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3 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

^ I agree with Niro. Neither LVC nor Resolute are slubby and Pure Blue Japan sounds like what you're looking for. May also be worth considering Samurai or The Strike Gold. Please don't ask us which cuts though!

Strike Gold and PBJ won't work for me because they don't make a cut with a high enough rise. The Samurai 710xx is in my radar but I'm afraid they'll be too heavy.

Are the Warehouse lot 800s considered pretty slubby? They are noticeably slubbier than my resoltues and LVC, but I'm not sure how they rank.

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What about the Samurai S0510XX or S0500XX? Both between 14 and 15 oz.

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They are at 15.6oz ;)

But yeah, the S0500XX is the slimmer one of those two

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I stand corrected XD I thought I remembered a 14 oz. Texas cotton version of one them though? Might be my mind playing tricks on me.

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I'd like a recommendation for a nice chore coat, in order of preference brown hickory, indigo hickory or wabash, or indigo. It's actually to do gardening, etc, so ruggedness & value > style. Thank you!

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For value, perhaps look at Pointer Brand; they're made in USA but reasonably priced.

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I reckon you might be able to find a used Sassafras coat on Rakuten for not too much. Iron Horse is right that Pointer Brand is going to be much cheaper regardless, but Sassafras is up there construction- and materials-wise with some of the best Japanese brands, with incredibly creative patterning and design to boot.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kind-u/item/575317001998/

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/auc-life-sendai/item/170430747h0035sn33/

I also saw a couple of nice duck chore coats this afternoon at a vintage shop in Seattle if you'd like me to grab measurements of them for you.

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3 hours ago, chicote said:

I reckon you might be able to find a used Sassafras coat on Rakuten for not too much. Iron Horse is right that Pointer Brand is going to be much cheaper regardless, but Sassafras is up there construction- and materials-wise with some of the best Japanese brands, with incredibly creative patterning and design to boot.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kind-u/item/575317001998/

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/auc-life-sendai/item/170430747h0035sn33/

and sassafras is indeed gardening themed...

i am great fan of post overalls, but he renders the chore more delicate, not more rugged...

and what of filson for authentic outdoors-ism? not so chore based, but... i say this as they serve as the basis of much post overalls design

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I'd go with a french chore coat that you can pick up either vintage or from Arpenteur, Vetra etc. If it's good enough for Monty Don, it should be good enough for any gardener :)

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Any recommendations on jeans in the 1890-1930 style? The only ones I know of are the new LVC 501XX 1890 and the TCB's 20's.

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On 12 June 2017 at 8:30 PM, JDelage said:

I'd like a recommendation for a nice chore coat, in order of preference brown hickory, indigo hickory or wabash, or indigo. It's actually to do gardening, etc, so ruggedness & value > style. Thank you!

here is the post overalls blog, mostly sharing to show the range of vintage chore jackets he has in his collection from osh gosh to can't bust 'em via hercules...

http://www.postoveralls.com/blog/

but in full agreement about french coat also

and tbh when I garden, it is the bib overalls for me...

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22 hours ago, sk8eddie said:

Any recommendations on jeans in the 1890-1930 style? The only ones I know of are the new LVC 501XX 1890 and the TCB's 20's.

if I was on 4chan I would recommend yee to lurk moar

but In this regard I am interested too…

I feel a little too green to post the response to such a question (which demands a real thorough knower to stump up), but here are some (tbh most found from denimbro browsing – the real archaeologists of turn of the century wear):

 

Oee did an amazing 1890 hercules (a denim bruin special, now sold out, but interesting for reference)

https://standardandstrange.com/products/hercules-overall-denim-125-years-finish-lot-0716

 

a link Fried-san has posted many times on the db leepro thread:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=120

and the lee japan options

http://www.lee-japan.jp/archives/

blue blanket offers some nice examples:

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/P08/

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/IJ1/

 

rising sun have these turn-o-the century themed beasts

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/blacksmith-raw

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/powerhouse-chino-ind-raw

micheal harris wrote the book on the pre-1890 history and competing brands alongside levis

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Jeans-Old-West-Michael-Harris/0764335006

then…

basically all good Japanese repro brands should be knocking out a lot of 1920s onwards models

ie

http://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=103088279

 

happy digging...

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1 hour ago, bartlebyyphonics said:

 

if I was on 4chan I would recommend yee to lurk moar

but In this regard I am interested too…

I feel a little too green to post the response to such a question (which demands a real thorough knower to stump up), but here are some (tbh most found from denimbro browsing – the real archaeologists of turn of the century wear):

 

Oee did an amazing 1890 hercules (a denim bruin special, now sold out, but interesting for reference)

https://standardandstrange.com/products/hercules-overall-denim-125-years-finish-lot-0716

 

a link Fried-san has posted many times on the db leepro thread:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=120

 

and the lee japan options

http://www.lee-japan.jp/archives/

 

blue blanket offers some nice examples:

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/P08/

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/IJ1/

 

rising sun have these turn-o-the century themed beasts

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/blacksmith-raw

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/powerhouse-chino-ind-raw

 

micheal harris wrote the book on the pre-1890 history and competing brands alongside levis

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Jeans-Old-West-Michael-Harris/0764335006

 

then…

basically all good Japanese repro brands should be knocking out a lot of 1920s onwards models

ie

http://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=103088279

 

happy digging...

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, the book is on its way to me since two days ago. Then I shall go and lurk some more!

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Looks like shit to me 

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All the same, this jacket is fake?
If you look at the buttons, the back patch and the top tag, they look like the original + there is a specific edge.
But I am confused by the fact that the size is not indicated by a number and the lower tag is very strange.
I saw on the internet jackets with a similar patch in the form of flowers, but specifically such as I have in the photo, I did not find.
This jacket got to me by chance, before the things of this brand I did not have, so I can not determine the authenticity.
It is possible more in detail, by what criteria it is clear that this is a fake?

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On 6/18/2017 at 0:41 PM, keybladehero said:

does levi's have a line that make better jeans than LVC? 

what do you mean "better"?

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12 hours ago, dau said:

what do you mean "better"?

like newer and better fabric. During 1850-1966 period Levi's didn't bother abt reproduction and have been focusing on making new fabrics. Now LVC is set up to reproduce selvedge fabric and jeans of that period which is clearly more superior than the normal Levi's now. So I been wondering if they ever thought about making something new and more superior than LVC,

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I'm not really sure if this answers your question, but I've read somewhere (probably here) that LVC is not profitable and predominantly a labor of love for Levi's designers. I reckon it's not profitable in part because the high-end jeans market is already pretty well-saturated, and its customers might have something particular or specialized in mind when looking for a pair of jeans that goes beyond another pair of Levi's. It's one of the reasons LVC is often sold at such steep discounts at the end of each season, I'd imagine. So, going back to your question, I don't think that establishing another high-end sub-brand is really on Levi's radar, and doubt that it would ever be competitive if it existed.

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The other high-end sub-brand that Levi's currently has is its more modern Made & Crafted label.

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12 hours ago, chicote said:

I'm not really sure if this answers your question, but I've read somewhere (probably here) that LVC is not profitable and predominantly a labor of love for Levi's designers. I reckon it's not profitable in part because the high-end jeans market is already pretty well-saturated, and its customers might have something particular or specialized in mind when looking for a pair of jeans

IMHO, LVC would be a lot more popular if they set their starting retail prices more reasonably, and then worked with Cone to come up with some more interesting fabrics on par with the Japanese. I mean, $400 for a triple pleat jacket? $285 for a sawtooth denim shirt? $88 for a Uniqlo-quality T-shirt? Maybe some of their customers have more money than sense and LVC depends on that, but I just get the feeling they would move more units if they were more competitive. 

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5 hours ago, Iron Horse said:

IMHO, LVC would be a lot more popular if they set their starting retail prices more reasonably, and then worked with Cone to come up with some more interesting fabrics on par with the Japanese. I mean, $400 for a triple pleat jacket? $285 for a sawtooth denim shirt? $88 for a Uniqlo-quality T-shirt? Maybe some of their customers have more money than sense and LVC depends on that, but I just get the feeling they would move more units if they were more competitive. 

I'm very much on board with this, I don't own any LVC because I find it a tad boring for the price.
If they brought their prices down a little and made their denim a little more interesting from time to time I'd be more intrigued.
Let's not forget the $495 mirror jeans either. <_<

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22 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

The other high-end sub-brand that Levi's currently has is its more modern Made & Crafted label.

I took a brief look at made & crafted label and it gave me an impression the overall quality still lower than LVC. sigh...

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I need to buy a pair of shoes that  I can wear in semi formal occasions when it's very warm here in Italy, and that I can wear with no socks.

I had used for years a pair of Sanders tassel loafers in the past but they're so worn, used and abused at the moment that I don't really know if it's worth to resole them, insoles are destroyed, upper is completely discolored etc etc.

Not really the kind of stuff I enjoy the most to wear, but I need a pair for these occasions. I think I'd go for a classic pair of penny loafers this time. Any tips for something good, not overly expensive and wide? Alden are definitely out of budget, not enough a fan of Ivy Style to consider spending that budget on a pair of shoes I'd only wear for work.

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How about Bass Weejuns?  Affordable,  bit of history, will last ages with the type of wear you'll put into them?

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that was the first thing I've thought, but I'm having a hard time finding what I like. on ebay they either sell a cognac color or a burgundy, not dark brown which would be my choice.

I would use these shoes when I work at my festival, on concert days, basically I stand up and walk here and there for about 10/12 hrs in the historical centre of an old village, the pavement is all cobblestones.

 

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Good call Geeman, Sebago used to make decent loafers too. I'm sure Volvo would prefer some gaudy moc-croc Gucci ones though! :rolleyes:

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