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29 minutes ago, cthulhudaddi said:

woah mind blown, hadn't thought to check there. thanks!

and absolutely will do, just meant it looks like it will stay clean for quite a while.

Gt you want to clean regularly for functionality and longevity. Even if the outer isn’t dirty.

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for sure! how often would you recommend? for context, im thinking i'll be using the J27 as a daily jacket until early spring at least..

also, i just walked thru 15 blocks of 19F NYC midtown wind tunnels and it (with the J56) kept me plenty warm. a pair of gloves would not be unwelcomed tho. the zippered pockets are rather breathable but you can feel the wind thru the corners of them. when you tuck your head into the tall collar, the wind really doesn't make much of an impact.. and the hood of the J27 with a ballcap is pretty solid too... i've lived in nyc for a bunch of winters now, and this time i finally got home without having my ears feel like they were about to shatter into pieces as soon as i walked into the door. they were cold of course, but none of that frozen sting..

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How do you wash your -PB jackets? Any differences to a normal gore tex jacket? It seems not regarding to the washing Tag but I’ll better double check :)

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Thoughts on the J59-GT

Haven’t seen anything about this jacket, so wanted to share my experience with it (since there are a few left, I think). I posted this on reddit as well, so more of a “I hope this helps those on the fence“ kinda post. I’ve really enjoyed this jacket.

 

1month ago

Just got it today in medium. I’m 182cm/78kg, athletic. It’s a big and boxy fit, but by manipulating the zipper and the pull cord, you actually have a lot of control over the silhouette, which is the main thing I want to hit on. All the specs and similar are online and the product imagery is pretty spot on to reality.

It’s modeled after the MA-1, which is what originally drew me to it. I’ve wanted an MA-1 forever, and have a few other jackets in that family like the Buzz Rickson Gibson B15, and a Rickson A2. But I’ve resisted getting an MA-1. I hadn’t found an option that felt quite right and there a something about the details on that kinda flight jacket that feel foreign to me. I get the same sense when I wear the B15, with its vestigial arm pocket and detailing that’s plenty useful as a pilot, a bit less so as a pedestrian.

Anyway, seeing the J59-GT, I felt like I was seeing the thing I didn’t quite know I was looking for. A weather shield that looked like an MA-1 if you squint, but also feels like something distinct.

When it arrived, I was initially a bit unhappy. The frame felt somehow bigger than I expected, especially as someone who usually wears more fitted clothes. But after walking around a bit and seeing how the jacket settled and moved, I think what I had interpreted as bagginess was actually the structure of the fabric and the internal volume mimicking the shapes and contours of a nylon and wool constructed MA-1. With the lines of the pockets and the manipulation made possible with the draw cord, it took on the shape of the MA-1 and (insofar as that shape is structure) actually creates a very structured overall look.

This jacket presents an interesting opportunity to explore alternatives to (what I had understood as) the streamlined tech wear silhouette. Especially as someone who has been drawn to military surplus and workwear, there is something to the material efficiency of a lot of tech wear (and the way it almost diminishes the wearer) that I’ve never loved. Conversely, military and workwear have a lot of form-follows-function staples that present that function efficiently from an economic perspective, but not a material one. Just have the wearer do more squats if they complain. Anyway, my frustration is that often with tech wear I feel like the individual disappears behind the clothes, maybe as a protest to the commodification of identity and information in our current age. This jacket doesn’t do that, and it feels a bit less like it’s wearing you. It also feels a bit less “tech wear” perhaps, though I think my definition there is a bit limited.

Anyway, my intent with this jacket is to wear it heavily, casually, and across a bunch of needs. So will report back on how it survives. Big points of concern are the zipper and the Goretex stretching ribbing. It seems pretty solid, but especially around the hands I imagine that level of contact with that kind of material will lead to sweat and potentially material degradation. But hopefully this’ll be a key piece for years. Hope this helps, 

https://acrnm.com/products/J59-GT_SS19

Also a thought:
https://www.heddels.com/2015/03/william-gibson-interview-buzz-rickson-line-tech-wear-limits-authenticity/

 

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Today
One month in, I love this thing.

Some big things:
- Silhouette is very flexible thanks to the draw string and dual zipper. I’ve found the sweet spot for me, but have actually manipulated it from time to time depending on what I’m looking for that day. Definitely a more casual look.
- The pockets are huge and useful, but zip them closed. Somewhere in Copenhagen, there is an outlier beanie that slipped out. I wish there was a bit of a well under the zipped area to catch such things.
- The hood is awesome. I’ve also swapped it on and off again depending on what I’m looking for.
- The chest snap is key. It basically lets the j59 semi-structured silhouette work without being zipped shut.
- The 2L at the cuffs seems to work fine and has been nice in the incredibly windy Denmark. Still slightly worried about a sweat and oil collection there but haven’t noticed anything yet.
- I’m a backpack person primarily, and sadly it looks kind of sloppy with a backpack. I usually wear a messenger bag with it now.
- I have an 8mo old who I often cart around in an ergobaby chest harness, and this thing somehow makes that look okay layered over the harness and open at the front. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Anyway, all told a big purchase that I was nervous about, but I’ve been super happy. I think I will get a more structured acronym jacket as well, but down the road and likely not in GT. 

Let me know if you have any questions, as there still seem to be one or two on the site.

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On 12/23/2019 at 3:25 PM, dixonschneider said:

How do you wash your -PB jackets? Any differences to a normal gore tex jacket? It seems not regarding to the washing Tag but I’ll better double check :)

Same as other gtx. Inside out zipped up in garment bag, warm with techwash. No need to reapply dwr since there isn’t any.

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2 hours ago, wexler said:

Same as other gtx. Inside out zipped out in garment bag, warm with techwash. No need to reapply dwr since there isn’t any.

Do you do inside out when you wash your Gore-Tex pro? 

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5 hours ago, dreamboatjustsoul said:

Do you do inside out when you wash your Gore-Tex pro? 

Yeah, my logic being dirt/oil contamination via the backer occurs more-so than face fabric. Also remove force lock/logo tape, sling, hood if detachable, loosen shock cords and close all pockets.

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3 hours ago, AvantSol said:

Honestly, first I heard about someone inside out washing their GT

Second this, it makes sense to maybe lightly rinse the inside to wash sweat/dirt, but I've only ever washed it thoroughly via the outside to get rid of dirt or scuffs etc.

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Also I always figured this might contribute to more seam peeling if that faces the washing machine drum... (even though I use a garment bag too *paranoid*)

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12 hours ago, wexler said:

Yeah, my logic being dirt/oil contamination via the backer occurs more-so than face fabric. Also remove force lock/logo tape, sling, hood if detachable, loosen shock cords and close all pockets.

first time to hear inside out to wash goretex as well, since I just follow the arcteyx goretex washing vid, I will probably try to hand wash the inside next time. 

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6 hours ago, RemarkableArmor said:

Also I always figured this might contribute to more seam peeling if that faces the washing machine drum... (even though I use a garment bag too *paranoid*)

Agreed, wouldn't turn it inside out if I didn't use a garment bag. But then again I wouldn’t wash a $1k++ jackets without investing $5 in a wash bag. Idk maybe its just from habit of turning stuff inside out (ex: wool sweaters to help prevent piling) it probably makes no difference lol.

edit: with shakedry through I’d be hesitant about not washing inside out since the membrane is the face but again *paranoid*

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Yeah that’s a good point (PB/FO) ... the face feels a lot more fragile than the lining in that instance. I can see how it would be a good move!

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15 hours ago, nathan_ said:

Second this, it makes sense to maybe lightly rinse the inside to wash sweat/dirt, but I've only ever washed it thoroughly via the outside to get rid of dirt or scuffs etc.

The inside is where degradation/lack of performance emanates from in terms of soiling. The oils from your skin cause the membranes to separate if not removed frequently. It’s less of an issue if wearing a liner/neck gaiter/gloves but will still need to be cleansed more frequently than the exterior for the most part. 

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On 12/25/2019 at 1:35 PM, andrewlb said:

 

Thoughts on the J59-GT

Haven’t seen anything about this jacket, so wanted to share my experience with it (since there are a few left, I think). I posted this on reddit as well, so more of a “I hope this helps those on the fence“ kinda post. I’ve really enjoyed this jacket.

 

1month ago

Just got it today in medium. I’m 182cm/78kg, athletic. It’s a big and boxy fit, but by manipulating the zipper and the pull cord, you actually have a lot of control over the silhouette, which is the main thing I want to hit on. All the specs and similar are online and the product imagery is pretty spot on to reality.

It’s modeled after the MA-1, which is what originally drew me to it. I’ve wanted an MA-1 forever, and have a few other jackets in that family like the Buzz Rickson Gibson B15, and a Rickson A2. But I’ve resisted getting an MA-1. I hadn’t found an option that felt quite right and there a something about the details on that kinda flight jacket that feel foreign to me. I get the same sense when I wear the B15, with its vestigial arm pocket and detailing that’s plenty useful as a pilot, a bit less so as a pedestrian.

Anyway, seeing the J59-GT, I felt like I was seeing the thing I didn’t quite know I was looking for. A weather shield that looked like an MA-1 if you squint, but also feels like something distinct.

When it arrived, I was initially a bit unhappy. The frame felt somehow bigger than I expected, especially as someone who usually wears more fitted clothes. But after walking around a bit and seeing how the jacket settled and moved, I think what I had interpreted as bagginess was actually the structure of the fabric and the internal volume mimicking the shapes and contours of a nylon and wool constructed MA-1. With the lines of the pockets and the manipulation made possible with the draw cord, it took on the shape of the MA-1 and (insofar as that shape is structure) actually creates a very structured overall look.

This jacket presents an interesting opportunity to explore alternatives to (what I had understood as) the streamlined tech wear silhouette. Especially as someone who has been drawn to military surplus and workwear, there is something to the material efficiency of a lot of tech wear (and the way it almost diminishes the wearer) that I’ve never loved. Conversely, military and workwear have a lot of form-follows-function staples that present that function efficiently from an economic perspective, but not a material one. Just have the wearer do more squats if they complain. Anyway, my frustration is that often with tech wear I feel like the individual disappears behind the clothes, maybe as a protest to the commodification of identity and information in our current age. This jacket doesn’t do that, and it feels a bit less like it’s wearing you. It also feels a bit less “tech wear” perhaps, though I think my definition there is a bit limited.

Anyway, my intent with this jacket is to wear it heavily, casually, and across a bunch of needs. So will report back on how it survives. Big points of concern are the zipper and the Goretex stretching ribbing. It seems pretty solid, but especially around the hands I imagine that level of contact with that kind of material will lead to sweat and potentially material degradation. But hopefully this’ll be a key piece for years. Hope this helps, 

https://acrnm.com/products/J59-GT_SS19

Also a thought:
https://www.heddels.com/2015/03/william-gibson-interview-buzz-rickson-line-tech-wear-limits-authenticity/

 

—-

Today
One month in, I love this thing.

Some big things:
- Silhouette is very flexible thanks to the draw string and dual zipper. I’ve found the sweet spot for me, but have actually manipulated it from time to time depending on what I’m looking for that day. Definitely a more casual look.
- The pockets are huge and useful, but zip them closed. Somewhere in Copenhagen, there is an outlier beanie that slipped out. I wish there was a bit of a well under the zipped area to catch such things.
- The hood is awesome. I’ve also swapped it on and off again depending on what I’m looking for.
- The chest snap is key. It basically lets the j59 semi-structured silhouette work without being zipped shut.
- The 2L at the cuffs seems to work fine and has been nice in the incredibly windy Denmark. Still slightly worried about a sweat and oil collection there but haven’t noticed anything yet.
- I’m a backpack person primarily, and sadly it looks kind of sloppy with a backpack. I usually wear a messenger bag with it now.
- I have an 8mo old who I often cart around in an ergobaby chest harness, and this thing somehow makes that look okay layered over the harness and open at the front. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Anyway, all told a big purchase that I was nervous about, but I’ve been super happy. I think I will get a more structured acronym jacket as well, but down the road and likely not in GT. 

Let me know if you have any questions, as there still seem to be one or two on the site.

Do you know what the round velcro patch on the left sleeve and the square velcro patch on the front pocket are for? Are they just for sticking a velcro accessory on?

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1 hour ago, HumphreytheWarrior said:

Do you know what the round velcro patch on the left sleeve and the square velcro patch on the front pocket are for? Are they just for sticking a velcro accessory on?

Yeah ... you can put some military badges on there should you wish as per the J16-GT Velcro shoulder flaps. I don’t believe there is any other technical reason for those. 

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4 hours ago, HumphreytheWarrior said:

Do you know what the round velcro patch on the left sleeve and the square velcro patch on the front pocket are for? Are they just for sticking a velcro accessory on?

The square one is an affordance for the chest snap. The shoulder one I think is just decorative.

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I fantasize of an Acronym down jacket. I suppose the closest thing we currently have is the j65-ws.

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2 hours ago, jeddyhsu said:

I fantasize of an Acronym down jacket. I suppose the closest thing we currently have is the j65-ws.

J58-WS

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2 hours ago, jeddyhsu said:

I fantasize of an Acronym down jacket. I suppose the closest thing we currently have is the j65-ws.

J78 got that slim puffy down feel 

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i'm shopping for moto gear, and i'm finding it increasingly ironic how much inspiration some ACR stuff gets from that realm but the functionality of the pants and jackets is largely limited to urban commuter. would be nice to see functionality taken to the next level; not just made for walking. i might wear some armor under my bulkier pants like p24, but for the most part these pieces are aching for cordura, leather, and accommodating armor inserts. also would fill a nice gap in the market because unless you're sacrificing protection, proper "cool" riding gear doesn't exist. all very heavily branded and function obvious. 

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15 hours ago, nodre said:

i'm shopping for moto gear, and i'm finding it increasingly ironic how much inspiration some ACR stuff gets from that realm but the functionality of the pants and jackets is largely limited to urban commuter. would be nice to see functionality taken to the next level; not just made for walking. i might wear some armor under my bulkier pants like p24, but for the most part these pieces are aching for cordura, leather, and accommodating armor inserts. also would fill a nice gap in the market because unless you're sacrificing protection, proper "cool" riding gear doesn't exist. all very heavily branded and function obvious. 

Yeah, the inspiration is pretty clear there. What’s interesting is a lot of the moto gear gets either nostalgic or branded, whereas Acr feels like it takes that nostalgia and function, and then looks forward instead of backwards.

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On 12/31/2019 at 9:19 PM, nathan_ said:

Happy New Year from Australia, Acrnm stans :) 

aubrey is that u lol

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12 hours ago, nathan_ said:

@moneytalks doxxed :mellow:

it me, daniel of the internets

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just got my P31- very nice. hopefully these will return.

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Personally I noticed some subtle trends that quite a few number of users are leaving the brand(me too with cutting down some collections but I’ll still stick with those best of best designs, thank god they still good enough for future of the days).

 

Knowing it’s destiny but how you guys estimate the final curtain of it? Yeah you might name it too pessimistic but I definitely might call it true as it still a small business and could fade away any soon.

 

Like too much recycled designs, or the still skyrocketing prices or no else new one entering the market as new users supporting the game?

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1 hour ago, Xu Jianfeng said:

Personally I noticed some subtle trends that quite a few number of users are leaving the brand(me too with cutting down some collections but I’ll still stick with those best of best designs, thank god they still good enough for future of the days).

 

Knowing it’s destiny but how you guys estimate the final curtain of it? Yeah you might name it too pessimistic but I definitely might call it true as it still a small business and could fade away any soon.

 

Like too much recycled designs, or the still skyrocketing prices or no else new one entering the market as new users supporting the game?

Considering prices aren't slowing down and keep increasing and general quality, although still pretty good but has significantly decreased from previous collections I personally see acronym becoming more of an archival brand with users buying more and more second hand previous generation styles instead of the newer ones, I'll still support E whatever he does regardless but can't see many newer people staying on with him

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