Shoes that look better with age...

[bartlebyyphonics]

@MasonAlexander that is a nice boot at not a bad price point...

two versions of the jarrow boot have echoes?

https://www.cheaney.co.uk/jarrow-r-derby-boot-in-black-chromexcel-leather-p853

http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=1929

[cheaney 'hurricane' is also worth a look...]

[MasonAlexander]

Thanks for the heads up @bartlebyyphonics ! Although it is not the pair you linked, i did find a pair on the Aero website that i quite like. Can anybody speak to their quality? The price point is deffinitely favourable

[MasonAlexander]

Ah! Perhaps I will have to scratch that idea as well because it seems to be sold out in my size

[bartlebyyphonics]

Happy hunting...

[crescent]

@MasonAlexander Red Wing Williston?

 

[mlwdp]

I just sent my measurements to Wesco for Boss engineers.

Edited December 10, 2018 by mlwdp

[Aries]

On 09/12/2018 at 12:24 AM, MasonAlexander said:

Is it just me, or is it nearly impossible to find a boot that you entirely like?

The vintage boot that Ive always worn has lived a hard life and is in desperate need of retirement.

The only boot that Ive seen in any of my recent memories or hunting that strongly appeals to me is one by Sanders Japan, but I think it was only available at ClutchCafe and is sold out of my size.

Any suggestions? 

@MasonAlexander have you looked at alden jumper boots in black shell? https://aldenmadison.com/collection/jumper-bootblack-shell-cordovand7843hc/

[mlwdp]

Glad HandxAll American Boot MFG

 

 

[mlwdp]

On 11/10/2018 at 1:38 PM, mpukas said:

I've never heard of them. I checked out their website, and it appears their engineer boots you've found are the cream of their crop. They look to be the biz. But not much/no info on leather source, construction, details, last, etc. Their asking a pretty penny for a faith-based purchase... 

Just spoke to the Prez of All American Mfg.  Here's what he told me:

The leather is latigo leather, which is essentially cowskin.  Only one company orders mass production of boots from him from Japan, which is Glad Hand.

The engineer boots are made to measure.  You have to send in a fit sheet with tracings and measurements that are off the website.

The boots take 2 weeks for production.  That's extremely quick!

The last is 395 last, which is used for Hollywood Trading Company and Ace Boots.  They have made boots for other companies such as these two.  Same as the leather.  They create a last to your measurements to make the boots.

Recraftable.  All American has been in business since 1996.

Lastly, the engineer boots that are done with Glad Hand are true to size.

Sending the fit sheet is the address:

7764 San Fernando Rd.

Unit 6

Sun Valley, CA 91352

Edited December 12, 2018 by mlwdp

[mlwdp]

So....Whose's gonna be the guinea pig to buy engineers from All American Boots?  They are basically Ace boots.

Ace Boots version made by All American Boots Mfg:

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by mlwdp

[mpukas]

36 minutes ago, mlwdp said:

So....Whose's gonna be the guinea pig to buy engineers from All American Boots?

Come on bruh, step up! 

[mlwdp]

5 minutes ago, mpukas said:

Come on bruh, step up! 

Doing Wesco .    If anyone has Ace engineers, they're wearing All American basically. 

Edited December 12, 2018 by mlwdp

[mpukas]

Looking forward to seeing your Wesco's and hearing about your experience with them. Lead time?

I always wondered who made Ace boots. SE had a model a few ago that was really cool, and saw a couple other models floating around the internets at a different stores, but could never really find out much info about them. 

[mlwdp]

On 12/12/2018 at 2:47 PM, mpukas said:

Looking forward to seeing your Wesco's and hearing about your experience with them. Lead time?

I always wondered who made Ace boots. SE had a model a few ago that was really cool, and saw a couple other models floating around the internets at a different stores, but could never really find out much info about them. 

Wesco quoted me 16 weeks.  I think @kiya visited them and post pics on styleforum.

Edited December 14, 2018 by mlwdp

[ElTadashi]

On 12/13/2018 at 11:45 AM, mlwdp said:

Wesco quoted me 16 weeks.  I think @kiya visited them and post pics on styleforum.

May I ask what build you went with for your boss boots?

[edmond]

We got a shipment of alden collabs with the store just showing it off

 

military last in snuff v tip foot balance heel and waterlock soles . E width

 

 

[mpukas]

A question for RW moc-toe experts - but I think I know the answer - is there a shank in the midsole? I assume yes. I'm wondering if its viable to have them resoled with a flat sole and no wedge. I've found that boots with just a low heel lift don't work when resoled to be flat if there's a shank. I know it's possible to have the shank removed but that gets into another level of rebuild work. A local cobbler in my area doesnt have that level of skill and I'd have to send them out. 

[SmokeStackLightning]

On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 3:19 PM, mpukas said:

A question for RW moc-toe experts - but I think I know the answer - is there a shank in the midsole? I assume yes. I'm wondering if its viable to have them resoled with a flat sole and no wedge. I've found that boots with just a low heel lift don't work when resoled to be flat if there's a shank. I know it's possible to have the shank removed but that gets into another level of rebuild work. A local cobbler in my area doesnt have that level of skill and I'd have to send them out. 

The 877 does not have a shank, and neither does the 875. I am not sure if the 1907 does or not, which I still have. 

[oomslokop]

rdt coupen brogue in burgundy cxl

[Rob060]

Damn. And I thought my heels were well-worn.

[mlwdp]

[mlwdp]

On 12/14/2018 at 6:06 PM, ElTadashi said:

May I ask what build you went with for your boss boots?

Just the 10' height with mp toe.  Unlike my White's that are for sale, my Boss boots will be in boring Black tie leather in all black again with mini 430 sole.

[ElTadashi]

16 hours ago, mlwdp said:

Just the 10' height with mp toe.  Unlike my White's that are for sale, my Boss boots will be in boring Black tie leather in all black again with mini 430 sole.

Sweet sounds similar to mine. I got a pair of the 7400 in the wider MP toe last.(I had to ask if they would make it first as it is supposed to be a "stock" build)

[Broark]

S&S just released the info for their John Lofgren engineer boots in horsehide. Think I might jump on them, anyone able to give feedback about how the JL engineers fit? I have a pair of Viberg engineer boots in size 12 that are just a touch big, but they’re fine with an insole and boot socks. My best fitting boots are probably my Viberg Boondockers on the 2045 last in size 11.5. Really like that they included photos of the worn sample boots too.

[edmond]

I suggest you skip lofgren and go straight And order a wesco  for half the price yeah?

[Broark]

Ed I know you have beef with Lofgren, not sure why but I think these are solid boots. Nothing wrong with Wesco, but they won’t do anything in a horsehide this nice (at least from what I’ve seen).

[mlwdp]

6 minutes ago, Broark said:

Ed I know you have beef with Lofgren, not sure why but I think these are solid boots. Nothing wrong with Wesco, but they won’t do anything in a horsehide this nice (at least from what I’ve seen).

Have you taken a look at Wesco 100th anniversary horsehide offerings?

[Broark]

@mlwdp I have seen those and while they are really nice I don’t like the outward facing label and the arch height is higher.

[edmond]

Man no more beef with jl man shits done

 

think about it

or tather get a buco than that

[Neihthan]

JL runs a bit big since their Engineer boots are made in last E (same with viberg i believe). John VEB, he goes 1 full size down from his brannock and get a pretty good snug fit as all engineer boots have a lil bit of heels slippage.

So get the same size with your viberg and you'll be fine. if you dont like the fit, put extra insoles and thick socks like me and you will love them