Acronym.

[markdjr 1,399]

Anyone have experience with P10 pants and Veilance Voronoi?  Mostly interested in comparison of fit and movement.  Thanks for any info.

[Yardsale 790,122]

13 minutes ago, markdjr said:

Anyone have experience with P10 pants and Veilance Voronoi?  Mostly interested in comparison of fit and movement.  Thanks for any info.

I have both (P10 in E and DS fabrics). Voronoi fabric faded so quick. Also Veilance was cut slimmer. Much prefer the P10 if you can swing it though I hear it fits certain people weird (I'm tall and skinny).

[piece keeper 5,058]

13 minutes ago, markdjr said:

Anyone have experience with P10 pants and Veilance Voronoi?  Mostly interested in comparison of fit and movement.  Thanks for any info.

Voronois were some of the most constricting pants I've ever worn, though this was ~5 years ago so YMMV with the current model. Some of that may be the material though, as I had P10-DS which have a lot of stretch.

They also only lasted about 6 months in an office environment before the crotch blew out and when trying to get a warranty replacement AV told me they don't cover "normal wear and tear" to which I argued a 6-month lifespan of sitting in an office chair constitutes "normal wear and tear" for $400 pants? After several weeks of back-and-forth and getting a supervisor involved they finally gave me store credit, but man was it a headache. But again, this was 5 years ago so not sure what it'd be like now; but they left such a bad taste in my mouth that I haven't gone with AV too much since then. Though not sure ACR's customer service would be any better (but thankfully I haven't had to deal with that yet!).

[xc-mtb 178]

9 hours ago, piece keeper said:

Voronois were some of the most constricting pants I've ever worn, though this was ~5 years ago so YMMV with the current model. Some of that may be the material though, as I had P10-DS which have a lot of stretch.

They also only lasted about 6 months in an office environment before the crotch blew out and when trying to get a warranty replacement AV told me they don't cover "normal wear and tear" to which I argued a 6-month lifespan of sitting in an office chair constitutes "normal wear and tear" for $400 pants? After several weeks of back-and-forth and getting a supervisor involved they finally gave me store credit, but man was it a headache. But again, this was 5 years ago so not sure what it'd be like now; but they left such a bad taste in my mouth that I haven't gone with AV too much since then. Though not sure ACR's customer service would be any better (but thankfully I haven't had to deal with that yet!).

In Europe I had very good results with Veilance Customer Service.
But for me Veilance and Acronym are total different issues regarding their pants and usability. I like both.

Edited May 20 by xc-mtb

[LanceP 1,589]

11 hours ago, markdjr said:

Anyone have experience with P10 pants and Veilance Voronoi?  Mostly interested in comparison of fit and movement.  Thanks for any info.

Have/had P10-DS (FW-1516) and -S (FW-1213). Had 1st gen Voronoi AR.

Would take P10's any day... less constricting, better fabrication. Fade and wear on the Stotz > fade and wear on the Voronois.

Edited May 20 by LanceP

[zxcvbnnn 2]

12 hours ago, markdjr said:

Anyone have experience with P10 pants and Veilance Voronoi?  Mostly interested in comparison of fit and movement.  Thanks for any info.

+1 on Voronois being very constricting and slim compared to P10s, even in Stotz which has little stretch.

[Inkinsurgent 4,367]

the nyco voronois are garbage for all the above reasons but the all nylon voronois are my favourite pants. they are not as articulated as P10's but they fit great and their range of motion is fine.  

[Willy19 6]

Bad news for j44-sd

after two days the wrinkles going back again  it’s not as bad as before but not as good as new also

so sd material is hard to maintain, if there’s acro with sd material again,should think twice before buy

but still j44-sd unique jacket in certain way

Edited May 20 by Willy19

[Cornuto 189]

3 hours ago, Inkinsurgent said:

the nyco voronois are garbage for all the above reasons but the all nylon voronois are my favourite pants. they are not as articulated as P10's but they fit great and their range of motion is fine.  

Plus you can dress them up. P10's look too ninja for anything but casual wear.

Like the rise on the Voronois better too.

[hooper 1,577]

new pants?

[Kamikaze 3,827]

3 minutes ago, hooper said:

new pants?

i think they're the sp12ts-s

[Xu Jianfeng 1,865]

2 hours ago, hooper said:

new pants?

those new old stock pics were taken during the acrnm site restocking SS16 yeah i too think its the SP12TS shorts during that time.

[Stunt 407,717]

4 hours ago, Kamikaze said:

i think they're the sp12ts-s

sp12ts-ch*

[hooper 1,577]

3 hours ago, Xu Jianfeng said:

those new old stock pics were taken during the acrnm site restocking SS16 yeah i too think its the SP12TS shorts during that time.

right i thought they looked like the same pics from the acr "vault" sale. thanks!

 

Edited May 21 by hooper

[moneytalks 804]

13 hours ago, hooper said:

right i thought they looked like the same pics from the acr "vault" sale. thanks!

 

logo sleeve hitch tabs are a... #deadgiveaway

[daniel 12,216]

On 5/21/2020 at 6:27 AM, Stunt said:

sp12ts-ch*

SP12TS-CH ss13

[xc-mtb 178]

Any first lucky winners in the HANNON Acronym offers?

[moneytalks 804]

2 hours ago, xc-mtb said:

Any first lucky winners in the HANNON Acronym offers?

do you get a "sorry you didn't win" email? or no email = no win?

[upheavel 477]

The only thing people will be "winning" are J39S. All the good stuff is already being backdoored.

[CCALL 10]

1 hour ago, moneytalks said:

do you get a "sorry you didn't win" email? or no email = no win?

I got an "order confirmed" email, so I assume that's the "you won" email. 
 

EDIT: Meaning that if your order status hasn't updated that means you didn't.

Edited May 22 by CCALL

[dreamboatjustsoul 147]

4 minutes ago, upheavel said:

The only thing people will be "winning" are J39S. All the good stuff is already being backdoored.

tbh, J39 is the only one I entered except that grail J1A-LP, and my mates have won CH-J31 and J43-GT

[drgitlin 9,414]

31 minutes ago, upheavel said:

The only thing people will be "winning" are J39S. All the good stuff is already being backdoored.

This is all old stock they can't return and couldn't sell to people who worked there over the past few years. If they'd been able to back door it before now, don't you think they would have? 

[Inkinsurgent 4,367]

also pre-hype items tend not to sell well with the hype crowd for some reason.

[upheavel 477]

3 minutes ago, drgitlin said:

This is all old stock they can't return and couldn't sell to people who worked there over the past few years. If they'd been able to back door it before now, don't you think they would have? 

Yep, which is why they have a full size run of J39. It didn't resell for shit back then and now it does.

[RemarkableArmor 692]

1 hour ago, drgitlin said:

This is all old stock they can't return and couldn't sell to people who worked there over the past few years. If they'd been able to back door it before now, don't you think they would have? 

This. I don’t see any bangers in any of this at all that are going to set the resell world aflame. Hopefully some people can pick up some bits they’re pleased with for decent prices but the “vault” is just a spin on stuff no-one bought back then...often for good reason  

[drgitlin 9,414]

Right, this is "we've got nothing else to do in the shop all day because we can't have people visit in-person, so lets clean out the stockroom and see if we can make some money off some of this old shit that's been lying around for a decade." 

I imagine the not-acronym stuff has all gone on eBay or grailed in the hope of shifting it.

Edited May 22 by drgitlin

[Inkinsurgent 4,367]

i'm surprised they have so much acr laying around still. this is my favourite acr period so definitely excited.

[xc-mtb 178]

Wow, glad I skipped the first round. That is great stuff 

[Rough Sleeper 30]

1 hour ago, Inkinsurgent said:

i'm surprised they have so much acr laying around still. this is my favourite acr period so definitely excited.

I remember how J36-GT DUO were sitting for a year on acrnm and then suddenly someone bought for 2000 rom yahoo. good times

Edited May 22 by Rough Sleeper

[Flipflop214 1,898]

Shut up