supermeatheads

[Leeacto]

Yeah the knee thing is tough at first. You've got to think about pushing them outward as you drive up. Really, they just kind of stay where they are (shins straight), but that stops your knees from collapsing.

Did some solid back squats today. 320 for 3, and I wish I'd gone heavier.

[NatseOklim]

Any tips for holding the bar better in low bar back squats? Did them for the first time today, after usually doing high bar. Managed 90kg, easy enough on the actual squat, but I kept feeling I was going to drop the bar.

[DJ_Flame]

Pull your shoulder blades back as far as you can, keep your chest up, and make sure your wrist is in-line with your forearms. You will feel awkward at first but the bar will be more stable.

Edited October 24, 2012 by DJ_Flame

[Leeacto]

Co sign w/ Flame. When you're under the bar, it may also be helpful to push your elbows up (away from your ribcage). I've squatted this way for a really long time and still feel ask though I'm keeping my torso straight.

[NatseOklim]

So quite a narrow grip? I'll try that next time.

[DJ_Flame]

Depends on your arm's length. I have quite long arms so my grip isn't that narrow, so i just make sure the wrist is aligned with the forearm + monkey grip.

Edited October 25, 2012 by DJ_Flame

[NatseOklim]

Coolio. Did clean and jerk tonight for the first time. Got 60kg.

[Alex3000]

I originally learned to squat with a low-ish bar, but a high bar digging into my traps will always feel better to me . Plus getting out of the hole in a low bar squat always felt/looked like this awkward good-morning type movement.

[e0d9n0b5]

for low bar squats might be obvious but don't wrap your thumb under the bar, have it with the rest of your figures and really bury the bar in your palm, doing this and locking up your back really tight will keep the bar nicely in place. when i'm squatting for 8, 10 reps its the only way i can keep the bar there

[julianREE]

supermeatheads, need your guy's advice on mass gainers. what are people's opinions on them? i've noticed i have a very difficult time getting enough calories in me cause of my crazy schedule, and was thinking that mass gainers would be a nice way to supplement some of the eating I have not been doing. for people who can vouch for them, what's a good brand? should i try other supplements? i've avoided taking any protein/supplements, but feel like to pack in some calories if i want to see any progress weight wise.

on another note, started squatting and deadlifting. feels good. just hope my form is good though.

[Alex3000]

Working in a supplement store mass gainers are the last think I'll think to reccomend to someone. Most are just loaded with junk carbs and sugars.

Just stick with a basic whey and use whole milk when possible. Also cook with a lot of olive oil tastes good and it's adds some calories up pretty quickly.

As far as brands go dymatize has always been solid in my book the elite gourmet line is fairly inexpensive and tastes pretty good.

Only other supps I'd buy would be a fish oil product and maybe some bcaa's.

[NatseOklim]

You can put a slug of olive oil in your protein shake too and not even notice it.

[Raw Selvedge]

It's actually best not to cook with olive oil as it isn't stable with high heat, drizzle it over your food after you cook it. The best oil to cook with is coconut oil.

Try to snack on raw almonds and walnuts if you need extra calories.

Creatine would help aswell, but if you want to add a carb powder to your pwo shake, the best would be Genr8 Vitargo S2 but it's pricey.

[DJ_Flame]

Cranked out 100 pullups today. 10x10 in less than an hour. Hell yeah.

My mom uses grapeseed oil for cooking. I read somewhere it's pretty good too.

Thumbs up to almonds and walnuts. Currently munching a handful right now.

Edited October 29, 2012 by DJ_Flame

[usher]

http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Fat.html

http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/FatComparison.html

[DJ_Flame]

Drank a liter of milk after heavy plyo + squats. come @ me 1000 cal.

[e0d9n0b5]

Drank a liter of milk after heavy plyo + squats. come @ me 1000 cal.

http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/twelve-steps-to-getting-big/

[DJ_Flame]

^Haha actually can't be too big, my training is after all to increase my sprint and vertical numbers.

[yachtrock89]

What are everybodys thoughts on pre workout meals/fasted training??? Rushed through chest/back at the gym tonight bc I got in there late and didn't eat much beforehand. It was pretty taxing and I felt exhausted afterwards kind of concerned I might have gone catabolic/burned muscle/wasted my time. I'm fucking around a little bit with IF but there is so much conflicting info out there that I'm a little skeptical, mostly bc I'm just trying to build muscle rather than lose fat at the moment.

[e0d9n0b5]

up 10lbs since beginning of september

gotta learn hook grip

[DJ_Flame]

What are everybodys thoughts on pre workout meals/fasted training??? Rushed through chest/back at the gym tonight bc I got in there late and didn't eat much beforehand. It was pretty taxing and I felt exhausted afterwards kind of concerned I might have gone catabolic/burned muscle/wasted my time. I'm fucking around a little bit with IF but there is so much conflicting info out there that I'm a little skeptical, mostly bc I'm just trying to build muscle rather than lose fat at the moment.

I just go with gut feelings. Tired before workout? Eat. No time to eat but not hungry? Screw it.

[mis]

DJ where do you lift?

[Leeacto]

up 10lbs since beginning of september

gotta learn hook grip

Hook Grip is essential to pretty much any lift where the bar is held at/below waist. I sometimes use it for deadlift, as I think my grip strength is good enough to not have 400lbs resting on two thumbs.

But for Cleans and Snatches, you should "never not" hook grip.

[wrong_move]

i can't do a hook grip on an olympic bar (short fingers...) so i try to work in farmers walks once a week when my lifts stall because of my grip

[Alex3000]

Man once I discovered the hook grip I rarely use a mixed grip on the DL. The first week or so man my thumbs were destroyed.

[e0d9n0b5]

i can't do a hook grip on an olympic bar (short fingers...) so i try to work in farmers walks once a week when my lifts stall because of my grip

my fingers don't seem to be long enough. seems fairly close, the thumb doesn't meet the first knuckle of my fingers so its not that snug though.

really enjoying oly lifts. i've been putting off going to the gym with bumper plates and mats for so long but i don't think i can any more.

[DJ_Flame]

DJ where do you lift?

My uni gym.

Have to take a week's sabbatical now b/c I screwed up my left teres minor / school projects piling up like a bitch.

Time to go back to 12% bf.

Fuck.

[DJ_Flame]

Yeah hook grip is great, deal with the pain for a week or two, watch your DL shoot up after. Still use mixed grip though for anything above 3 plates.

[julianREE]

started deadlifting today. felt really good. i started off low to try to get my form down, but i maxed out at 155 lbs x10.

also have been eating a lot more, so hoping to see some gains... been tired of being 6'1 and 165 lbs for so long..

[bfan]

first time lifting in a while and while benching noticed that my left side is now way stronger than my right. have always kinda had a problem with this but somehow the disparity grew while I was out. dumbbell exercises for a few weeks to balance it out?