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RRL, John Bull, Desert Boots, Chukkas, Perry Ellis, Zara

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thanks man, and yeah a lot of bites that ultimately become discouraged that they are not smaller. they do seem suitable for a smaller size though. i'm a 32 waist and can get them on, but not button them even though they measure 32 at the waist. i think its because they are a little narrower in the hip.

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