PBJ AI-001 compared to 45rpm Jomon

[minya]

haha, I'm 6', 160-165 lbs -- I think we're all identically built

[Pauken4]

Maybe we're all in fact the same really crazy person with mulitple personality disorder...

[cheapmuthafukr]

ddml is my evil twin. 6' 150-155

[john11f]

33.5" X 33.5" (preferably)

6 ft. tall, 178-180lbs

Curious as to what the average is for sf denimheads...

[john11f]

^^^^^ I was supposed to start a new thread with this ^. Maybe Minya can move it if it gathers interest...

[Geowu]

new topic!

I am 5'10, 160 lbs and 33 waist

[superslim]

You get busy being an adult for a year and you come back and find the world has continued to move forward and you've just been standindg still. W_W and RR, help me out.

[john11f]

You get busy being an adult for a year and you come back and find the world has continued to move forward and you've just been standindg still. W_W and RR, help me out.

Guess who's keeping himself busy finding out the best way to crease his denim?

"If you want to play with creases and startch- which will not hurt your denim- you can create the crease, wrinkle, fold, or whatever you want to create on the denim, hold it in place with a clothes..."

[sbrguy]

i just bought the jomons the other day an tried on the natural indigo pure blues, the difference for me was simple - fit.

if i could have gotten the pure blues i would have gotten them and saved the 200, but unfortunately a 30 in the pures was thin in teh seat and waist and was too tight, the next size up the 32 was too large, i then went to 45 rpm and tried on the 30 jomons and they were tailor made for me off the peg only had to the lenght taken up whick they did right tehre, great customer service.. if the pures had fit perfectly like the jamons i wouldn't have gotten the jamons, i was looking fo rthe natural indigo first and foremost and both applied,

[PG2G]

Where were the PBJ too tight? In the thighs?

[sbrguy]

the thighs were not tight, but the pure blues were overall a slightly slimmer fit, the jamons feel more like the current lvc 06 47's and the pur blues are slightly slimmer than those. at least that is how they feel to me.

[PG2G]

Just curious, because my PBJ are pretty tight in the thigh. Everyone kinda refers to them as a loose cut, so I assumed that meant that the Jomon and Umii were impossible for me. Sounds like there's still a chance though. Good news

[batch]

The umii's are a little looser in the thighs than the Jomons. PG2G - what's the thigh measurement on your PBJ's? I don't have the exact measurements of my Jomons right now, but I think they're like 12.25 inches across (for a size 31 waist).

[PG2G]

I'll check it out when I get home. You just measure from right below the crotch?

[batch]

Yup, that's how I do it.

[PG2G]

Looks like my PBJ AI-001(32 waist) are 11.75 or 12 across the thigh, depending on whether i measure horizontally or at an angle. 12.25-12.5 would probably be about perfect. Thanks

[poly800rock]

anyone have pictures of the wear of AI-001?

[john11f]

someone asked for pics of the AIs, thought I'd bump this thread.

PG2G, you might want to share some pics of your worn in PBJ's eventhough it hasn't been really broken in yet?

[PG2G]

This is what the wear is looking like, its more pronounced on the left leg cuz I tend to bend (and rub occasionally) it a lot when driving. You can see that its smoothed out compared to the upper thigh and lower leg, and has turned a sort of greyish color.

They've actually been thru 2 soaks, one with soap. No noticeable color loss.

Jomons may be my next pair though, depending on how the whole natural indigo deal works out. I don't know if anyone's ever posted REALLY nice fading with a pair of naturals.

[percy]

hi, can someone post the link to the ny 45rpm online store please. i have done a search but couldnt find it again.

many thanks

[PG2G]

American - http://www.rby45rpm.com/shopping/index.php

Japanese - http://www.45rpm.jp/shop/category/category.aspx

[percy]

cheers for that. pity there isnt any pics of people wearing jomons in this thread. will have a better search later.

[PG2G]

cheers for that. pity there isnt any pics of people wearing jomons in this thread. will have a better search later.

Here are some, from the 45rpm thread. There were probably more in there too. http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showpost.php?p=82133&postcount=40

[percy]

they look nice, i quite like the cut actually. i think i may try to get a pair after the new year.

im getting quite a list now and ive only been registered here for a few days! do i get them before my cougars tho?

[PG2G]

Just saw this posted on BiG today.

"On a side note we learned that the Ai-001 is indeed 18.5 ounce denim

and dyed with natural indigo from the Tokushima prefecture of Japan."

They were originally listed as 14.5 oz. They are pretty close to those new Oni's, in denim weight at least.

[poly800rock]

so the AI is a benchmark of the oni's...

[shinobi2000]

"I don't know if anyone's ever posted REALLY nice fading with a pair of naturals"

It appears so, but I'm confused as to the status of the Okinawas. I was under the impression that they too are natural indigo ("made from indigo dye indigenous to Okinawa etc blah blah"). They have faded beautifully for me and apparently for others as well. Are they truly "natural"? Because I find they are the only exception. All my other natural dyes are impossible to fade, from my Nudie Veg to my own AI 001 (which has like no fading as others have reported here -- but I'm in no rush with these, these will be a life long process for me if it comes to that, I think they're beautiful)

[tweeds]

i thought the okinawas like the hawaiis came in two versions, one natural and one synthetic indigo?

[blm14]

Does anyone know a place to get the AI-001s online?

[poly800rock]

blueingreensoho.com