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I did like my N-1 but they’re just impractical, perfect for what they’re designed for, standing onboard the deck of a cold ship.. but start moving around and you sweat like crazy, especially where the fur meets your neck.. you end up unbuttoned them to let the heat out, not ideal when it’s raining.. but like much of this mil-repro, it’s ideal for playing dress up, but doesn’t stand up against modern materials when you actually use it.

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I wear my FW N-1 through the colder months.  It's warm which is what I need for watching football or being down the track with my lad on cold days and nights in the north, or even going for a winter walk around the park.  Undoubtedly it has its limitations - it's a heavy beast of a jacket so it's never going to be ideal for walking up mountains compared to built-for-purpose mountain gear, for example... but I like it and find it useful... so in answer to your question @fabes I still wear mine

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Mines not an overly expensive one but still gets wear 10 plus years after purchasing.

Agreed though on limited functionality... great in the cold but not in the cold and rain..

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Wore my FW N-1 when we were in London and Paris in ‘23-‘24, got completely drenched on a day trip to Oxford and it held up just fine. There are definitely other materials that are better designed for the rain, but I didn’t have any issues. I just let the jacket dry out overnight at the hotel and I was good to go the next day. Mine doesn’t get a ton of extended use since I live in a warm climate but I enjoy wearing it when I can.

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I didn't mean they don't hold up in the rain.. i actually think they're ok at keeping the water out.

12 hours ago, Double 0 Soul said:

.. but start moving around and you sweat like crazy, especially where the fur meets your neck.. you end up unbuttoned them to let the heat out, not ideal when it’s raining..

What i meant was.. walking around in a hot sweaty jacket with zero breathability, you have to open the buttons to let the heat out but if it's raining (as it often is here during jacket season) your sweater gets wet which makes the moisture issue worse.. :D

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For sure, it's by no means the most practical style of jacket in modern times.
I think if I lived in a climate where I had to deal with that much rain and cold I'd probably opt for something a little more functionally focused.

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1 minute ago, Maynard Friedman said:

^ You probably have that scenario covered anyway! 🤣

You'd think so, right? 😮‍💨

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I appreciate the responses. I’ve liked the look of the N1s for a bit now, but this one might be best to admire from a distance. If I’m out in the cold for any duration I’m typically doing something active and the layering approach works just fine. I could see a reason for it at a sporting event or something minimally active. Not in a rush and wanted to see how other people liked or didn’t like them. 

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10 hours ago, Broark said:

For sure, it's by no means the most practical style of jacket in modern times.
I think if I lived in a climate where I had to deal with that much rain and cold I'd probably opt for something a little more functionally focused.

Sounds like the perfect weather for Barbour. ;)

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33 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Oh ok.. not the reality then? :D

:tongue:

Joking aside, it's a really good functional winter jacket, 

With the hood attached, I don't really need an umbrella when walking through rain.

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They’re not a warm jacket tho.. in fact, they make you feel quite cold and a bit clammy, hence why folks used to wear those thick knitted sweaters underneath.. ideal for Autumn here in the UK.
 

15 or so years ago, I had a Barbour, a Belstaff and a Mulholland.. then Barbour went through a massive revival here in the UK.. you would see entire families of Barbour wearers walking through the park.. mum, dad, kids.. all wearing Barbour, often with Hunter wellies.. invariably with a Labrador who would also wearing a Barbour doggy coat..  like Madonna and Guy Richey trying way too hard to be British.. the terraces were full of it which was the final nail in the coffin for me so I sold the lot.. now it’s just folks trying to project the country look like Farage or diehard sloanies.

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I have an older FW deck jacket that’s more of a ‘what if’ than a repro model (same as This one). Its lighter oz duck canvas rather than deck cloth and no interlining that the FW N-1s have so not quite as warm and I’ve gotten a lot of use out of it. Definitely not gathering dust. Sure it isn’t the last word in breathability but it’s fine. If I was that worried about fabric performance I probably wouldn’t wear denim all day 😄 My only gripe with it is it’s been more prone to stitching breakdown than my other FW stuff.

I never owned one but suspect tanker jackets with the melton lining rather than deck jacket alpaca are probably more year round usable too.

 

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23 minutes ago, Lorcan said:

  I never owned one but suspect tanker jackets with the melton lining rather than deck jacket alpaca are probably more year round usable too.

 

I have the 1942 1st pattern deck jacket (zipper version) which is very similar to the tanker jackets insomuch as it's jungle cloth outer with  the melton wool liner. Bonus detail is the acetate lining sandwiched in between the two which acts as a waterproofing.  Warm up to a point although the non-lined pockets aren't warm at all.

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44 minutes ago, Lorcan said:

Sure it isn’t the last word in breathability but it’s fine. If I was that worried about fabric performance I probably wouldn’t wear denim all day 😄

 

Yeah.. but I’m sure denim is more breathable than animal fur.. i’mean, we see @Broark wearing double denim in 40 degree heat, rarely do we see him in a 3/4 length grizzly, fox stole and coyote lined trapper hat.

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47 minutes ago, Dr_Heech said:

I have the 1942 1st pattern deck jacket (zipper version) which is very similar to the tanker jackets insomuch as it's jungle cloth outer with  the melton wool liner. Bonus detail is the acetate lining sandwiched in between the two which acts as a waterproofing.  Warm up to a point although the non-lined pockets aren't warm at all.

I always wondered if versions with the acetate layer made them sweatier or not much different. I like the hook clasp ones a lot. Been tempted by the Buzz iteration before.
 

29 minutes ago, Double 0 Soul said:

Yeah.. but I’m sure denim is more breathable than animal fur.. i’mean, we see @Broark wearing double denim in 40 degree heat, rarely do we see him in a 3/4 length grizzly, fox stole and coyote lined trapper hat.

Alpaca wool is apparently twice as  moisture wicking as merino and maybe not as bad a choice in warmer temperatures as you’d think. okay sandwiched with a couple other layers in a deck jacket it’s not ideal in 40 degrees!  but thinner wool/merino base layers in warmer weather isn’t actually that stupid for temperature regulation 

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Wicks it to where tho..?

Yep, I’m a massive fan of the merino base, I’ve been wearing Woolpower for years.. just not a fan of sweating my ass off in an N1, it’s less to do with the wicking ability of Alpaca and more to do with the heat they generate when you’re active.. I had the same issue with my Woolrich arctic parka.. great standing still, terrible while moving.

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1 hour ago, Maynard Friedman said:

^ I’m sure he owns those items though, y’know, just in case…

One of these days I'm going to move to a cold climate just to show y'all. :laugh:

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I have a couple N-1 jackets -- RMC and Iron Heart.  The former is beautiful, but the latter is more practical, with the fur in the right places (pockets but not sleeves).  Had the FW before the IH, but sold it (arms too narrow).  As you've all said, an N-1 is very warm, like a blanket with buttons.

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