Paul T 1,823,319 Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cusswords said: With LVC being made in Bulgaria and a Turkey does this mean Levi’s has no US made production? When is the last time that happened? Officially, it's the first time it's happened I believe - although US production was contracted out, in any case, from 2003 or so when they closed their own factories, first to Taylor Togs and then to various others. They have a small scale facility in battery street where they prototype stuff, experiment with finishes, and do small runs. Edited August 30, 2019 by Paul T 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
istewi 938 Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) I just received these 1944s from the Levi's store. I came to the conclusion that the price mark down must mean they are selling off old stock (Cone). With the price and the promo code I received, I couldn't very well say no. Made in the US with Cone. Maybe 2 sizes to big at the moment, but it'll be a good future pair. https://imgur.com/a/wc5757q can't upload photos right now for some reason. Sorry! Edited September 1, 2019 by istewi 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dry 154 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) My experience with 1937s has been chequered. I got 2 or 3 pairs of original 555 201s and 1 had a snag. PARTIAL SUCCESS. In about 2012 I picked up 5 more pairs of these which are nice. SUCCESS. At 1 stage you could only get them (now labelled 501s with the different buckle) in the South West Soil finish but not raw. FAILURE. I did get a few pairs of South West Soil which I liked. SUCCESS. When you could get them raw, in early 2000s, the fabric had flaws and would disintegrate. FAILURE - I got Denim Doctor to convert 1 pair into shorts. SUCCESS Whenever I looked, the last of the Cone denim never seemed to available in L36, so now I have some V2s made in Bulgaria which will be interesting! First impressions are good, but pic upload failed. Edited December 31, 2019 by Dry Uploaded pic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maynard Friedman 565,342 Posted September 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Dry said: First impressions are good SUCCESS 17 minutes ago, Dry said: but pic upload failed. FAILURE 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpharikk 456 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Post wash. more detail also! last for rusty button! Edited September 3, 2019 by alpharikk 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, alpharikk said: Post wash. more detail also! last for rusty button! Alpha what model are those? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maynard Friedman 565,342 Posted September 3, 2019 Look like 66s to me. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpharikk 456 Posted September 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, heyson said: Alpha what model are those? It's 66 model buddy.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpharikk 456 Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Maynard Friedman said: Look like 66s to me. Yes it is! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dry 154 Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) On 9/3/2019 at 8:42 PM, Maynard Friedman said: Look like 66s to me. Yes, but I never understood where they got those curiously positioned arcs from. Here is the left rear pocket of some rigid STF zipper Levis, presumably 502s bought new in September 1969. Edited December 31, 2019 by Dry Uploaded pic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, alpharikk said: It's 66 model buddy.. Thanks Alpha. What would your sizing recommendation be for the 66? As far as waist is concerned mainly. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
428CJ 315 Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, alpharikk said: Yes it is! Those don't look like they were worn very long before the wash. How long did you break them in first? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpharikk 456 Posted September 4, 2019 6 hours ago, heyson said: Thanks Alpha. What would your sizing recommendation be for the 66? As far as waist is concerned mainly. I think you can go true size if want to look more slim and go upsize 1 if you want to look more straight. Imho. Because they will shrink around 1inch after initial wash / insoak. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alpharikk 456 Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, 428CJ said: Those don't look like they were worn very long before the wash. How long did you break them in first? Ah I always wash them every week and its already 1 month wear.. Edited September 4, 2019 by alpharikk 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dry 154 Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) On 9/3/2019 at 8:42 PM, Maynard Friedman said: Look like 66s to me. Just had 2 pairs of rigid Cone Mills made in the USA raw 1966s size W32 L36 delivered expecting that I would get V2. I had 2 pairs of 1937 V2s delivered yesterday and the 1966s are a more generous fit in that size to the 1966s. I love the Cone Mills denim which seems similar to the 1947s I bought about 5 years ago. Having said that, I love the new ?Kaihara denim of the 1937s and they have been expertly put together in Bulgaria. The price rises don't seem to affected the UK LS website, unlike Cultizm. I can't upload pics - there was a problem processing the uploaded file. -200. Anybody know why? Edited December 31, 2019 by Dry Uploaded pic 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro 354 Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dry said: Having said that, I love the new ?Kaihara denim of the 1937s and they have been expertly put together in Bulgaria. My favorite Levis model. Glad to hear your positive impression of the Kaihara. I don’t see any stock at Levis.com? Edited September 4, 2019 by Pedro 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dry 154 Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Pedro said: My favorite Levis model. Glad to hear your positive impression of the Kaihara. I don’t see any stock at Levis.com? I think these are Cone: https://www.levi.com/GB/en_GB/clothing/men/jeans/levis-vintage-clothing-1937-501-jeans/p/375010010 And these are made in Bulgaria: https://www.levi.com/GB/en_GB/clothing/men/jeans/levis-vintage-clothing-1937-501-jeans/p/375010015 The key is in the last 2 numbers (10) and (15). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paul T 1,823,319 Posted September 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Dry said: Just had 2 pairs of rigid Cone Mills made in the USA raw 1966s size W32 L36 delivered expecting that I would get V2. I had 2 pairs of 1937 V2s delivered yesterday and the 1966s are a more generous fit in that size to the 1966s. I love the Cone Mills denim which seems similar to the 1947s I bought about 5 years ago. Having said that, I love the new ?Kaihara denim of the 1937s and they have been expertly put together in Bulgaria I can't upload pics - there was a problem processing the uploaded file. -200. Anybody know why? Although there's not the historic legacy of tone, Kaihara supplied a lot of the LVC Japan denim which was always thought to be great. THe -200 error has been aroudn for a bit, means we can't upload files and have to host them somewhere else. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 4, 2019 I’m struggling between a sz 32 and 33 for the 1966’s. I am a 32 in the 1937’s and my 1947’s from about 10 years ago are a sz 33 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maynard Friedman 565,342 Posted September 4, 2019 @heysonI think a size 32 in the 66s should be good for you. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kicks79 23,302 Posted September 5, 2019 @heyson 47s run 1" smaller in the waist than there tagged size. So I would echo what others have said and say 32" would work. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 6, 2019 Thanks for all the sizing help guys. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) As strange as it sounds, I feel that the buckle on my 37’s is the cause of my sudden lower back pain. I was wearing them everyday, and after a long road trip my lower back was jacked up pretty badly. The pain was pretty local to the area where the buckle rests up against, and now that I’ve taken a break from wearing them the pain is going away. Anyone else ever experience this with cinchbacks? I’m contemplating cutting the buckle off, but I’m hesitant. Edited September 15, 2019 by heyson 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ecsong187 1,449 Posted September 15, 2019 Not with pants but I get that with denim jackets with buckle back. I have to cut the buckle off of all of them 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beautiful_FrEaK 1,665,039 Posted September 15, 2019 On 9/5/2019 at 4:12 AM, kicks79 said: @heyson 47s run 1" smaller in the waist than there tagged size. So I would echo what others have said and say 32" would work. For what it's worth, I just had a pair of 47, tag size 34 which measured 33.75" and Aeroleather Clothing has another pair in stock of size 34 which measures 34.75". So like always there is some room for variation. Meanwhile, I posted my pair of 47 on Grailed for sale: https://www.grailed.com/listings/10727329 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro 354 Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) @heyson I always wear buckle-backs without back issue. Are you very thin? I am not thin so its definitely not rubbing against my vertebrae...Lol Something about cutting off the buckles seems very wrong to me. Edited September 15, 2019 by Pedro 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heyson 84,520 Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 5:20 AM, Pedro said: @heyson I always wear buckle-backs without back issue. Are you very thin? I am not thin so its definitely not rubbing against my vertebrae...Lol Something about cutting off the buckles seems very wrong to me. I am pretty thin, yes. I am hesitant to cut off the buckles, but I really want to keep wearing them. Maybe I’ll just go ahead with it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maynard Friedman 565,342 Posted September 16, 2019 Did you wear a belt over the cinch buckle? I know some people do this although I’d never countenance it myself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro 354 Posted September 16, 2019 @Maynard Friedman Great point. Even with my intertube, a leather belt drives the buckle into my back. I agree with you about the cinch being best worn belt-less for a few reasons. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pedro 354 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, heyson said: I am pretty thin, yes. I am hesitant to cut off the buckles, but I really want to keep wearing them. Maybe I’ll just go ahead with it What about just unbuckling the cinch and letting it hang loose a couple of wearings? See if that helps? Please do not post photos if you neuter the ‘37’s. It is too painful to view. Edited September 16, 2019 by Pedro 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
