Sugar Cane Denim

[setterman]

Dammit I wish they made that type II jacket in a 44 or 46.  According to SE's measurements, I can almost wear the size 42 in it's raw state, the chest is just a couple inches too small. 

[Iron Horse]

Yeah it's a shame they don't go that far up; maybe TCB will?

[mondo]

1947s; I think these have been going for about a year now, but that's what I always say. They've not been worn exclusively in that time, but definitely about 3-4 days per week for the past six months. I've washed them four times or so, when they needed it. They've seen a few significant events, now that I think of it, but not of the kind I hope to repeat.

Apologies for iPhone pics.. They've come out looking a more electric blue, but they are actually pretty damn blue in the Australian summer. Too hot to wear them, hence the quick pics..

I'll try to do some proper pics another time; the focus seems poor to me, unless it's just my eyes. Anyway, you get the idea:

[MileHighEvertonian]

Something good (and unwashed ) arrived at my front door today:

 

[oomslokop]

looks great. love the thin selvedge outseam. but what is it??

[MileHighEvertonian]

^Okinawas, raw/unwashed! 

[unders]

Tad bit out of my price range but check out this beauty.

Buzz Ricksons x Sugar Cane indigo dyed A2.

[kiya]

Tad bit out of my price range but check out this beauty.

Buzz Ricksons x Sugar Cane indigo dyed A2.

 

We just got this at all the shops and it's unbelievable.  The way thing will look after some wear is going to be crazy.

[anothercaller]

Hello Suger Caners, I wondered if someone can give me a heads up on the shrinkage expected from the 2014 fit?

 

As I uderstand the waist will go about 2inches, how about the thigh and hem? Is it worth comparing to the one-wash version to see how things may be in the future?

 

Thanks!

[ironheartfan123]

Is it worth comparing to the one-wash version to see how things may be in the future?

 

yes

[cusswords]

Hello Suger Caners, I wondered if someone can give me a heads up on the shrinkage expected from the 2014 fit?

 

As I uderstand the waist will go about 2inches, how about the thigh and hem? Is it worth comparing to the one-wash version to see how things may be in the future?

 

Thanks!

 

Check the SE one wash measurements for accurate measurements. I bought the one wash from SE and the thigh and hem measurements are the same as the SE size chart after many washes. It will shrink to tagged size and the waist will give you 2" inches after a month of wear. 

[anothercaller]

Cool, thanks, just to be clear I'm looking at the raw version and was not sure which size to go for.

[FreeCharlesManson]

We just got this at all the shops and it's unbelievable.  The way thing will look after some wear is going to be crazy.

is this thing going to fade like regular denim indigo, or because it's leather would the indigo be more permanent?

[kiya]

is this thing going to fade like regular denim indigo, or because it's leather would the indigo be more permanent?

 

The indigo definitely isn't permanent, there is a sample that was worn in Japan since February that i saw in May and it looked unreal.  It was shown at the Toyo expo in Tokyo.

[whozdrew?]

Was a loooong week, having to wait for my Type II to come in from Portland. I've never had a denim jacket and I have a few questions. I'm assuming this will fit pretty well after a hot soak. Mostly concerned about the shoulders shrinking a bit too far.

 

What do you guys think? (Not sure why I didn't tuck my shirt in for the photos)

 

 

 

PS, 45 mins on hottest tap with moderate agitation should do the trick right?

[mondo]

that's exactly how a type II should fit—it will be just right after it loses some of the stiffness.  I would not soak it in water that is warmer than what it's going to be washed in down the track.  If it were mine I wouldn't bother soaking it at all; jeans, you need to know what the final fit is going to be as soon as possible.. jackets, you can determine the fit to some extent, and don't need to get all the shrinkage out just because it's potentially there.  You'll probably wash this half a dozen times over a period of years, and it's not much trouble to do it cold and by hand if you want it to remain the same size.

[BAerts]

I'm with mondo. It looks really good now. It's going to be super snug in the shoulders after an aggressive soak. However, I bought my Type II on the snug side, like this, and did a lukewarm soak. It shrunk up nicely. without being too crazy.

 

If you're wanting a lot of shrink because of the body or arms, I wouldn't worry about that. Yes, it's a boxy jacket because it's a true Type II. But once you get some wear on it, it molds really nicely and settles.

[whozdrew?]

Thanks guys. Interesting insight mondo--in terms of the washing/sizing. Seeing as this is the unwashed version, I do think I should soak in some regards as it will eventually have to touch water in its lifetime.

 

Arms are a bit long though. Shoulders are perfect, body length doesn't bother me one bit.

 

Maybe I should exchange for a 42 and hope for this fit after a hot soak? That way, I can just wash wash wash soak whatever and not have to worry about it. I mean, if the sleeves were a tiny bit shorter, this current fit would be perfect.

Edited December 8, 2015 by whozdrew?

[Sugar Mountain]

You should definitely get the jacket through a delicate wash or a soak to have the fabric and stitching bed-in. Plus, as you say the jacket will have to be washed some way down the road as well. I think you could do a 30C delicate wash with low spin and be alright in terms of shrinkage. Then the fit will be gold.

[mondo]

sleeves will get slightly shorter as fabric creases up accordion-style at the inner elbow, don't forget.. all it needs is some wearing-in, in my opinion. Plus some gentle treatment in the soak/wash department.

[ironheartfan123]

i say size up and wash..maybe that's just me.. 

[itsbenhere]

It seems like unsanforized denim jackets are even tricker to size than unsanforized jeans... I wonder if that's why most companies only sell one-wash jackets/shirts?

[whozdrew?]

I think I've just made my mind up to swap it for a 42 and throw it in hot water. I'll be in SF on Thursday anyway, and will be able to make the transaction pretty quickly. Bummer, was actually planning on breaking it in on the trip. Oh well...

[goodrain]

Arms might be too baggy if you get a 42.

[jamesmorelia]

Hi,

 

Quick question regarding SC shirt sizing, do these run small. I wear a medium pherrows for a fitted look or a large for a looser fit. Ive looked at Rakuten size charts but they vary a lot.

 

Im 72kg and 5'6.

 

Any help appreciated. 

[whozdrew?]

Type II, size 42

 

pre soak:

 

post soak and after a few days wear:

 

 

Glad I was able to hold out for a few days and swap the 40 for a 42. Well worth the wait, this thing is cool.

 

 

 

 

 

Asking for a friend: He has the Type III Black Jeans from SE and is wondering if wearing sulfur dyed jeans could be hazardous to his health. Please tell me that the rest of you think he's as crazy as I do.

[JoFo]

You made the right decision in sizing up on that jacket. I am always for getting the shrink completely out of the way in case you need to throw it back in the machine. Plus you have enough room to wear layers underneath.

[Max Power]

Sugar Cane Okinawa, another candidate I often considered but never got.

 

For my last examination I brought along some help from my niece. We agreed that the patch was outstanding.

Subtle they ain't - python patch, unique stitching, super slubby LHT denim aith an almost a bit itchy surface, coloured pocket bags.

The denim feels also a bit heavier than I'd have expected.

 

That might just on of the biggest lessons - there's a lot more variety in the 13,5-14,5 oz range in terms of stiffness and "felt" weight than I would have thought. The Denime 66XX being the heaviest of the bunch, I would have guessed 16 oz at least

 

The fit of the SC is a solid straight one, very comfy and relaxed, almost feels like wearing sweatpants.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2015 by Max Power

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