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9 hours ago, TEKsevenZERO said:

always thought that the whole jacketsling thing was a little pointless, got in the way when wearing the jacket and never used it always felt restricted by it

This is a good example of YMMV in real life. The sling is basically the only acr jacket “tech” that I actually use regularly, and I really miss it when I wear a jacket without it... The last few weeks traveling it was very useful since days would often start cold and rainy, then get hot. Saved me having to stuff the jacket in a bag or just carry it around. 

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seems legit to me but would consider it anyway cause the material is shite 

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1 hour ago, henrisan said:

seems legit to me but would consider it anyway cause the material is shite 

Wut?

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2 hours ago, beepy said:

Fadezzzzz

 

Smh... The fading and patina are half the allure. Worn in stotz looks way better in general even if you don’t take it to the point of heavy wear where it’s true character shines. 

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11 hours ago, brainerd666 said:

 

Smh... The fading and patina are half the allure. Worn in stotz looks way better in general even if you don’t take it to the point of heavy wear where it’s true character shines. 

Couldn't agree more. Stotz is incredible.

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17 hours ago, brainerd666 said:

The fading and patina are half the allure. Worn in stotz looks way better in general even if you don’t take it to the point of heavy wear where it’s true character shines. 

I don't know man. Paying 1000USD+ for pants that will look like you wore them for 10 years after 6 months? I wore P10-DS almost daily for 3 years and they still looked fresh, that's really good investment. I had to dye my -E jackets once a year so I could go to work without looking like a bum.

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Tbh stotz isnt a vintage waxed cotton/canvas that will aged beautifully. Just one more gimmick from E about lovely patina etc.

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yeah imho stotz doesn't 'develop patina' it just ends up looking ragged as fuck.

Edited by Inkinsurgent

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5 hours ago, leg said:

I don't know man. Paying 1000USD+ for pants that will look like you wore them for 10 years after 6 months? I wore P10-DS almost daily for 3 years and they still looked very good, that's really good investment. I had to dye my -E jackets once a year so I could go to work without looking like a bum.

I wore my P10-S almost daily for over a year and they didn’t look like what you’re describing by any means. It took close to three years of pretty heavy wear for any frays to form anywhere. Also- why are you equating epic cotton with stotz?

 

1 hour ago, Yan90 said:

Tbh stotz isnt a vintage waxed cotton/canvas that will aged beautifully. Just one more gimmick from E about lovely patina etc.

Nah you’re wrong. The aforementioned P10’s did develop patina akin to canvas/leather. The only reason I sold them is due to my my legs getting too swole for them. I was sad to see them go as they’d held up/aged better than any selvedge I’ve worn. 

Not trying to stan for stotz over here but to say it’s shit material is ridiculous. Yeah it’s different than DS. No shit. Some of us like our clothes to look lived in regardless of price. And enough with the price tag nonsense already. Shit is tired. 

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1 hour ago, brainerd666 said:

I wore my P10-S almost daily for over a year and they didn’t look like what you’re describing by any means. It took close to three years of pretty heavy wear for any frays to form anywhere. Also- why are you equating epic cotton with stotz?

 

Nah you’re wrong. The aforementioned P10’s did develop patina akin to canvas/leather. The only reason I sold them is due to my my legs getting too swole for them. I was sad to see them go as they’d held up/aged better than any selvedge I’ve worn. 

Not trying to stan for stotz over here but to say it’s shit material is ridiculous. Yeah it’s different than DS. No shit. Some of us like our clothes to look lived in regardless of price. And enough with the price tag nonsense already. Shit is tired. 

Yep. Ima right. I prefer patina on my faxed canvas items (propert of..., Barbour ) over my raf stotz (just ugly discoloration on hi wear areas). Imo stotz patina isnt cool. Especially black stotz. 

But I love the shape and thickness of stotz. An amazing stacks on my P10, 23. RAF is one of my fav color btw

 

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nvm this is like chocolate vs vanilla or some dumb shit

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Wearing my 3a-3ts (x-pac) almost daily for quite a while now. I think it's an awesome bag which could maybe have some more "features" (compared to e.g. bagjack sniper bag, etc.) but the overall size, material and design is perfect for me. So far so good - but one thing that's bugging me is the prominent crease it makes  above the main zipper (see picture), which is no real way around. Is it just me or are other people here having the same "issue"? Does the 3a-1 this as well? Any way to fix that? Or is it not a bug and more like kind of a feature? ;)

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This happens to all 3ts', it's normal.

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On 8/1/2019 at 7:58 PM, emenel said:

This is a good example of YMMV in real life. The sling is basically the only acr jacket “tech” that I actually use regularly, and I really miss it when I wear a jacket without it... The last few weeks traveling it was very useful since days would often start cold and rainy, then get hot. Saved me having to stuff the jacket in a bag or just carry it around. 

Same, really do use the sling a lot and love that it's there when I'm hot.

Exterior vs. interior is a tough call. I prefer exterior personally, but when in Ldn for example I'm conscious that some drunkard might find it irresistible to yank, or it'll get snagged on something like a door handle Inspector Clousea style lol 

Gravity pockets, I'm glad they exist but they don't get much use if any. I used to put an oyster card in there, but don't use one anymore.

TBH with all those features, escape zip, force lock etc, I can't say I use them much but I'm glad they are there, because they look cool to me and it's nice to have the option of use..

Be cool to see some new modern day features also, air pod specific mini pocket on chest / chest interior would be pretty sick 

 

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2 hours ago, dixonschneider said:

Wearing my 3a-3ts (x-pac) almost daily for quite a while now. I think it's an awesome bag which could maybe have some more "features" (compared to e.g. bagjack sniper bag, etc.) but the overall size, material and design is perfect for me. So far so good - but one thing that's bugging me is the prominent crease it makes  above the main zipper (see picture), which is no real way around. Is it just me or are other people here having the same "issue"? Does the 3a-1 this as well? Any way to fix that? Or is it not a bug and more like kind of a feature? ;)

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It’s normal for the X-Pac models at least. My old laminate 3A-1 barely sagged there, but my X-Pac 3A-1 does it like crazy. Eventually leads to creasing and separation of the backer from the woven nylon face, so I’ve patched it with Dyneema tape, and that seems to be holding up fine.

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My laminat doesn’t sag either

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Looks like some bags and a belt have just dropped for FW1920 on the mothersite. That 3A-5 looks interesting. 

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Would've been nice if the MP1 included a force lock instead of the logo tape.

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46 minutes ago, jeddyhsu said:

Would've been nice if the MP1 included a force lock instead of the logo tape.

Old versions did.

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Grabbed a 3A-2, after months of anticipatory refreshing on the mothersite. Always wanted one.

Looking at the product photos, it looks like the J47-GT is getting interops next time around.

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4 minutes ago, junkie_dolphin said:

Grabbed a 3A-2, after months of anticipatory refreshing on the mothersite. Always wanted one.

Looking at the product photos, it looks like the J47-GT is getting interops next time around.

How much was it? Can't see the price due to it being sold out

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damn mp1 is sweet but not wanting to spend that much on it right now :wacko:

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2 minutes ago, jasonlao said:

How much was it? Can't see the price due to it being sold out

388 euro with ship

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4 minutes ago, jasonlao said:

How much was it? Can't see the price due to it being sold out

~345eur before VAT and shipping, which is roughly in line with price hikes over the past few years.

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4 minutes ago, Kamikaze said:

damn mp1 is sweet but not wanting to spend that much on it right now :wacko:

What fits in it though? My phone won’t... and no magnet tape. So...?

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4 minutes ago, junkie_dolphin said:

What fits in it though? My phone won’t... and no magnet tape. So...?

Seems like it might fit a portable phone charger which is quite handy. It also comes with a force lock magnet tape.

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