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Re: P24A-E fit, I believe it feels slimmer because the material makes the seat/thigh fabric drape down the back of the pant, whereas on the DS version it drapes down the outside of the thighs. Not sure if this is due to a change in how it's cut or the material. The fabric itself seems stiffer than DS so you'd think it'd make the pants look looser. I'm probably not wording this well but hopefully it makes sense. P24A-E waist is smaller than my P24A-DS, but the latter were prob stretched out. 

I happen to like this version much more than P24A-DS. Silhouette works for me, and I prefer the non-reinforced hem despite not planning on using the cinch. As thatslapz said, the cargos are more functional and easier to zip one handed. Didn't like E on p10 and p30a, it suits looser pants much better because they don't need stretch and benefit from more structure. 

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11 hours ago, moneytalks said:

hate myself for missing out on the P24A-E
anybody have a black medium to let go of at retail?
and maybe, just maybe, a J68-S black medium to sell as a bundle?

IMG_6763.thumb.jpeg.2966f28a4f858e71b9c0b6255c6b4b33.jpegwearing my ds and ws version, the goat, good luck man

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P24A-E arrived but no spec sheet, somehow. As I hoped/guessed, E seems like a great material for this model alhough I missed out on DS so leaving that comparison for the more fortunate. FWIW, 185 cm at normal proportions and size L seems like ideal length, if you're 190+ I think you might want XL or these will look weird. If you're sub 180 but very stocky, be aware that this is not as generous of a waist as many other Acronym pants. I can also second (or third?) the comment that cargo zippers are easy to operate one-handed, almost magically so. Buttoned smaller front pockets/pouches require quite the tug but can very easily be closed one handed, and perhaps they give a little with time.

I hope the lack of stretch won't mean these tear in the groin, as they're clearly not cut for doing head kicks in.

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1 hour ago, dreamboatjustsoul said:

wearing my ds and ws version, the goat, good luck man

y u gotta do me like this

i do much prefer the stotz , because of where i'll be using it most. 
already have p24a-ds, would much prefer an E

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Yo! Was wondering if anyone had some time to form some thoughts about the P38-AD? 

I love how it doesn't have those cargo side pockets like the DS version does -- looks cleaner. And it would be nice to not have to wear a base layer:D



 

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On 12/10/2021 at 4:22 PM, msoldano said:

Yo! Was wondering if anyone had some time to form some thoughts about the P38-AD? 

I love how it doesn't have those cargo side pockets like the DS version does -- looks cleaner. And it would be nice to not have to wear a base layer:D

Just signed up after seeing this post, have to promote these pants.
P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

The insulation "fur" isn't dense, but it's fluffy, so you won't feel it being compressed and released when pressing on it. No itch feeling either, the fur lies pretty flat.

The pockets ain't interconnected, there is one set of pockets for each side. There's also no belt loop for the reverse fur side, so you are pretty much solely relying on the adjustable drawcord, ain't that comfortable to have those between the pants and waist I'm gonna say...

I was debating whether I should get the AD or wait until I have a chance for the DS, but after getting this I only wish for another AD pant, it's way too good and I don't want to take it off for cold seasons! 

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22 hours ago, HK007 said:

P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

Ahhh that's so awesome you signed up just to respond to me! I really appreciate that. I might want to pull the trigger on a pair bc of this :)

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On 12/10/2021 at 3:38 PM, HK007 said:

Just signed up after seeing this post, have to promote these pants.
P38-AD is awesome. The insulation liner is super comfy, I didn't have the chance to get a P38-DS so I don't know the difference that much besides the side pockets. I have been wearing it for two weeks in November, with temperatures ranging from 5-15+ C, rarely feel hot indoors, never felt cold outdoors. I also noticed the inside-out wearing style reduces insulation level.

The insulation "fur" isn't dense, but it's fluffy, so you won't feel it being compressed and released when pressing on it. No itch feeling either, the fur lies pretty flat.

The pockets ain't interconnected, there is one set of pockets for each side. There's also no belt loop for the reverse fur side, so you are pretty much solely relying on the adjustable drawcord, ain't that comfortable to have those between the pants and waist I'm gonna say...

I was debating whether I should get the AD or wait until I have a chance for the DS, but after getting this I only wish for another AD pant, it's way too good and I don't want to take it off for cold seasons! 

I like the P38-AD as well. The insulation is just right. They keep me warm when walking the dog, but I don't get overheated when coming inside, and I don't have to change to un-insulated trousers.

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Did anyone actually buy the J1W or did they make a million? 

I actually think its a great jacket. I love the new colors and the fit while slightly comical makes a lot more sense to me. The J1A is tight af if you take your TTS imo and it's a joke with a warm insulator attached. The J1W looks like you can actually move in it. 

Having said all of that, I feel like this is the downside of releasing a J1A every year. I know I'm a going to see 30 of these and that makes me want it less...

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Feel like J1 is getting a little old & complex these day.

I'm sure most ppl,including myself, wound choose J1 as first acr jacket because it is the combination of many iconic acr elements. 

I do enjoyed these [tricks] of J1A for a while and then noticed some problem such as the hard to reach chest pocket, the little tight new collar design (starting from 2.2),  interops & WR zip gravity pocket which I may use once per year, and the "feels like I need another airpods next day" forcelock...

To say, each newer version do have some updates like flip gravity pocket, tension zip and wider fit for insulation etc. Not sure if it's me being weird that want a cleaner and simpler jacket rather than a "over engineered" project like complexity...

 

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16 minutes ago, kkuer99 said:

Feel like J1 is getting a little old & complex these day.

I'm sure most ppl,including myself, wound choose J1 as first acr jacket because it is the combination of many iconic acr elements. 

I do enjoyed these [tricks] of J1A for a while and then noticed some problem such as the hard to reach chest pocket, the little tight new collar design (starting from 2.2),  interops & WR zip gravity pocket which I may use once per year, and the "feels like I need another airpods next day" forcelock...

To say, each newer version do have some updates like flip gravity pocket, tension zip and wider fit for insulation etc. Not sure if it's me being weird that want a cleaner and simpler jacket rather than a "over engineered" project like complexity...

 

I totally agree. The minimalist jackets often have just as much complexity as the maximalist ones like (J1 / J47A / etc), the features are just hidden from view. J84 is a good example where it has tension zip pockets, a unique collar design, and the side pockets are absolutely massive, but on the surface it's more discerning and subtle – it feels like the Rick Rubin of Acronym jackets lol 

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Just tried the J1W-GTPL in a local retailer today. I am a size S in J1A-GTPL. i had to size down to XS on j1w because S just too big….. feels like it s just oversized on the width.

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12 hours ago, fanki said:

Just tried the J1W-GTPL in a local retailer today. I am a size S in J1A-GTPL. i had to size down to XS on j1w because S just too big….. feels like it s just oversized on the width.

Just take your normal size bro. Larry Hoover didn’t go to jail for you to undersize an intentionally oversized garment. 

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2 hours ago, fanki said:

Just tried the J1W-GTPL in a local retailer today. I am a size S in J1A-GTPL. i had to size down to XS on j1w because S just too big….. feels like it s just oversized on the width.

J1W, W for WIDE. You don't say! 

(Of course, go with whatever size you want but thought that was too funny)

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2 hours ago, fanki said:

Just tried the J1W-GTPL in a local retailer today. I am a size S in J1A-GTPL. i had to size down to XS on j1w because S just too big….. feels like it s just oversized on the width.

J1W is on the right btw lol

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Bonjour everyone =) Any tips on how to wash Epic (the new version), beside what's written on the garment (detergent powder, double rinse and low temperature) ? Time to clean this P30a-e ! :ph34r:

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3 hours ago, RapGameTaylorSwift said:

I totally agree. The minimalist jackets often have just as much complexity as the maximalist ones like (J1 / J47A / etc), the features are just hidden from view. J84 is a good example where it has tension zip pockets, a unique collar design, and the side pockets are absolutely massive, but on the surface it's more discerning and subtle – it feels like the Rick Rubin of Acronym jackets lol 

Very much the reason why I enjoy  my J47 so much. Simple clean design with plenty of features.

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2 hours ago, Reylius said:

Bonjour everyone =) Any tips on how to wash Epic (the new version), beside what's written on the garment (detergent powder, double rinse and low temperature) ? Time to clean this P30a-e ! :ph34r:

Are you really asking how to follow the instructions on the garment? Errolson really gonna have to put the choking hazard warning on the new shoes for real. 

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18 minutes ago, CARLOOA said:

Are you really asking how to follow the instructions on the garment? Errolson really gonna have to put the choking hazard warning on the new shoes for real. 

nope, just if there were other things to know from your experiences beside the instructions. I thought i was clear, it seems not

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13 minutes ago, Reylius said:

nope, just if there were other things to know from your experiences beside the instructions. I thought i was clear, it seems not

Nope, instructions are all you need.  Washed my P10-E's a few times now as per instructions after some substantial thrashing and they came out perfect every time.  Still water repellant and basically same hand feel as brand new.  Hope they'll work into something a little softer (quieter?) in time though!  Also note that I've been doing what the tags say on all my ACR stuff for years and never had a problem.

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On 12/14/2021 at 5:19 PM, Reylius said:

nope, just if there were other things to know from your experiences beside the instructions. I thought i was clear, it seems not

I spilled some hamburger grease on my trousers a short time ago. I followed the washing instructions on the label and the stain was still there. The stain was tallow/beef fat only!

So I washed them again in warm water with all other instructions as per the label. Still no luck. So applied a liberal does of "Shout" and then washed the trousers in warm rather than cold water. The stain was finally removed. There was no apparent harm to the garment, but perhaps some of the weather proofing was removed. (Some stated in an earlier thread that these E garments were good for 50 washes?) In any event, I broke some of the washing rules.(I like to live Life on the Edge!) and nothing bad happened. but maybe the laundry police will show up with a warrant.

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I think the J1W would probably fit me better than J1A 2.2. Backer Gray is the pick of the bunch for me.

Anyone having fun with the vest (V5-PX)?

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13 hours ago, Roofmann said:

I spilled some hamburger grease on my trousers a short time ago. I followed the washing instructions on the label and the stain was still there. The stain was tallow/beef fat only!

So I washed them again in warm water with all other instructions as per the label. Still no luck. So applied a liberal does of "Shout" and then washed the trousers in warm rather than cold water. The stain was finally removed. There was no apparent harm to the garment, but perhaps some of the weather proofing was removed. (Some stated in an earlier thread that these E garments were good for 50 washes?) In any event, I broke some of the washing rules (I like to live Life on the Edge!) and nothing bad happened. but maybe the laundry police will show up with a warrant1

Thanks for the feedbacks! If you have any hint about the waterproofness of your garment next time it's raining, let us know !

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