fake selvedge

[giantreptile]

i've begun to see fake selvege jeans pop up in stores, namely karren millen (saw while waiting for my girl to browse). does this signify the beginning of selvege look being the next whiskered look? i mean, hell, if j crew is doing it now...

what will denim fiends latch onto next to stay ahead?

[darknworn]

Quote: what will denim fiends latch onto next to stay ahead?

sans trousers!

"God is Dead" - Neitzsche

"Neitzsche is Dead" - God

[triniboy27]

I was actually gonna mention something about this earlier...a lot of the jeans i'm seeing these days are doing coloured overstitching (at least, that's what i think it is) to mimick the selvedge look...club monaco's actually doing a dark denim jean with purple/red overstitching and coloured rivets...actually looks kinda nice, but I think i'll stick to real selvedge..

Edited by triniboy27 on Jul 15, 2005 at 11:08 AM

[mrmax]

Is it obvious, just by looking, to spot a fake selvedge do you think? I wanna be able to give people dirty looks

[Yakboy Equals Nurturer]

Not unless you can see the inseam. Why care about what others are wearing anyway?

[Corbin Law]

well maybe some people here take pride in the fact that the denim their wearing can kick all other J crew/true religion/shit denim's asses, and when shit denim trys to be all big and tough you lose the magic that you once affiliated with your jeans.

chwa?

[Ryan]

lollerskates

[wild_whiskey]

I'm with Yakboy (as usual) on this one - who cares what other people are wearing? Good style is good style because you rock it well, not because everyone else's sucks.

[hahnstch]

what do you mean by fake selvage? are you referring to super dense overlocked stitch to disguise the frayed ends of the outseam?

[Geowu]

yes, hahnstch, that's what we're talking about.

I don't think it is so much about faking selvedge, since it is obvious to tell they are not real, even from several meters away. Instead, I think they are just trying to duplicate the clean look that a selvage outseam has.

[wild_whiskey]

I've also seen dark blue chain stitching to cover the frays, then a vertical chainstitch of one color up each side.

[Cue]

it's running wild, from what i have seen - looks really bad - very puffy

not seen it on men's pants - only birds

[Paul T]

Has no one apart from me seen full-on fake selvage? IE a strip sewed on to a busted seam? I've seen it on some H&M jeans. Looked pretty cool, actually, especailly given the price...

[wild_whiskey]

I saw a Marc Jacobs jean jacket with satin sewn over the seams on the inside.

[super]

Speaking of Marc Jacobs, I walked into the SF store today, found a nice knit shirt, and checked the price only to find that it was over $900! Damn....

I saw some fake selvage on Haight today but it looked pretty real. Not until you got up close to the model with the jeans on can you tell it was fake.

[hahnstch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8318881199&category=57989&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

superb...

[darknworn]

i'm actually rather partial to diesel's take on the outseams' finishes. they look like selvage from a distance, but upon closer inspection turn out to be just very well finished seams (w/ red threads). i think other than the outright fraud selvage Paul mentioned, these aren't bad afterall if they don't represent themselves as selvage jeans.

here's a sample from an old pair of diesel kratt

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[darknworn]

Quote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8318881199&category=57989&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

superb...

--- Original message by hahnstch on Jul 15, 2005 06:06 PM

damn, you beat me to it.

"God is Dead" - Neitzsche

"Neitzsche is Dead" - God

[andewhall]

I think some of these Brands are not trying to fake a selvage as such, more using a busted seam for effect. Probably more on Womens Jeans it gives a flatter seam on the outside, not by much. Just a thought.

[deim23]

Quote:

I think some of these Brands are not trying to fake a selvage as such, more using a busted seam for effect. Probably more on Womens Jeans it gives a flatter seam on the outside, not by much. Just a thought.

--- Original message by andewhall on Jul 15, 2005 06:37 PM

Exactally right - i dont think the look is "faux selvedge" per say, rather a more finished look for womens jeans for the current trend of 12'' turnups. looks nicer than a rough chainstitch staring up at you like, someone said, "the satans sphinctor"?? lol

"Today's peacock tomorrow's feather duster. "

Edited by deim23 on Jul 15, 2005 at 10:31 PM

[Geowu]

to me these overlock stitchings still look like the satans sphinctor.

[darknworn]

wow, you guys are much more experience and i am. i've never seen satan's sphincter...does it stink???

"God is Dead" - Neitzsche

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[Serge d Nimes]

I really hate the faux capri look with 12" turn-ups, it is even worse when chix are wearing flared jeans!

Carpe Denim!

[andewhall]

I saw bird the other day with huge turn ups and they had pink bias binding over the seam that matched pocket detail etc. I must admit it looked better than the over locked busted seam

[aitsuka]

I thought selvedge meant high quality, so fake ones means regular jeans?

-don't hate, appreciate-

[Geowu]

probably but not necessarily..

[skecr8r]

Some very high quality jeans are produced without the selvage, e.g. if you have a yard of selvage denim and you cut from the selvage and 1 inch into the fabric, you would still be left with the selvage denim just without the selvage. Follow me?

MAD YOUNG MAN

[showbiz00ditc]

would you guys consider the half selvedge some brands are doing these days fake?

[skecr8r]

The 'half-selvage' is not by any means 'fake'.

Both Lee and Wrangler did this back from the earliest productions to the latest one to be produced with the genuine selvage.

MAD YOUNG MAN

[Paul T]

I've just seen some more fake selvage in Urban Outfitters. These were True Religion womens pants, which have the normal busted outseam, but with pink strips stitched to the outside edges, to approximate a thick pink selvage line.