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Posted · Hidden by concept223, April 25, 2012 - No reason given
Hidden by concept223, April 25, 2012 - No reason given

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<span style="font-size: 24px;"><strong>concept223 = SCAMMER/FRAUD </strong></span><br />

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let me tell everyone why this guy is an absolute joke and why hes a scammer<br />

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the following are the actions he did:<br />

1) sent me an email out of the blue stating that he would sell me louis vuitton  jasper shoes (at this time he had no superfuture account)<br />

2) the photos he sent me were photos which were uploaded all over ioffer (which is renowned website for selling fake goods)<br />

3) tells me i have to decide within 24 hours because he has to leave the country and travel over to asia<br />

4) tells me when he arrives in asia he wont have any time to browse the internet (however, he seems to email me quite quickly whenever i send him an email?)<br />

5) i asked him to take photos of the BOX LABEL and SHOE TONGUE - as this is one method to check whether its fake or not (authentic code written on tongue)<br />

6) i said ill pay him extra money IF he takes photos of the shoe with name tags on them...however, i wanted photos of the box label and tongue again (which he does not do)<br />

7) he returns back with an email shouting and swearing at me saying hes not going to take extra photos and says im wasting his time... (tell me buyers - have you had any sellers who started yelling and going crazy at you for asking them to take extra photos of the particular item you wanted because you think its fake?...if anything a seller should feel obligated to take extra close up photos to ensure the satisfaction of the customer - therefore the customer feeling at ease when  purchasing the item)<br />

8) tells me a guy made a much higher offer then the one i put in.. yet he says he will sell it to me?? (WHAT THE HELL??!?!?!)<br />

9)) this guy finally makes a superfuture account and tries to sell the item... and uploads the exact same photos he sent me <strong><span style="font-size: 18px;">EXCEPT ONE OF THE PHOTOS HAVE BEEN EDITED WITH AUTHENTIC CODES</span></strong><br />

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for everyones interested i have uploaded the two photos on the internet<br />

<strong>THIS IS THE PHOTO HE UPLOADED ONTO SUPERFUTURE- </strong><a class="bbc_url" href="http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af323/al6unr/1.jpg" rel="nofollow external" title="External link">http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/1.jpg</a><br />

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<strong>THIS IS THE PHOTO HE SENT ME- </strong><br />

<a class="bbc_url" href="http://i1020.photobucket.com/albums/af323/al6unr/2.jpg" rel="nofollow external" title="External link">http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/2.jpg</a> (this is before he started his thread on superfuture)<br />

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<strong>as  you can see if you open the two photos up the sz6 and the authentic numbers change... one has them and one does not!!! the PHOTOS HAVE BEEN EDITED... OPEN THEM UP IN TABS AND CHANGE THEM AS ITLL GIVE YOU BEST REPRESENTATION </strong><br />

<strong>CONCEPT223 IS A SCAMMER ... DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM....</strong><br />

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<strong>IF ANYONE HAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS GUY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PRIVATE MESSAGE ME </strong><br />

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<strong>his paypal address is </strong><strong><a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> and name is LOUIS KING JR (probably will change it after i put these details up)</strong><br />

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<strong>this is his thread: </strong><a class="bbc_url" href="http://supertalk.superfuture.com/index.php?/topic/135958-louis-vuitton-x-kanye-west-collab-jaspers/page__p__2736567#entry2736567" title="">http://supertalk.sup...67#entry2736567</a><br />

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<strong>- hes written some bad stuff about me on my WTB thread...would it be possible for an admin to delete it? </strong><br />

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<div>You gonna talk shit like that for real?</div>

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<div>1. First day we had conversation I told you already I was heading to Asia for a trip so you needed to decide soon as I had to bring the shoes with me if you were going to pay. Since you were dealing with me that was my responsibility to stick with the shoes and I wouldn't leave them home and ask my girlfriend to drop them off if you're really interested (That was 6 days ago). Plus I thought there was a good opportunity to take more pics I assumed you would asked in case shoes were on my hand. Of course you did later. You asked for authenticity and all details about the shoes and sizing relevant and photos requested, I answered every single questions and showed you photos with my name and date on (without your name tag because you asked my name and date only), as you said you've been trying to be scammed on this forum. That's totally fine for me to provide infos to you as much as I could as I know you're buyer and I'm seller, I wanted my buyer to be satisfied with money their spending.</div>

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<div>2. The date before I left, you confirmed everything and we agreed on a price, we only had talk that time and you did not ask for photos, it was considered you would get the shoes off me for sure so I started packing the and stored back in the box, I sent you my paypal address and I had a nice dream that night. This was the messages we had before I off to bed.</div>

<div><a href="http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1286/con0.jpg">http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1286/con0.jpg</a></div>

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<div>3. That morning I woke up and checked email, I got 3 messages from you:</div>

<div><a href="http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4458/con1k.jpg">http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4458/con1k.jpg</a></div>

<div><a href="http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7408/con2.jpg">http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7408/con2.jpg</a></div>

<div><a href="http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9238/con3.jpg">http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9238/con3.jpg</a></div>

<div><a href="http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1641/con4d.jpg">http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1641/con4d.jpg</a></div>

<div>I was like what the.... when I saw these, should have told me earlier if you have got questions, anyway I sent you photos right away (this time with my email address, date and you superfuture ID on, because you asked)</div>

<div><a href="http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8966/con5.jpg">http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8966/con5.jpg</a></div>

<div>After you viewed the photos, I left home and off to the airport, you said you were alright to go.</div>

<div><a href="http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4081/con6o.jpg">http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4081/con6o.jpg</a></div>

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<div>4. After I arrived and was in hotel, I checked my paypal and email to see any update, I got new messages from you asking for more photos. AGAIN YOU ASKED FOR MORE PICTURES!! Ok, that's no problem since I was landed and was quite free, I took few more photos as requested.</div>

<div><a href="http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1264/con7.jpg">http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1264/con7.jpg</a></div>

<div><a href="http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6436/con8.jpg">http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6436/con8.jpg</a></div>

<div>And I got your reply after.</div>

<div><a href="http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8138/con9.jpg">http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8138/con9.jpg</a></div>

<div><a href="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/55/con10t.jpg">http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/55/con10t.jpg</a></div>

<div>Hang on!! We agreed on 900 if I showed you more pictures if tagged and this moment you wanted to get back to previous price?!!</div>

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<div>Started from that point I realized this buyer must be a fuker no matter how much I helped, I still wanted to sell the shoes surely so I promised him feel free to take to any stores to authenticated, and I accepted his return policy for 7 days if he find out anything not as described. I got his following message lastly.</div>

<div><a href="http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6128/con11.jpg">http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6128/con11.jpg</a></div>

<div>No doubt I haven't seen him making any payment yet.</div>

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<div>Have some decency man, your action not only embarrassing yourself, but a shame to online selling community. If you want everything to be perfect, don't faking sit here and go to boutique to get your stuff, this is not a chinese market that allow you to bargain, you want to get then get it, don't waste my time, you promised what you said then you got to go. I told you roaming data oversea costs a lot but here still got a lot of WIFI spots. I photoshopped the picture cause the first one didn't show the code due to light refection. Rememer I didn't disclose you that you have opened multiple accounts that attempted to get the shoes off me with lower price when I knew it, now stop pushing this up my ass, people know who is the real clown.</div>

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concept223 = SCAMMER/FRAUD

let me tell everyone why this guy is an absolute joke and why hes a scammer

the following are the actions he did:

1) sent me an email out of the blue stating that he would sell me louis vuitton jasper shoes (at this time he had no superfuture account)

2) the photos he sent me were photos which were uploaded all over ioffer (which is renowned website for selling fake goods)

3) tells me i have to decide within 24 hours because he has to leave the country and travel over to asia

4) tells me when he arrives in asia he wont have any time to browse the internet (however, he seems to email me quite quickly whenever i send him an email?)

5) i asked him to take photos of the BOX LABEL and SHOE TONGUE - as this is one method to check whether its fake or not (authentic code written on tongue)

6) i said ill pay him extra money IF he takes photos of the shoe with name tags on them...however, i wanted photos of the box label and tongue again (which he does not do)

7) he returns back with an email shouting and swearing at me saying hes not going to take extra photos and says im wasting his time... (tell me buyers - have you had any sellers who started yelling and going crazy at you for asking them to take extra photos of the particular item you wanted because you think its fake?...if anything a seller should feel obligated to take extra close up photos to ensure the satisfaction of the customer - therefore the customer feeling at ease when purchasing the item)

8) tells me a guy made a much higher offer then the one i put in.. yet he says he will sell it to me?? (WHAT THE HELL??!?!?!)

9)) this guy finally makes a superfuture account and tries to sell the item... and uploads the exact same photos he sent me EXCEPT ONE OF THE PHOTOS HAVE BEEN EDITED WITH AUTHENTIC CODES

for everyones interested i have uploaded the two photos on the internet

THIS IS THE PHOTO HE UPLOADED ONTO SUPERFUTURE- http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/1.jpg

THIS IS THE PHOTO HE SENT ME-

http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/2.jpg (this is before he started his thread on superfuture)

as you can see if you open the two photos up the sz6 and the authentic numbers change... one has them and one does not!!! the PHOTOS HAVE BEEN EDITED... OPEN THEM UP IN TABS AND CHANGE THEM AS ITLL GIVE YOU BEST REPRESENTATION

CONCEPT223 IS A SCAMMER ... DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM....

IF ANYONE HAS ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS GUY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PRIVATE MESSAGE ME

his paypal address is [email protected] and name is LOUIS KING JR (probably will change it after i put these details up)

this is his thread: http://supertalk.sup...67#entry2736567

- hes written some bad stuff about me on my WTB thread...would it be possible for an admin to delete it?

You gonna talk shit like that for real?

1. First day we had conversation I told you already I was heading to Asia for a trip so you needed to decide soon as I had to bring the shoes with me if you were going to pay. You were dealing with me so that was my responsibility to stick with the shoes and I wouldn't leave them home and ask my girlfriend to drop them off if you really interested (That was 6 days ago). Plus I thought there was a good opportunity to take more pics I assumed you would asked in case shoes were on my hand. Of course you did later. You asked for authenticity and all details about the shoes and sizing relevant and photos requested, I answered every single questions and showed you photos with my name and date on (without your name tag because you asked my name and date only), as you said you've been trying to be scammed on this forum. That's totally fine for me to assist you as I know you're buyer and I'm seller, I want my buyer to be satisfied with money their spending.

2. The date before I left, you confirmed everything and we agreed on a price, we only had talk that time and you did not ask for photos, it was considered you would get the shoes off me for sure so I started packing the shoes and stored, I sent you my paypal address and I had a nice dream that night. This was the message we had before I off to bed.

http://img341.images...1/1286/con0.jpg

3. That morning I woke up and checked email, I got 3 messages from you:

http://img9.imagesha.../4458/con1k.jpg

http://img225.images...5/7408/con2.jpg

http://img836.images...6/9238/con3.jpg

http://img11.imagesh.../1641/con4d.jpg

I was like what the.... when I saw these, should have told me earlier if you have got questions, anyway I sent you photos right away (this time with my email address, date and you superfuture ID on, because you asked)

http://img684.images...4/8966/con5.jpg

After you viewed the photos, I left home and off to the airport, you said you were ready to pay < second time I heard that.

http://img210.images.../4081/con6o.jpg

4. When I arrived at hotel, I checked my paypal and email to see any update, I got new messages from you asking for more photos. AGAIN YOU ASKED FOR MORE PICTURES!! I was landed and was quite free, I took few more photos as requested.

http://img821.images...1/1264/con7.jpg

http://img442.images...2/6436/con8.jpg

And I got your reply after.

http://img838.images...8/8138/con9.jpg

http://img138.images...8/55/con10t.jpg

Hang on!! We agreed on 900 if I showed you more pictures if tagged and that time you wanted to get back to previous price?!!

Started from that point I realized this buyer must be a fuker no matter how much I helped, I still wanted to sell the shoes surely so I promised him feel free to take to any stores to authenticated, and I accepted his return policy for 7 days if he find out anything not as described. I got his following message lastly.

http://img84.imagesh.../6128/con11.jpg

No doubt I haven't seen he making any payment yet.

Have some decency man, your action not only embarrassing yourself, but a shame to online selling. If you want everything to be perfect, don't faking sit here and go to boutique to get your stuff, this is not a chinese market that allow you to bargain and play around, you want to get then get it, don't waste my time, you promised what you said then you got to go. I told you roaming data oversea costs a lot but in here still got a lot of WIFI spots. I photoshopped the picture cause the first one didn't show the code due to light refection. Rememer I didn't disclose you that you have opened multiple accounts and attempted to get the shoes off me with lower price when I found out, now stop pushing this up my ass, people know who is the real clown.

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you edited/photoshopped your photos... please just shut your mouth and get over it....what i said dosnt matter... thank god i didnt buy off you...i cant be bothered to read your crap.....

this is all i have to say....LETS PLAY THE GAME SPOT THE DIFFERENCE

photo you uploaded- http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/1.jpg

photo you sent me-

http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/2.jpg (photo you sent me before you made an account on superfuture)

anyway, im not going to bother replying to your posts anymore.. so have fun!

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8) tells me a guy made a much higher offer then the one i put in.. yet he says he will sell it to me?? (WHAT THE HELL??!?!?!)

Indeed there are few more people offered way higher than what I offered you after I set up an account here, I gave to 12 more hours to let you decide in my very last message so no matter how much these will go for as you were the first one contacted so I kept for you.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/2425/offerd.jpg

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you edited/photoshopped your photos... please just shut your mouth and get over it....what i said dosnt matter... thank god i didnt buy off you...i cant be bothered to read your crap.....

this is all i have to say....LETS PLAY THE GAME SPOT THE DIFFERENCE

photo you uploaded- http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/1.jpg

photo you sent me-

http://i1020.photobu...23/al6unr/2.jpg (photo you sent me before you made an account on superfuture)

anyway, im not going to bother replying to your posts anymore.. so have fun!

You're good at picking up bone from an egg aren't you? statement still stands, enlarge a small thing that you discovered does not help. Like what you said there are difference between pictures, so what? If you could find the shoes exactly same with mine from ioffer or any chinese fake garage I will eat them in front of you and get a photo and post on here :laugh2:
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I have had contact with him several times, he told me the shoes where shipped 3/27.

He also promised me a receipt of the shipment, "Let me know if you've sent your payment. And confirm your address with me. Will upload a pic of the receipt once payment is withdrawn from paypal and item is sent." This never happened because "i could not get a receipt for yours alone. i did ship other stuff together so it's a combined receipt."

Just hope he's legit, and that I'll get the shoes before the 45 days limit.

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Has anyone dealt with xtrashibby?

Looks like I have to make a paypal dispute for the Prada espadrille i bought from him:(

He's not legit. He never sent the items I paid for.

I would advice you to start a dispute immediately. This guys is just unbearable too. When I offered him 400 SGD for the jeans he had, I paid him, and there was an outstanding of 0.40 SGD, then I still remember him saying "I will only ship it until I receive the full amount", then ended up never sending anything lol.

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I have had contact with him several times, he told me the shoes where shipped 3/27. He also promised me a receipt of the shipment, "Let me know if you've sent your payment. And confirm your address with me. Will upload a pic of the receipt once payment is withdrawn from paypal and item is sent." This never happened because "i could not get a receipt for yours alone. i did ship other stuff together so it's a combined receipt." Just hope he's legit, and that I'll get the shoes before the 45 days limit.

This is a load of crap. I'm in Singapore and have shipped multiple items together. The payment receipt is together (iirc) but you get a copy of the customs form you fill up in order to send the package. tracking number's on that. well, imma say don't bother being nice now and just file for the dispute/chargeback with your bank.

+ since cloudstr1f3r has confirmed xtrashibby aint legit.

good luck.

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This is a load of crap. I'm in Singapore and have shipped multiple items together. The payment receipt is together (iirc) but you get a copy of the customs form you fill up in order to send the package. tracking number's on that. well, imma say don't bother being nice now and just file for the dispute/chargeback with your bank.

+ since cloudstr1f3r has confirmed xtrashibby aint legit.

good luck.

He gave me the same load of crap. He also said that it was combined receipt with no tracking number since it's a normal airmail, but funnily how when I bought a pair of Balmain jeans last week from Singapore, a simple air mail was with tracking and registered mail. He was playing on a mind game assuring that there is 'insurance' and will refund you the money if it gets lost, that is just bull crap, I'm sure he'll refund me jack.

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In references to member: Vinest / Cody Leeder of Egocomplex

basic tshirt

label: damir doma

season: spring/summer 2010

code: pre production sample

materials: cotton

condition: nwot

price: $95

black 46 (7)

not to mention he was selling this for $40 before... as 2 different users, and from what I've read it's not a DD sample it's a sample of his own shirts.. Sorry Cody, you should try being a lot more honest and follow the rules of the forums you use.

yah I had to file a dispute because its all bullshit, hes selling shit as damir doma when its his crappy egocomplex stuff.

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Guest vinest

complete bullshit. i can pull many many references who have purchased these units from me, and who have actually requested if i had more due to the quality of the garments, which are none other than dd pre-production units. i work with the supplier myself, and to accuse me of selling fake shit is rediculous. i have over 400 satisfied customers who would say that i sell nothing but authentic garments.

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Rep for Cody/egocomplex/vinest. He's never done wrong by me.

I preordered a couple DD Silent items ad received exactly what I ordered.

There were some delays on the DD side and when Cody mistakenly forgot to send me one item, I emailed him and he promptly sent it out the next day.

No problems with him.

(though it probably helps to not switch usernames)

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I can post all PMs of mine screenshoted where he deceptively advertised egocomplex goods as "damir doma pre-production items"

tired of this guy, had to wait a month to get my money back cuz he actually tried to see if paypal would rule in his favor. So, this refund stuff is all bullshit, cuz he's trying to capitalize on people who don't know any better.

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Guest vinest

i've made purchases from cody/vinest before and never had any problems, he's totally legit and a good dude.

I've bought from cody via ego complex before. perfectly legit silent. no problems.

... as far as I'm concerned this guy is TOTALLY LEGIT; I've ordered L&F and Silent from him multiple times w/o any problems. I don't know how people can question this guy since he has placed so many orders for reputable members... People should give this guy some respect. I would order from him again w/o hesitation.

i've purchased from him a couple of times and had a flawless transaction

At the behest of Cody, I've been asked for a testimonial to vouch for the veracity of some of his wares. I don't know about other peoples purchasing experiences with Cody are, but I too was initially skeptical until I received my Lost & Found order from him. I got a spectacular piece from him and it is no fake, you can't fake the details of Ria Dunn's dyeing techniques unless your name is Boris or Issei.

Legit Seller!

I was a participant of the DD Silent group buy and besides a production delay (by DD, not ego/Cody) everything went basically as planned.

Cody mistakenly forgot to send me one of the shirts, so I simply emailed him - he corrected his mistake and sent it out the next day.

He's legit.

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sup sufu, i recently sold an a.p.c. tee and s2a buttondown to user hellome (based in singapore). due to a gross oversight on my part, i somehow failed to notice some yellowing around the collar of the s2a shirt before shipment, and so hellome has requested a refund. i offered him a full refund for the item based on the following terms and would appreciate any opinions on the matter, as i'm definitely not trying to rip anyone off here.

hellome wants $55--$40 for the s2a shirt and $15 to cover shipping. seeing as i listed the items at two different values in my thread, it doesn't make sense to simply "split" the cost evenly. he simply didn't pay $40 for the shirt, so i don't see why i should refund him for more than he actually paid.

of hellome's $80 total payment, $16 went toward international shipping, leaving a total combined cost of $64 for the s2a shirt and a.p.c. tee. as $64 is 20% less than my original total asking price of $80 (as listed in my thread, subtracting $5 from each listed price to account for shipping within the us), we can use this figure to deduce the exact actual value of each item.

using the previously mentioned 20% as a guideline, the items are priced as follows:

$45 = my listed price of a.p.c. tee

minus 20%:

$36 = hellome's total cost for a.p.c. tee

$35 = my listed price of s2a shirt

minus 20%:

$28 = hellome's total cost for s2a shirt (stained and all)

here's how it looks in the most simple terms:

$36 (a.p.c. tee)

+

$28 (s2a shirt)

=

$64 (hellome's total cost for garments)

+

$16 (shipping to singapore)

=

$80 (hellome's total payment)

so, that being said, would it be unreasonable to suggest a refund of $44 ($28 for the shirt, plus $16 for shipping)? he seems to be completely ignoring my reasoning, suggesting instead that each item was equally priced at $40 ($32, plus an inclusive shipping fee of $8). i fail to see how this computes, as i paid $16 to ship the items together and it would have cost me $16 regardless of whether it was one item or two. any insight on the matter would be appreciated.

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Hidden by _untitled, May 10, 2012 - No reason given

Bought and received a Zam Barret bag from user cddh. He stated the bag was in as new and unused condition (with only small scuffs at the base of the bag) and had stock pictures of the bag in black. He made no mention of the actual colour of the item, I'll give him that, but you'd assume it was black from the pictures he used.

Anyhow what I received was a used green leather bag. The leather has scuff marks, grazes and even tears iso as new and unused is utter BS along with the fact its fucking green, not black. I would never have paid what I did for the bag or even bought it to begin with.

Hes not replying to pm's, I do intend to keep the bag, but I'm pissed I paid that much for it and about being very mislead in regard to the condition and obviously the colour.

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hi sufu members, please take a look at the two crappy items this seller denpatou sent me.

Anw, heres the conversation :

hellome:

sent 22 april 2012 - 06:53 pm

hi, sorry for the late reply. whats the condition like for both the s2a white shirt as well as the apc t-shirt ?? any holes, stains, rips or flaws like that ??

many thanks !

denpatou:

sent 22 april 2012 - 10:16 pm

literally, i've worn them both twice. no tears, holes, stains, or anything like that.

thanks,

dave

now look at the pictures, really really bad seller here, not even wanting to cover the shipping when its hismistake of totally incorrect description :

firstly his s2a shirt :

IMG_0466.jpg?t=1336658257

IMG_0464.jpg?t=1336658230

now lets look at item number two : (apc t-shirt ) look at the armpits !

IMG_0475.jpg?t=1336658298

IMG_0477.jpg?t=1336658233

haha someone please advise me one this, seller should be refunding ??

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JCMStyles - bought a pair of rayban aviators from him on the 7th of May. he invoiced me and i paid immediately, and then i requested he send me tracking details etc when shipped. pm'ed him again yesterday and he still has not replied. His last login was yesterday at 8.37pm. anyone deal with this guy before? advice as to whether it is appropriate to open a paypal dispute yet or should i give him more time?

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