SUPERDENIM SMALL QUESTIONS THREAD (Use instead of making new threads)

[sk8eddie]

1 hour ago, bartlebyyphonics said:

 

if I was on 4chan I would recommend yee to lurk moar

but In this regard I am interested too…

I feel a little too green to post the response to such a question (which demands a real thorough knower to stump up), but here are some (tbh most found from denimbro browsing – the real archaeologists of turn of the century wear):

 

Oee did an amazing 1890 hercules (a denim bruin special, now sold out, but interesting for reference)

https://standardandstrange.com/products/hercules-overall-denim-125-years-finish-lot-0716

 

a link Fried-san has posted many times on the db leepro thread:

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=120

 

and the lee japan options

http://www.lee-japan.jp/archives/

 

blue blanket offers some nice examples:

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/P08/

http://www.blueblanketjeans.com/en/IJ1/

 

rising sun have these turn-o-the century themed beasts

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/blacksmith-raw

https://shop.risingsunjeans.com/collections/pants/products/powerhouse-chino-ind-raw

 

micheal harris wrote the book on the pre-1890 history and competing brands alongside levis

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Books/Jeans-Old-West-Michael-Harris/0764335006

 

then…

basically all good Japanese repro brands should be knocking out a lot of 1920s onwards models

ie

http://www.ware-house.co.jp/?pid=103088279

 

happy digging...

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, the book is on its way to me since two days ago. Then I shall go and lurk some more!

Edited June 14, 2017 by sk8eddie

[Puttin]

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Edited June 25, 2017 by Puttin

[edmond]

Looks like shit to me 

[Puttin]

All the same, this jacket is fake?
If you look at the buttons, the back patch and the top tag, they look like the original + there is a specific edge.
But I am confused by the fact that the size is not indicated by a number and the lower tag is very strange.
I saw on the internet jackets with a similar patch in the form of flowers, but specifically such as I have in the photo, I did not find.
This jacket got to me by chance, before the things of this brand I did not have, so I can not determine the authenticity.
It is possible more in detail, by what criteria it is clear that this is a fake?

[keybladehero]

does levi's have a line that make better jeans than LVC? 

[dau]

On 6/18/2017 at 0:41 PM, keybladehero said:

does levi's have a line that make better jeans than LVC? 

what do you mean "better"?

[keybladehero]

12 hours ago, dau said:

what do you mean "better"?

like newer and better fabric. During 1850-1966 period Levi's didn't bother abt reproduction and have been focusing on making new fabrics. Now LVC is set up to reproduce selvedge fabric and jeans of that period which is clearly more superior than the normal Levi's now. So I been wondering if they ever thought about making something new and more superior than LVC,

[chicote]

I'm not really sure if this answers your question, but I've read somewhere (probably here) that LVC is not profitable and predominantly a labor of love for Levi's designers. I reckon it's not profitable in part because the high-end jeans market is already pretty well-saturated, and its customers might have something particular or specialized in mind when looking for a pair of jeans that goes beyond another pair of Levi's. It's one of the reasons LVC is often sold at such steep discounts at the end of each season, I'd imagine. So, going back to your question, I don't think that establishing another high-end sub-brand is really on Levi's radar, and doubt that it would ever be competitive if it existed.

[Maynard Friedman]

The other high-end sub-brand that Levi's currently has is its more modern Made & Crafted label.

[Iron Horse]

12 hours ago, chicote said:

I'm not really sure if this answers your question, but I've read somewhere (probably here) that LVC is not profitable and predominantly a labor of love for Levi's designers. I reckon it's not profitable in part because the high-end jeans market is already pretty well-saturated, and its customers might have something particular or specialized in mind when looking for a pair of jeans

IMHO, LVC would be a lot more popular if they set their starting retail prices more reasonably, and then worked with Cone to come up with some more interesting fabrics on par with the Japanese. I mean, $400 for a triple pleat jacket? $285 for a sawtooth denim shirt? $88 for a Uniqlo-quality T-shirt? Maybe some of their customers have more money than sense and LVC depends on that, but I just get the feeling they would move more units if they were more competitive. 

[Broark]

5 hours ago, Iron Horse said:

IMHO, LVC would be a lot more popular if they set their starting retail prices more reasonably, and then worked with Cone to come up with some more interesting fabrics on par with the Japanese. I mean, $400 for a triple pleat jacket? $285 for a sawtooth denim shirt? $88 for a Uniqlo-quality T-shirt? Maybe some of their customers have more money than sense and LVC depends on that, but I just get the feeling they would move more units if they were more competitive. 

I'm very much on board with this, I don't own any LVC because I find it a tad boring for the price.
If they brought their prices down a little and made their denim a little more interesting from time to time I'd be more intrigued.
Let's not forget the $495 mirror jeans either. 

[Iron Horse]

1 hour ago, Broark said:

Let's not forget the $495 mirror jeans either. 

[keybladehero]

22 hours ago, Maynard Friedman said:

The other high-end sub-brand that Levi's currently has is its more modern Made & Crafted label.

I took a brief look at made & crafted label and it gave me an impression the overall quality still lower than LVC. sigh...

[volvo240thebest]

I need to buy a pair of shoes that  I can wear in semi formal occasions when it's very warm here in Italy, and that I can wear with no socks.

I had used for years a pair of Sanders tassel loafers in the past but they're so worn, used and abused at the moment that I don't really know if it's worth to resole them, insoles are destroyed, upper is completely discolored etc etc.

Not really the kind of stuff I enjoy the most to wear, but I need a pair for these occasions. I think I'd go for a classic pair of penny loafers this time. Any tips for something good, not overly expensive and wide? Alden are definitely out of budget, not enough a fan of Ivy Style to consider spending that budget on a pair of shoes I'd only wear for work.

[Geeman]

How about Bass Weejuns?  Affordable,  bit of history, will last ages with the type of wear you'll put into them?

[volvo240thebest]

that was the first thing I've thought, but I'm having a hard time finding what I like. on ebay they either sell a cognac color or a burgundy, not dark brown which would be my choice.

I would use these shoes when I work at my festival, on concert days, basically I stand up and walk here and there for about 10/12 hrs in the historical centre of an old village, the pavement is all cobblestones.

 

[Maynard Friedman]

Good call Geeman, Sebago used to make decent loafers too. I'm sure Volvo would prefer some gaudy moc-croc Gucci ones though! 

[Maynard Friedman]

Duplicate post (again).

Edited June 24, 2017 by Maynard Friedman

[mrman]

Well, you didn't specify what is semi-formal to you, a sport coat, chinos and a nice shirt? Pennies (I'm partial to Alden) work with most combinations but some nice suede car shoes might work, too. These are the two shoe styles I wear with the aforementioned combo depending on the season and if not opting for something a bit more formal like Alden ptbs.

[volvo240thebest]

^ Exactly, chinos shirt  and a blazer, sometimes a tie. I'm trying to snag a second hand pair of alden pennies, failing that I'll just buy a pair of weejuns although I'm not sure if I'll like their Cordovan color.

[bartlebyyphonics]

^^

 

bass weejuns are the king...

An ivy leaguer re-posting the ivy legend billax posting his love of the weejun

http://oxfordclothbuttondown.com/tag/penny-loafers/

If walking 10 hrs… some comfort style (my preference over sebago boat shoes or driving shoe if I had the readys)

http://www.yuketen.com/ready-to-wear/country-loafer-sg-c-brown

http://www.yuketen.com/ready-to-wear/blucher-with-kiltie-tan

 

some sale items here… Cheaney - cheaper than Alden, posher than weejun

https://www.cheaney.co.uk/cheaney-cannon-loafers-in-black-calf-leather-p322

[tchengaa]

Hi there, I'd like to ask if it is OK to wash two pairs of raw denim together in a washing machine. Thanks !

[garden gnomes in space]

On 6/24/2017 at 1:37 PM, Maynard Friedman said:

Good call Geeman, Sebago used to make decent loafers too. I'm sure Volvo would prefer some gaudy moc-croc Gucci ones though! 

Volvo living that Monaco yacht life with a sweater over his shoulders

[Cucoo]

6 hours ago, tchengaa said:

Hi there, I'd like to ask if it is OK to wash two pairs of raw denim together in a washing machine. Thanks !

It sure is.

Once I was feeling adventurous and even added a raw denim shirt without any ill effects.

But seriously, it's ok, I even throw pairs that don't bleed much anymore in with all my other dark laundry. Raw denim doesn't need to be babied like a silk blouse or something.

Edited June 28, 2017 by Cucoo

[volvo240thebest]

6 hours ago, garden gnomes in space said:

Volvo living that Monaco yacht life with a sweater over his shoulders

@garden gnomes in space you can imagine how much I'd hate this but I happen to work in a posh environment and for 30 days a year I have to dress accordingly. In winter I get away with a tweed jacket tie jeans and Trickers, in summer sadly it's not possible. I should invest in a bit of proper Ivy Style gear for those occasions in the future.

I know you're all very interested to hear this, anyhoo I've sorted myself quite well with a second hand pair of Church's loafers for a 100 euros. The Aldens I was eyeing on ebay went overly expensive. I dig the look of Weejuns but they look narrow and didn't feel to take a gamble on them this time. It left me a bit of bitter taste as after scouting the world of loafers on the interwebs I came to the conclusion that in the loafer world nothing looks as good as Alden pennies, by far.

[mrman]

Visiting Berlin next month and asking pointers which shops to visit. Dc4, Burg&Schild and 14oz are pretty obvious but what else? Any good vintage shops? And wouldn't mind advice on good mid-price eateries that a carnivore like myself would enjoy.

[volvo240thebest]

^ @Foxy2 is your man. Berliner bon vivant supreme!

[Geeman]

DC4,  B&S, Edwin, 14oz and Stetson to name a few. Perhaps Pauls botique or Chapter for vintage, there's quite a few vintage shops. 

14oz also have a sale store right by the Levis store also. 

As for food and drink, booze and meat are two things you don't need to look hard for in Berlin!

If you have time book a walking tour, really worth a couple hours. Original Tours Berlin are are free, you just tip at the end. Google them. 

[machine-language]

Has anyone ever sent your jeans to a downsizing service and the jeans were basically ruined?  How to deal with that?  I am trying to figure out what would be a fair resolution in that scenario.  It just happened to me and did not expect it at all because the place that I sent them to gets good reviews.

The "center" back seam is now an "off-center" back seam.  Measurements confirm it is actually off-center and not just in my head.  The right half of the rear waistband is 0.8" bigger than the left half of the rear waistband - and on a relatively small person that difference is painfully obvious.  The center back seam is nowhere near the center of my butt, and the back pockets are off center too.  Can't even cover the problem with a long shirt because the back pockets are so off center too.  One half of the upper block is just overall smaller than the other.  Completely unwearable now.

 

[Foxy2]

On 28.06.2017 at 6:21 PM, mrman said:

Visiting Berlin next month and asking pointers which shops to visit. Dc4, Burg&Schild and 14oz are pretty obvious but what else? Any good vintage shops? And wouldn't mind advice on good mid-price eateries that a carnivore like myself would enjoy.

which area(s) of Berlin will you stay in and plan to explore?