Levi's Vintage Clothing

[Goominim]

levis need to offer more generous inseams like their competitors. 32-34 seems to be standard now, which is too short for shrinkage

bias:i wear 28-30 waist. lvc doesn't offer more than 34 inseam

[josh mullen]

I haven't checked in a while, but I was under the impression that one can generally find inseams up to 38".

Edit: just checked Cultizm, and yes, there are many 38" inseams available.

[robbie]

Unionmade,Oki-Ni,LN-CC,Asos,Haven,CHCM... have several offerings w/ 36 inch inseams. I don't think LVC goes up to 38, if they do I've never seen it myself.

* I guess cultizm does.

[Goominim]

I haven't checked in a while, but I was under the impression that one can generally find inseams up to 38".

Edit: just checked Cultizm, and yes, there are many 38" inseams available.

buying a 30 waist in PBJ gets you 37.25. not so in lvc. roy denim has it standard, which is awesome. i can get a 28 waist in roys and it will still come with 39.5 inches of inseam. now that's generous!

[xrevengex]

Just bought a pair of 1944

what up kaleb? post some fit pics, everyone will enjoy.

[erk]

those 44s are gonna be super tight after a soak. and most likely too short.

[setterman]

buying a 30 waist in PBJ gets you 37.25. not so in lvc. roy denim has it standard, which is awesome. i can get a 28 waist in roys and it will still come with 39.5 inches of inseam. now that's generous!

Raw LVC has 34, 36 and 38 inseam lengths depending on waist size. No point in a 38" inseam on a pair of size 28 jeans, when the person who's going to wear is probably all of 120 lbs and 5'8" tall. By having the graduated sizing with LVC you can buy a size that will get you close to the inseam length you want, and you won't have to return your jeans to a shop, or visit a tailor, to get them hemmed.

[Goominim]

Raw LVC has 34, 36 and 38 inseam lengths depending on waist size. No point in a 38" inseam on a pair of size 28 jeans, when the person who's going to wear is probably all of 120 lbs and 5'8" tall. By having the graduated sizing with LVC you can buy a size that will get you close to the inseam length you want, and you won't have to return your jeans to a shop, or visit a tailor, to get them hemmed.

I wear 28-30 and I have long legs. 34 sucks. 36 is a minimum for cuffs, which I enjoy having. graduated is great if you offer longer inseams. i think the humble shrinktofit line offers more grades

[xrevengex]

those 44s are gonna be super tight after a soak. and most likely too short.

i think those are post-soak. he's a friend of mine and i tried to help him out with the soaking as much as possible.

from the pics he sent me, his pair is slightly more fitted than most i've seen. it looks good though.

[erk]

i think those are post-soak. he's a friend of mine and i tried to help him out with the soaking as much as possible.

from the pics he sent me, his pair is slightly more fitted than most i've seen. it looks good though.

oh ok. I was thinking that was presoak.

[cloudshift]

LVC does make 38" inseams, though it definitely seems like they're harder to find. Cultizm currently has some, but this is first I've seen them having 38" inseams in a while (I've been checking their site periodically for a while looking for some). No 38" inseams on 1947 501's currently.

For what it's worth, I haven't found any 38" inseams anywhere else, and I've been on the hunt for about a week now.

I did speak to someone at a Levi's shop in Malibu, CA today, and he said on their inventory they show no 38" inseams at all, and he wouldn't even be able get any. I guess it's a Flagship store (whatever that means).

This all comes back around to that discussion earlier about marketing LVC and how hard it is to find their products.

[setterman]

oh ok. I was thinking that was presoak.

Me too. No leg twist and lots of sheen.

[airfrogusmc]

I know not LVC but 2010 US made cone denim 501s.

Nice jeans BTW. Cut more like the 1955s than the 1947s.

[erk]

awesome airfrog. I was hoping someone would get around to posting those. what do you think of the fabric? it looks pretty decent from where i sit.

[bluegoldblues]

wow nice! thanks for sharing! good to see Levis are putting out real jeans again, I had noticed that the 505 has selvage now... but when I was last in the London flagship one of the guys I know in there was showing me a 'new 501' with selvage but I am 100% positive it wasn't made in the USA or Cone, think maybe that was the 2008/9 501 model?? maybe London is behind on these things?? Cos it was only a few months ago I went in.

I might actually buy 501's again now they are made with cone in the USA. I like the fact you are wearing a" 2010 501"

please keep us up to date with fades!

[colgems1966]

those look good. my only gripe is the lack of chain stitching on the cuffs. it really stands out. levis should go back to that for all their 501's. i don't see why they quit doing it to begin with. it couldn't save them anything except a little thread. maybe it was because they had to replace the old machines. Paul would you know why chain stitching the cuffs was abandoned in the first place?

[erk]

those look good. my only gripe is the lack of chain stitching on the cuffs. it really stands out. levis should go back to that for all their 501's. i don't see why they quit doing it to begin with. it couldn't save them anything except a little thread. maybe it was because they had to replace the old machines. Paul would you know why chain stitching the cuffs was abandoned in the first place?

that doesn't bother me nearly as much as the double stitched inseam. I think it just looks bad and not like a 501.

[colgems1966]

agreed. i'm also not keen on the intergrated/gold bartacks. i much preffered the black ones. i thnk most afficianados would agree with these sentiments. these are things that could be improved at little to no cost across the entire 501 line. i have seen many standard 501's in the last few years that have the original single stitched inseam. they seem to have gravitated back to that on most washed models.

[tropicalbird]

Jesus. What does it take to sell jeans these days? Free blowjobs?

[bluegoldblues]

I think you two are looking at it the wrong way, I agree and understand that the double felled inseam is strange and that some people have a phobia of hems without chain stitching..However this is a 'new' 2010 model its not trying to be 'heritage' or a vintage 501. They kind of have to make changes/innovations. In all honesty does chain stitching really matter that much? Joe Blogs isnt going to know the difference.- its prob a cost thing, buying/operating/fixing 'x' amount of scarce, 60 year old union special machines is going to affect the bottom line!

I think its great they have moved back to the usa with cone, Interesting that the rivets have the Warehouse style rivets with the thread poking out.

[Happy Hooligan]

does this mean now I should start buying up all the 1980-90's pairs of 501 as non-selvege crappy jeans will be all the rage to collectors?

[Christmas In A Submarine.]

re: chainstitching.

what's strange to me about the lack of chainstitching on the hem of those 501s is that levis does chainstitch the hem on a variety of their cheaper/non-selvedge pairs.

interpretation: had to cut costs somewhere to hit whatever price point they had set.

[seethruskin]

Just bought a pair of 1944

Yo Matt!. I got bored today. haha

^yeah its a post soak fit pic. They've loosened up a lot. I'll post pics shortly.

[Paul T]

They've had non-chainstitch on a lot of models for a long time now,

Forgotten the name of that double stitching - it isn't felled, I think it's been used on the 501 (with one black line) for a decade or two. I can't say that it bothers me, but the chainstitch does. All said, they look better than the Mexican-made versions.

They must still have chainstitch machines, I bet there are other seams sewn with them. But they will be modern, flat bed ones.

[colgems1966]

I think you two are looking at it the wrong way, I agree and understand that the double felled inseam is strange and that some people have a phobia of hems without chain stitching..However this is a 'new' 2010 model its not trying to be 'heritage' or a vintage 501. They kind of have to make changes/innovations. In all honesty does chain stitching really matter that much? Joe Blogs isnt going to know the difference.- its prob a cost thing, buying/operating/fixing 'x' amount of scarce, 60 year old union special machines is going to affect the bottom line!

I think its great they have moved back to the usa with cone, Interesting that the rivets have the Warehouse style rivets with the thread poking out.

well i can't speak for Erk but to me these aren't "improvements" at all. it doesn't make them any better and losing these little details compounded are what caused regular 501's to lose their mojo. cut a few corners here and there, add a few washes and wala' Mall Jeans. to illustate the point 70's-early 80's 505's weren't selvage but they did have black bartacks, single stitched inseams and chain stitched cuffs and they looked damn good. i used to buy these before the availablilty of repros because they weren't particularly expensive but were good looking, hard wearing jeans.

[Goominim]

i guess i should throw out my 1873 and 1875 lvc jeans. no chainstitch. no yoke. no overlock. no red selvedge line. no belt loops.

[colgems1966]

They've had non-chainstitch on a lot of models for a long time now,

Forgotten the name of that double stitching - it isn't felled, I think it's been used on the 501 (with one black line) for a decade or two. I can't say that it bothers me, but the chainstitch does. All said, they look better than the Mexican-made versions.

They must still have chainstitch machines, I bet there are other seams sewn with them. But they will be modern, flat bed ones.

Levis abandoned chainstitching on the 501/505 around 83' or 84'. the double stitched inseam appeared in the late 80's/early 90's IIRC. as a longtime wearer they were a shock to the system. at the time i didn't like these changes and felt they were losing their magic.

[bluegoldblues]

Ultimately we are talking about multi billion dollar brand that doesn't specialise in denim anymore...you cant expect too much from levi's these days, I'm just pointing out its a cute attempt to recuperate.

The downhill slope of levi's (and other brands) since the early 70's is the sole reason the market for vintage denim exists.

[airfrogusmc]

Ultimately we are talking about multi billion dollar brand that doesn't specialise in denim anymore...you cant expect too much from levi's these days, I'm just pointing out its a cute attempt to recuperate.

The downhill slope of levi's (and other brands) since the early 70's is the sole reason the market for vintage denim exists.

These 501s have really nice cone denim and are very well built. I have yet to wear them and I will wear these raw for some time but they are made better than some of the LVCs I've owned. These are much different from off the shelf STF 501s.

As far as fabric in the rivets as you know I've owned and still own quite a few pairs of LVCs and every raw pair I've owned which is almost all the LVCs I've owned have all had fabric in the rivets.

The denim is really nice and again they are very well made.

[Dr_Heech]

As far as fabric in the rivets as you know I've owned and still own quite a few pairs of LVCs and every raw pair I've owned which is almost all the LVCs I've owned have all had fabric in the rivets.

I noticed the stuff made at Valencia street did not have that extra fabric in the rivet-tops. But from 2003 onwards, it was standard.

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