a.p.c. question

[cw]

hey. i'm trying to decide between a pair of the a.p.c. selvedge jeans and helmut lang bootcuts. never tried the a.p.c.s. how do they fit in comparison to the helmut langs or like a diesel kratt? i'd have to get them on the internet, so what would you recommend in sizing? go with my regular size? or go up a size? thanks for your expertise!

[flex1]

Where can you buy APC jeans online?

[sassafras]

I have had jeans from both brands, in my experience the apc jeans were baggier than they helmuts, which were very slim. a guy in another thread said that unless you're quite skinny, helmuts just look silly (I agree).

both brands make great-looking jeans though. cant go wrong with either brand unless youre a bit on the chubby side, in which case get the apc jeans.

Edited by sassafras on Jan 27, 2005 at 05:46 AM

[cw]

i think you can get them on the website: apc.fr

do you buy a size up for shrinking? or go with your true size?

[poly800rock]

i would buy a size up, levis' i'm 30, but apc 30 is kinda tight....

[wild_whiskey]

I would actually disagree with poly800rock about ordering a size up in A.P.C. but it may be different for different ranges of sizes. I can comfortably wear a 29 in APC whilst Levis seem a little tight (unless I pull them all the way up to my natural waist). I think your best bet is to order your own size, I have washed my A.P.C.s 5 or 6 times to try and get some dye out, and they are about 30.5" across the waist right now (size 30).

I love Helmut Lang jeans, but I would actually go with APC. The Unisex jeans are a great fit, not tight per se but also not baggy. They look much more casual and relaxed, where as the HL jeans look very fashiony. It's your decision, but that would be my answer towards a recommendation.

The Anglaise cut jeans are a great cut but are pretty baggy. I prefer a slim looking jean and the unisexes are just that. Both cuts come in unwashed denim. I think many members of this board prefer the baggier look, but with the APCs it will still give you a nice straight and balanced sillhouette, even with the full cut. The rise is medium on the unisexes (lower then 501s by a good margin, higher than Diesel Zathan, not sure about Kratt), it's been awhile since I've tried on the Anglaise so I cant really remember that rise.

Hope this helps!

[flex1]

I am not familiar at all with apc, I have attached a pic below of a pair from there site.

Is the men's English-style jean a loose fitting pair, do they taper? Are they selvage denim it does not say for any of there jeans?

http://www.apc.fr/us/en/fiche_article.php?ref=1C000512153H

[cw]

thanks for all the valuable insite. i've got a pair of the anglaise coming. can't wait to get them!

[ringring]

Quote:

I am not familiar at all with apc, I have attached a pic below of a pair from there site.

Is the men's English-style jean a loose fitting pair, do they taper? Are they selvage denim it does not say for any of there jeans?

http://www.apc.fr/us/en/fiche_article.php?ref=1C000512153H

--- Original message by flex1 on Jan 27, 2005 03:41 PM

The 'Anglais' is a boxy-waist, looser fitting style compared to the Unisex style. They don't taper and yes, they are selvage. They are very nice jeans.

[flex1]

I am definetely interested in buying a pair, I was wondering what size I should buy, should I size up, I like my jeans to fit fairly baggy.

Also what detailing do apc jeans have, any back pocket design or are they just a plain selvage jean.

[ringring]

APCs - I'm cautious about making size recommendations, as fitting is quite a subjective thing. I'd buy true size in the unisex, but be tempted to go a size down on the Anglais as they are substantially baggier.

APCs are about the plainest 501 style jeans you can buy.

[UnhappySupremeCustomer]

I am extremely fucking interested in purchasing the APC Anglais jeans. The only ones that look semi-baggy cut on the website are the English-style jeans. Are they the same? If not, where the heck can I purchase the Anglais in a 36? Thanks...

IDonTcare

[rhythmandsound]

Anglais and English-style are the same. You can just purchase them online or else check out the list of stores on the site that carry APC

[arem]

APC's don't fit baggy in my experience. They are designed to be pretty straight and slim fitting. You might want to look at other brands if you can't try them on before you buy them.

[Serge d Nimes]

nice, They are sold out of my size. They say unwashed denim? are they sanforized or aer thy shrink to fit? are even the woman's jeans selvage?

Live is too short for bad denim!

[wild_whiskey]

They are sanforized. I am not sure if the women's jeans are selvage but the unisex and men's jeans are. I would assume the women's jeans are too, because they are the same price. And Ringring already touched on this but I'll add that they are VERY plain. It's part of the appeal of APC... it's more minimalist than Helmut Lang, if that's believable.

[My Pal the Crook]

plain jeans, just as they should be.

You give them their identity over time and wear.

[Serge d Nimes]

yes, I agree. Good indigo and a good cut is all you need. I like the nudie jeans, but the ass embroitery is really ghey. and as for evisu... I tried to strip the paint off mine to no avail, so I repainted them black. Are the A.P.C womans jeans really low or are they mid rise? I might check them out if hey are mid rise (i'm a guy though.)

Live is too short for bad denim!

[poly800rock]

i love my nudies, had them for 3 months, wearing them almosty every day.

[peteyross]

Here is my experience with the APC English cut.

In the NY store, they had two washes: (i) Unwashed, as shown on the website and (ii) a very basic distressed wash. The size 31 in the Unwashed fit the same as a 32 in the distressed wash. The jeans are minimalist, but the unwashed indigo is VERY vivid in a good way. As for the fit on the English jean, I would say that they are lower rise straight/loose cut. I would not call them really baggy, but I suppose you could rock them that way if you wanted to. In short, the cut is not so baggy that you look un-put-together but its definitely not tight. You could rock sneakers with them or you could throw on a pair of nicer shoes and still look good.

I purchased the distressed wash and while I'm extremely happy with the jeans, I regret not getting the unwashed pair. They are wearing in well so far so we'll see. For sizing reference, I am a 31 in Edwin and a 31 in dress trousers like theory/vivienne westwood.

[UnhappySupremeCustomer]

How would you compare the APC English cut to a pair of Supreme denim? How much tighter are they than Supreme's? I am interested in buying a pair, but it owuld have to be through mailorder and I couldn't try them on first. I wear a 34, but what if I bought a 36? Thanks..

IDonTcare

[peteyross]

I've tried on the Supreme Selvage jeans and compared to the APC English cut, the Supremes have a higher rise and lower back pockets. Other than that, they fit fairly similarly. I didn't get the Supreme Selvage jeans because the 30 waist was too tight but the 32 was too big.

[superposition]

Oh damn, they're out of my size. Wonder when they'll have the spring line up.

Maybe it's just me but I dont see any Anglais jeans there.

[My Pal the Crook]

"Anglais" are called the English jeans on the site.

Supreme Jeans have the worst cuts, They go high and tight on then waist and then parachute all out at the thighs!

[peteyross]

I'd agree with you about the Supreme jeans. The APC English Cut is a much better over all cut -- somehow it makes you look better than you really should.

[restroombunny]

if i'm a 32 in paper denim what size would i be for apc?

[PT]

APC's fit waaaay better if you get a size too small. I regularly wear a 30, but the Unisex jeans fit nice in a 29. Finest denim trousers i own.

Does anyone have any good ideas on "recipes" for APCs to give them a good finish. I'm thinking 6-9months without washing, then what? I've heard that soaking them for a few minutes in some H2O and Woolite Black makes them turn out nice.

[superposition]

Wow... just 1 day and they sold out on those English cut jeans. Taking Pre-orders though.

[show_N_pruv]

^ mines just came in last friday. had to throw them in the wash because they were real stiff. i'll try the woolite next time I give them a wash... 2 months from now.

thought you was the next man

[corrosion o conformity]

Summer collection seems to be selling out fast. Restocking? I stopped by last week and they didn't have the rain jacket thingy or any denim in my size. I haven't even got my catalog yet and it seems as though they are sold out. Is it the vacation set? Strange.