, the waist is half an inch bigger than I'd prefer - so I'm not sure what to do! Might just have to take a punt.


 

I'm done buying jeans now, I swear!   :D

 

 I've said this myself....somehow I've still ended up with way too many jeans!  :D

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They look like a great fit! Seems the smaller size is the way to go. I'm torn, because to get them big enough for my thigh measurement, the waist is half an inch bigger than I'd prefer - so I'm not sure what to do! Might just have to take a punt.

 

 

 I've said this myself....somehow I've still ended up with way too many jeans!  :D

 

The thighs will stretch a lot though!  the size 3 when I first bought it was so tight in the thighs that I couldn't pull them all the way up...20 wears later I could pinch extra fabric in the thigh and butt (too much extra for my taste actually).  The waist and everything else will stretch too though so who knows.

 

Momotaro 8005SP has the smallest waist/biggest thigh ratio I have ever seen so far (at least among raw denim low rise which is where I've been looking the most); I like that one too  :D

 

I have officially too many jeans too now too...lol!  2 are slightly too big for me, 2 just right, 1 a very tight squeeze....so even if I gain or lose weight I should still try really really hard to not buy more....lol

 

Great fit! It was a good decision to size down  :)

 

thank you! I am glad I did  :D

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@mandel9000 what does your waist measure? love the tcb 606 fit and would like to purchase for my girlfriend. thanks!

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Not sure, I've avoided all measurements and scales since I had to stop exercising again because of knee issues, but I'll check later. I'm 5'10", close to 150 lbs and have a normal build, if that helps. My impression is that the TCB 606 is slightly undersized compared to other brands and fits I own. The size 30 is closer to a 29, and the 32 is really a 31. 

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Correct!

I just measured, and my natural waist - which is quite high up on women - is 28.5", and the point where these jeans sit measures about 30.5-31". I usually wear size 29-30 depending on cut, sometimes 31, and the TCB Oranges are my only size 32.

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^thank you very much! I have ordered already, let's hope they fit

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Hello everyone, we wanted to invite you to our event this Saturday November 19th from 1pm-6pm at the Railcar Workshop in Monrovia, California! We will be having a workshop open house to welcome the new Railcar women's "Starlet" stretch skinny fit to the line and to celebrate the Red Wing women's line to the shop. Both these items pair well with each other. We will also be having a free leather boot care class. There will be free boot cleaning supplies here to use and to purchase. We have Red Wing showing you what products works best for your boots leather. All brand boots welcome to party. To really want to out do ourselves, for every Red Wing bought, men's or women's we will be giving away a $50 store credit to buy something here! Other items will also be given away too. Such as Red Wing socks and accessories while supplies last! Enjoy the day with us here. Drinks and snacks too! Located at 802 S Primrose Ave, Monrovia, CA 91016

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^ Wesco can do down to a men's size 3 (~ women's size 5) I think. Shouldn't be an issue :)

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Hello - I'm looking for a pair of jeans for my ladyfriend. I have done a bit of reading, but i'm still not sure. Her actual waist is around 30, hips around 36 and butt around 38. I'm worried something even with stretch will be too loose in the legs, while fitting the waist fine. I'll keep looking through this thread. But any suggestions for someone with not a ton of waist hip ratio would be great. She doesn't like anything with very low of a rise. I'm considering the Railcar Vixen X028 but even then, I'm not sure exactly what size to get her. Because it stretches, going a sz under might be reasonable.. but in your experience, is that actually too tight?

 

edit: shit i might be wrong about those measurements.... something close tho.

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Hello - I'm looking for a pair of jeans for my ladyfriend. I have done a bit of reading, but i'm still not sure. Her actual waist is around 30, hips around 36 and butt around 38. I'm worried something even with stretch will be too loose in the legs, while fitting the waist fine. I'll keep looking through this thread. But any suggestions for someone with not a ton of waist hip ratio would be great. She doesn't like anything with very low of a rise. I'm considering the Railcar Vixen X028 but even then, I'm not sure exactly what size to get her. Because it stretches, going a sz under might be reasonable.. but in your experience, is that actually too tight?
 
edit: shit i might be wrong about those measurements.... something close tho.

 

 

 

Just reach out to Taylor at Rail Car directly. She really knows their line and measurements and will def guide you to the right fit. They're also very keen on making sure the fit is right (exchanges have never been an issue for me).

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Hello - I'm looking for a pair of jeans for my ladyfriend. I have done a bit of reading, but i'm still not sure. Her actual waist is around 30, hips around 36 and butt around 38. I'm worried something even with stretch will be too loose in the legs, while fitting the waist fine. I'll keep looking through this thread. But any suggestions for someone with not a ton of waist hip ratio would be great. She doesn't like anything with very low of a rise. I'm considering the Railcar Vixen X028 but even then, I'm not sure exactly what size to get her. Because it stretches, going a sz under might be reasonable.. but in your experience, is that actually too tight?
 
edit: shit i might be wrong about those measurements.... something close tho.

 

 

need pics when it gets here! :D  in any brand so far I am happiest with the raw denim where I sized down a lot...like on day 1 too tight in the thighs to pull it all the way up and too tight in the waist to button it without an extender.  I tried Railcar Vixen before I learned that.  and my Vixens fit great on day 1 but a week later was clearly at least two sizes too big for me. They do stretch a lot.  Downsizing service made them fit better but then they sat too high on me and the back pocket placement was odd when they sat higher so I gave them away.  Railcar Vixen also had a lot of convex shape in the tailbone/SI joint area that I couldn't fill because I am flat right above my butt.  But I'm not sure if that was just the size I tried; maybe in a much smaller size that convex area would have been on my butt instead of above it.

 

edit: one fit example for you ... my body measurements are

 - natural waist 26"-29" depending on how much I just ate :D

 - body measurement where my belt sits (mid-rise) 32" if tape is just barely touching skin but not digging in at all

 - body measurement where my belt sits (mid-rise) 30" if I pull the tape as tight and squished as humanly possible

 - high hip (around my hip joints) 35"

 - low hip (at the widest part of my butt & greater trochanters) 38"

 - seated thigh measurement 21.5"

 

...and the jeans I am happiest with after they stretched out all had a waist measurement of about 30" fresh out of the box unworn, with 10.25" or 10.5" thighs measured right at the crotch... so too tight in the thighs to pull them all the way up on day 1, and too tight in the waist to button on day 1, with muffin top when I finally can button them, wondering if I sized down too much ...but a few weeks later just lovely, fitted.  :D  The 2 pairs I have that fit me the best are Samurai Geisha size 2 (16oz nonstretch) which broke in very quickly, and Momotaro 8005SP size 27 (14.7 oz nonstretch) which broke in very slowly.  I also have Baldwin Ten skinny size 25 (10oz stretch) which fits me decently but might end up being a little too large when it's done stretching.  Also tried Railcar Vixen size 29 which was definitely way too big for me after it stretched.  My favorite in that list is the Samurai Geisha because it's fading the fastest and I think it has a flattering shape in the rear.

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Hello - I'm looking for a pair of jeans for my ladyfriend. I have done a bit of reading, but i'm still not sure. Her actual waist is around 30, hips around 36 and butt around 38. I'm worried something even with stretch will be too loose in the legs, while fitting the waist fine. I'll keep looking through this thread. But any suggestions for someone with not a ton of waist hip ratio would be great. She doesn't like anything with very low of a rise. I'm considering the Railcar Vixen X028 but even then, I'm not sure exactly what size to get her. Because it stretches, going a sz under might be reasonable.. but in your experience, is that actually too tight?
 
edit: shit i might be wrong about those measurements.... something close tho.

 

 

Seconding getting in touch with Railcar about the Vixens or even the Starlets which are a new skinny style (Taylor posted about them above!). 3sixteen have released a ladies stretch skinny too which seems to have a higher rise. A stretch pair can be a good place to start because fitting them can be more forgiving. Having said that there's nothing like finding that great 100% cotton pair that just moulds to fit you.   :)

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need pics when it gets here! :D  in any brand so far I am happiest with the raw denim where I sized down a lot...like on day 1 too tight in the thighs to pull it all the way up and too tight in the waist to button it without an extender.  I tried Railcar Vixen before I learned that.  and my Vixens fit great on day 1 but a week later was clearly at least two sizes too big for me. They do stretch a lot.  Downsizing service made them fit better but then they sat too high on me and the back pocket placement was odd when they sat higher so I gave them away.  Railcar Vixen also had a lot of convex shape in the tailbone/SI joint area that I couldn't fill because I am flat right above my butt.  But I'm not sure if that was just the size I tried; maybe in a much smaller size that convex area would have been on my butt instead of above it.

 

edit: one fit example for you ... my body measurements are

 - natural waist 26"-29" depending on how much I just ate :D

 - body measurement where my belt sits (mid-rise) 32" if tape is just barely touching skin but not digging in at all

 - body measurement where my belt sits (mid-rise) 30" if I pull the tape as tight and squished as humanly possible

 - high hip (around my hip joints) 35"

 - low hip (at the widest part of my butt & greater trochanters) 38"

 - seated thigh measurement 21.5"

 

...and the jeans I am happiest with after they stretched out all had a waist measurement of about 30" fresh out of the box unworn, with 10.25" or 10.5" thighs measured right at the crotch... so too tight in the thighs to pull them all the way up on day 1, and too tight in the waist to button on day 1, with muffin top when I finally can button them, wondering if I sized down too much ...but a few weeks later just lovely, fitted.  :D  The 2 pairs I have that fit me the best are Samurai Geisha size 2 (16oz nonstretch) which broke in very quickly, and Momotaro 8005SP size 27 (14.7 oz nonstretch) which broke in very slowly.  I also have Baldwin Ten skinny size 25 (10oz stretch) which fits me decently but might end up being a little too large when it's done stretching.  Also tried Railcar Vixen size 29 which was definitely way too big for me after it stretched.  My favorite in that list is the Samurai Geisha because it's fading the fastest and I think it has a flattering shape in the rear.

 

 

Hello! I like to buy my raws snug as well, it feels much better when it's finally broken in and molded to your body. For my Railcars I've never had to size down, but there is some stretch in the waistband and top block area depending on the fabric. Do you remember which fabric you had tried? I wash my stretch raws regularly because I do notice it starts to loosen up and drape differently, after the wash they tighten right back up in all the right areas. I only do this for stretch denim because of how elastic they are, I try to find the right routine for all my denim and this seems to work great for me. For you I would recommend our Starlet skinny or like mentioned above our Vixen X028sBased on your measurements you would be around a 27-28 for Railcars, to better fit you though, we always recommend measuring a jean that fits you best. The waist, back/front rise, widest part of hip(widest part of jean) and thighs. Let me know!  :) 

 

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Back to my Railcar Starlet skinny. I mentioned that stretch denim does stretch out a bit more than 100% cotton denim. I wash mine regularly (every 2 weeks or so), let them air dry. They always tighten back up in the butt, waistband and knees area where I tend to have the most movement. I also work in a workshop environment and am constantly climbing, bending and moving things around so I tend to wash more than usual. Most girls are afraid of how snug the jean feels at first but it really pays off in the end, when the jean molds to your body instead of buying a size up. If you cant even button the jean, you might want to size up though depending on how you feel. Our denim usually stretches about half an inch in the waistband. So it ends up working out fine. Here are my Starlet skinnies. I have not washed mine in about 2 weeks so they are a little loose in the knees, but nothing a quick soak cant fix. You can even dip just the legs in hot water, let it soak in the tub to make those tighten up. Same with the top block area. I posted some pics of a new pair above if you want to see the comparison.I also post a lot of fit pics of our womens line on my instagram if you are ever curious. @taylorofrailcarOverall, i love these jeans. I work in the retail front of our workshop sometimes and these are always a winner when girls come in for raws. 

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Hello! I like to buy my raws snug as well, it feels much better when it's finally broken in and molded to your body. For my Railcars I've never had to size down, but there is some stretch in the waistband and top block area depending on the fabric. Do you remember which fabric you had tried? I wash my stretch raws regularly because I do notice it starts to loosen up and drape differently, after the wash they tighten right back up in all the right areas. I only do this for stretch denim because of how elastic they are, I try to find the right routine for all my denim and this seems to work great for me. For you I would recommend our Starlet skinny or like mentioned above our Vixen X028sBased on your measurements you would be around a 27-28 for Railcars, to better fit you though, we always recommend measuring a jean that fits you best. The waist, back/front rise, widest part of hip(widest part of jean) and thighs. Let me know!  :) 

 

I got the impression Vixen probably isn't for me because the place where the yoke and butt join together had a lot of convexity - and my body shape is totally flat there in the upper butt and above my butt.  Maybe that shape difference was magnified by me guessing the wrong size, but still.  I am having very good luck in brands/styles that are cut less generously in the upper butt.  I thought at first that vixen "cut with extra room in the seat" sounded perfect for me because my waist/hip ratio is pretty far out there... but it turns out mine is mostly just bone width and I don't actually have much of a butt at all.  Lol!  if I do attempt another raw denim purchase someday it would be if I lose more weight, if the samurai geishas feel too big, then I would look for the next smaller size samurai geisha's, because I love those so much and they match my shape almost like they were made for me.  But to answer your question the fabric I had tried was the X023. 

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I got the impression Vixen probably isn't for me because the place where the yoke and butt join together had a lot of convexity - and my body shape is totally flat there in the upper butt and above my butt.  Maybe that shape difference was magnified by me guessing the wrong size, but still.  I am having very good luck in brands/styles that are cut less generously in the upper butt.  I thought at first that vixen "cut with extra room in the seat" sounded perfect for me because my waist/hip ratio is pretty far out there... but it turns out mine is mostly just bone width and I don't actually have much of a butt at all.  Lol!  if I do attempt another raw denim purchase someday it would be if I lose more weight, if the samurai geishas feel too big, then I would look for the next smaller size samurai geisha's, because I love those so much and they match my shape almost like they were made for me.  But to answer your question the fabric I had tried was the X023. 

 

You definitely know what fits work for you! Yeah the Vixen fit isnt for everyone. X023 is leaning towards the heavier side of fabrics so maybe it was a little harsh. A lighter fabric would have draped and sat differently on the hip. We did have a Viper fit, it is designed for girls who have more of a straight body, lower rise as well. We pushed it to the side to see how this Vixen fit would do and girls seem to like it a lot, although we do get a lot of old time customers requesting this slimmer fit. We are going to relaunch that fit soon it might be the fit for you. I will post about it more when it is all set and done. Hope I at least helped shed some info about our fits! :) 

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