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On 10/19/2019 at 5:22 AM, lefty said:

Who makes (semi) regular production jeans with a cloth, paper or other non-leather patch, and no leather washers or pocket reinforced edges, etc. 

I know Roy has done it twice (that I know of), but who knows what he’ll do next. 

I second the 60's recommendation.  I have the TCB 60's and love them.  If you've never ordered from denimio, you can get them for about $140 with the first timer discount. 

If you want a modern cut, I think that Naked and Famous will replace the leather patch on any of their jeans with a vegan patch of you order through Tate and Yoko and request it when you place the order.  I'd email to ask first. 

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A Vegan patch to replace a leather one?

Now that is funny.

What about the right to live for all those cotton plants that were mercilessly cut down and mutilated for the sake of fancy britches?

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@Pedro To a lot of people, it's not a laughing matter at all.  Why make fun of someone because they care about animals? 

Are you seriously equating the life of a cow with cotton plants? 

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I don’t want anyone to replace a leather patch. I don’t want a leather patch in the first place. 

I’ve got 2 jackets and a pair of blacksmiths from RS with damn nice cloth patches and I there’s a nice pair of blue blankets that might be for me. 
 

I’ll look more at the tcbs. Thanks for that suggestion.  I hadn’t been paying much attention to that make. 

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The TCB 50s also have a paper patch.

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The OA02 from Ooe also have a paper patch.

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Unfortunately the new model for S&S does not. Are the 02’s still available anywhere? 

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Railcar fine goods offers a vegan patch option for all jeans. 
Left Field Workwear line have fabric patch like carhartt

 

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@lefty watch out next week, S&S is releasing some 02’s (along with the cinch 01’s, but I believe those will have a leather patch) for their Santa Fe store opening this weekend. They’ll likely put some up online as well.

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@lefty although '60s pairs have already been mentioned as a non-leather option I always like to suggest Resolute 710 jeans in this instance ;) orSlow's jeans aren't bad either

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8 hours ago, kicks79 said:

@Pedro To a lot of people, it's not a laughing matter at all.  Why make fun of someone because they care about animals? 

Are you seriously equating the life of a cow with cotton plants? 

I was not making fun of people. I was laughing at the idea of shipping fancy britches off to a foreign land to have a patch replaced as a complete waste of limited earth resources. BTW, what do they do with the leather one? Throw it away? Or repurpose it? Great example of a First World Problem.

And for the record, yes, I do not differentiate between living organisms. I think a tree/plant is no different from a bovine or a human.

I find such prejudice (that some living organisms do not matter) offensive and it sounds like you are criticizing my belief that I care about all living things. Are you making fun of me?  Lol

And I agree with the poster above about cloth patches being quite brilliant. My favorite patch is the old white Levis patch found on the 201s.

 

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6 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

The TCB 50s also have a paper patch.

The slim 50's have a leather patch, though. 

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Probably better to just let the conversation move on at this point, but in stead I'm gonna throw my hat in the ring agreeing that it's silly as hell to treat animal life as being somehow inherently more worthwhile / more sacred than plant or fungal life. We're better at relating to cows than we are at relating to trees, but that doesn't give us any less of a "right" or whatever you want to call it to kill them. We kill trees 'cause their fibers make good packaging, just like we kill cows 'cause their meat tastes good; trying to justify either is moot.

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I was also going to ask about loopwheel vs sinker weave, but it will probably end with someone arguing that colonial slavery doesn’t hold a candle to modern human trafficking.
 

Accusations will be made on both sides. Feelings will be hurt.  
Some will answer the question and wonder why an issue that wasn’t raised by the question had somehow become such a point of contention.

Civil war may ensue. 

...so I’ll just leave that for another day. 

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Looking to pick up a sweatshirt for the upcoming autumn/winter. What are your favorites (or least favorites)? Buzz Rickson's seem to be a good value and I know The Real McCoy's are quite well-regarded, but I'd like to explore more options before committing.

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RMC, Strike Gold, the Samurai one I got last year is great too.

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Least fave is lvc for sure. Super long arms and quite flimsy. Canadian Reigning champ makes a really sturdy one and I also love my Loopwheeler. Interested in trying Cushman myself.

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SDA also has good sweatshirts.

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Super pretty fabric, but spending that much on jeans just for the fabric just doesn’t make sense. The whole thing’s out of balance—it’s like if Roy started making jeans from the fabric Levi’s uses for modern-day Walmart 501s. Good fabric deserves good construction, and good construction deserves good fabric.

I’ve got nothing against Gustin as a company, but releases like these or like the various $300+ N&F jeans made using world-class denim with the same standard construction and detailing 100% do not make sense to me.

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Gustin's cuts are too slim for me, but that fabric is lovely. I have several of their shirts. They're nice.

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The fabric is interesting. I don't like Gustin's details. Selvedge on the belt loop...come on
Can't comment on their fits or construction though.

Don't like the rivets at all

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10 hours ago, julian-wolf said:

 Good fabric deserves good construction, and good construction deserves good fabric.

Well said.

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Heading to Amsterdam soon and wondering if there are any denim/apparel/vintage shops worth checking out other than Tenue de Nîmes. 

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Maritime Antiques Link

I don’t think it was open when I was there, but Ckx studio also looks great 

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