Acronym.

[russo_cypriot 68]

EVOLUTION jacket just dropped

https://acrnm.com/products/EVOLUTION_NA

[AvantSol 725]

@Orientalq there's your cheaper acr jacket.

[russo_cypriot 68]

E finally sized up

Edit: I'm also curious how much that mask is going to cost

Edited November 2, 2020 by russo_cypriot

[RemarkableArmor 710]

4 hours ago, skycrawler said:

No aux zips. It is certainly more Tilak than acronym, even the exterior texture of the GT fabric felt different, more rugged than the Acronym shells. But there is the same dna running through the piece in its design approach.

How did you size compared to your normal ACR size if you have one? I just noticed that E is wearing an L but the measurements don’t seem less than a normal ACR hardshell.

[IzunaK 31]

1 minute ago, RemarkableArmor said:

How did you size compared to your normal ACR size if you have one? I just noticed that E is wearing an L but the measurements don’t seem less than a normal ACR hardshell.

Looking at the measurements, the chest measurements on a large look on par with the sizing of all my other ACR shells, and I wear a L across the board for the 3 GTX shells I've owned.

[iamundying 123,300]

I prefer this to the J1B. Really like the hood that's reminiscent of the one on J54-LP. No frills, really clean.

[RemarkableArmor 710]

26 minutes ago, IzunaK said:

Looking at the measurements, the chest measurements on a large look on par with the sizing of all my other ACR shells, and I wear a L across the board for the 3 GTX shells I've owned.

Yeah ditto ... it doesn’t look significantly bigger on him to me to be an L based on those numbers (assuming he normally models Ms) but will see  I went my normal ACR size. Thanks 

[daniel 12,282]

on, I will go for LARGE, nice

[Inkinsurgent 4,517]

acr markup checks out: retail is exactly twice a regular evolution jacket

[beepy 215]

28 minutes ago, russo_cypriot said:

E finally sized up

Edit: I'm also curious how much that mask is going to cost

I'd be amazed if the mask is under $200. 

But yeah hood looks much nicer than the normal Evolution.

Here's a fun game for @Orientalq. With 200 pieces produced, is this a cheap acronym jacket over priced at double Tilak's normal price for the evolution?

Question for people buying one: Tilak has been making this jacket for years, so why are you getting this version?

[RemarkableArmor 710]

54 minutes ago, beepy said:

I'd be amazed if the mask is under $200. 

But yeah hood looks much nicer than the normal Evolution.

Here's a fun game for @Orientalq. With 200 pieces produced, is this a cheap acronym jacket over priced at double Tilak's normal price for the evolution?

Question for people buying one: Tilak has been making this jacket for years, so why are you getting this version?

From my perspective nothing logical ... it’s an acronym collab and I like acronym ... shameless I know . Growing up as a streetwear nut I was always a sucker for a good double label !

[Orientalq 447]

3 hours ago, beepy said:

Here's a fun game for @Orientalq. With 200 pieces produced, is this a cheap acronym jacket over priced at double Tilak's normal price for the evolution?

I agree that this is very well priced compared to typical Acronym, but it's still way more than the normal Evolution. Imo this more proof a GTX shell can be priced lower although this is more of a Tilak jacket than an Acronym one. Missing a lot of ACR's bells and whistles so I won't be picking one up. 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Orientalq

[Orientalq 447]

7 hours ago, WillKhitie said:

Dude, maybe they don't want to scale? Maybe they prefer to sell a handful of models, float inventory, and keep it hype/aspirational? Maybe E wants to pay everyone on the small team a living EUR wage. Maybe he just wants another car.

You wanna might wanna ask those first. It feels like you're pitching for a job/attention with unsolicited advice.

Do you go to a taqueria and ask what their stock volume is like to calculate the exact profit to determine whether a reasonable possibility of both a pricing and stock inefficiency in their current line up?

You talk with so much numerical pseudo-biz fluff yet lack the perspective to understand how any of it works. It's so frustrating. 

1) More J1A will still keep ACR in the hype realm as I addressed in the main post. It's like ACR's AF1. They can always find variations and innovations that will push the brand further rather than artificial scarcity.

2) Living EUR wage while having a factory in China where living costs are undoubtedly lower. 

3) Unsolicited? It's a fan forum. Everything is unsolicited except for advice. I'm presenting evidence based solutions because I like the brand and want it to improve. What does it have to do with whether you asked for it or not? Nobody is forcing you to read it. 

4) I'll go to the taqueria if it sells their goods at markups too high and stock too low by speaking to their staff. By running a business with inefficiencies, its squashing potential and hurting both consumers and employees.

5) Elaborate on lacking perspective. I have talked to people in the industry as well as sourced genuine customers to back my claims. I find your last paragraph disingenuous and superficially written at worst. 

[denimjeans 100]

19 hours ago, eidolarr said:

Has Acronym used the PU fabric in the past? Do you have to brush it to keep the nap? Site says:

this part of the copy could just dictate the production process for the material involved rather than the care process for the fabric

 

[JoseRizal 116]

Who is tired of this guy, honestly 

[yellowpanda 199]

@Orientalq Honestly man this is tiring and despite all your “evidence” based arguments it’s not going to change the Acronym business model. The bottom line is put your money on the product if you like what you’re getting or don’t. Errolson and Michaela are not going to change their model just because you asked nicely. They’ve been fine before reps and they’ll be fine afterwards. If you have all this money saved to buy a shell but you won’t commit to ACR because it’s too expensive (but you still want it because you like it) then thats your personal predicament. No one but yourself will be able to make that decision.

You can either buy the real deal, buy a rep (like you brought up before) or just not buy anything.

This thread isn’t a customer suggestion inbox.

[brian_g 25]

On 10/29/2020 at 2:58 PM, thatslapz said:

Have HBX support look into.  This has happened to me but they always clear it from their end and I have never had to pay fees or provide additional documentation.

Thanks for that note. Their staff was helpful and one of the deliveries was processed and delivered to me this morning without any additional issue. The 2nd package is still held up with FedEx, but HBX checked in with me again and said they submitted whatever was needed for that package too, so I'd imagine that will get resolved soon.

[BRICK DOM 123,990]

Can we all just stop engaging with him and interacting with him? I get the impression he’s a young guy and has this “woke” attitude that a lot of younger guys have (late teens, early 20s). 

The guy owns 1 acr piece that he bought second hand this year and he calls it the memecape or whatever. He clearly has no skin in this and will just keep going on ad nauseum. It’s been going on for 3 pages and i appreciate the users who just ignored him and continued discussing the usual.

This entire exchange was not refreshing or useful or interesting or whatever the hell the goal is. I’m putting him on block but i hope that all you guys who are engaging with him see that it’s totally pointless. Nothing meaningful is coming from interacting with him imo

[Orientalq 447]

22 minutes ago, BRICK DOM said:

Can we all just stop engaging with him and interacting with him? I get the impression he’s a young guy and has this “woke” attitude that a lot of younger guys have (late teens, early 20s). 

The guy owns 1 acr piece that he bought second hand this year and he calls it the memecape or whatever. He clearly has no skin in this and will just keep going on ad nauseum. It’s been going on for 3 pages and i appreciate the users who just ignored him and continued discussing the usual.

1) Early 20s, don't get what you mean by woke attitude. This has literally nothing to do with woke ideology (Google the definition). Going straight for the character attacks, huh?

2) Memecape coined by Antwon and is special because it was a one off cape that steered away from traditional ACR items. 

3) I have skin in the game, own multiple Errolson pieces from ACG. I have money set away specifically for a jacket. Maybe speaking from the perspective of not being an owner clears me of J1Investment bias. 

4) Not ad nauseum if my points are sound and are tailored for responses to people.

5) Ignoring the issue isn't going to make it go away. I have yet to read anything meaningful from you, @BRICK DOM.

Edited November 2, 2020 by Orientalq

[eidolarr 258]

Something I've been thinking about a minute now, instigated by the ingredient list of HG1-PU: I wish Acronym would mix more natural "superfabrics" in, particularly linen and merino wool.

When my Manhattan apartment refused to lower the rent in April (lol) I moved out and have been digital nomading ever since. The "function and form" nature of this genre of clothing is incredibly useful for this lifestyle, because the garments are often very light, have specific utility, are durable, etc. Dyneema bags, windstopper jackets, shakedry slickers, and so on. but I learned long ago that at the end of the day, all these tech fabrics will become awful smelly if worn repeatedly, which is what you're gonna do if you're living out of a backpack. Goretex will delaminate. Meanwhile I've been rotating the same two merino tank tops, washing like once a month (by hand, in the shower, with shampoo), for the past six months. and my rosen linen pants resist odor better and are more breathable than encapsulated nylon, which I understand to be acronym's lightest fabric. It's why I haven't bought any of the DS shirts: I'm sure they smell awful by the end of day one.

Just another dimension of utility that I wish they'd explore. I'd buy the hell out of a merino wool J77 for my journeys.

EDIT: 

44 minutes ago, BRICK DOM said:

This entire exchange was not refreshing or useful or interesting or whatever the hell the goal is. I’m putting him on block but i hope that all you guys who are engaging with him see that it’s totally pointless. Nothing meaningful is coming from interacting with him imo

Can u really block people? How??

Edited November 2, 2020 by eidolarr

[Orientalq 447]

8 minutes ago, eidolarr said:

Can u really block people? How??

 Account -> ignored users -> add to ignore list

Edited November 2, 2020 by Orientalq

[LeftyJeenyus 8,514]

19 minutes ago, Orientalq said:

 Account -> ignored users -> add to ignore list

Thank you for the only positive rep i will give you. 
 

I wish the evo jacket had waist packets would have clicked buy; but now just waiting for the j1b white to drop stateside and avoid paying calculated additional duties taxes due to laziness since o have the j1a2.2 +j58 combo set for most of my winter. 
~Lefty

Edited November 2, 2020 by LeftyJeenyus

[daniel 12,282]

as due acronym.com #Independently owned and operated = @ O...

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isn't there Sachenbacher Michaela beside Hugh Errolson ??

Edited November 2, 2020 by daniel

[Orientalq 447]

1 hour ago, daniel said:

as due acronym.com #Independently owned and operated = @ O...

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isn't there Sachenbacher Michaela beside Hugh Errolson ??

Typo? Sorry but I can't tell what you're trying to say.

[Orientalq 447]

1 minute ago, daniel said:

::? Michael Clayton ... my name is S. ::

Are you okay

[Flipflop214 1,959]

This might have been asked before but how are you guys washing your encapsulated nylon fabric?

sorry, I’m too lazy to search the thread. 

[wexler 651]

2 hours ago, Flipflop214 said:

This might have been asked before but how are you guys washing your encapsulated nylon fabric?

sorry, I’m too lazy to search the thread. 

I’ve done warm w/ Grangers double rinse no issue. Now back to fw20 or should we continue speculating acrnm’s business model?

[Orientalq 447]

8 minutes ago, wexler said:

I’ve done warm w/ Grangers double rinse no issue. Now back to fw20 or should we continue speculating acrnm’s business model?

Is WS durable enough to wear outdoors? Like would tree branches tear it up, etc. I know GTX 3L is thick enough for sure.

[jasonlao 89]

12 minutes ago, wexler said:

I’ve done warm w/ Grangers double rinse no issue. Now back to fw20 or should we continue speculating acrnm’s business model?

Damn, I definitely like the RAF a lot better than my Multi.

[Flipflop214 1,959]

Got the info I needed. Thanks y’all  

 

From the consensus, there’s a lot of different ways to go about it. Everyone is using grangers in a gentle cycle then either hang dry or put into dryer at low settings.