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Anyone have experience removing stains from the garment-dyed Nemen S7-C? Tempted to go at an oil stain with Oxiclean but I don't want it to do more damage.

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just throw it in washing machine, if it does not help the nemen C stuff is really easy to dye. I had to have it dyed black after a bleach incident and it turned one of the most beautiful super rich black shirts (including the threads)

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100% sure I know who it was.. small world.

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lmao the film is fast and furious. (refering to the pic of jason statham and dwayne johnson wearing custom ACR)
 

 

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how well does the 3a-1 Laminate perform in rainy weather? I have the L1 version and was wondering if a light shower would mess it up

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3 hours ago, tomatocookie said:

how well does the 3a-1 Laminate perform in rainy weather? I have the L1 version and was wondering if a light shower would mess it up

I have a 3A-1 in L2 from 15/16, and so far it's held up beautifully against light-medium rains, with no visible damage.

I also have a 5TS in L1 from 13/14 with a couple of years' wear on it, and the material is starting to age rapidly, so I'd expect these to have a little less resistance. I might be wrong though.

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1 hour ago, lopiteaux said:

I have a 3A-1 in L2 from 15/16, and so far it's held up beautifully against light-medium rains, with no visible damage.

I also have a 5TS in L1 from 13/14 with a couple of years' wear on it, and the material is starting to age rapidly, so I'd expect these to have a little less resistance. I might be wrong though.

I have the 3a-1 L2 from that random restock in spring 2017(?) and it's done well in the light/medium showers. A little water does get in sometimes though but it doesn't bother me too much. I have the 5ts in grey laminate and it's survived light showers despite the laminate peeling everywhere.

Thought I'd also add that one of the zipper pulls on my 3a-1 broke last week. Didn't last as long as I thought it would but luckily I had a hardware piece from work that I clipped into the zipper bale.

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2016 3ts w/Raccagni zip over here. Worn practically daily for close to 3 years and have used it in all kinds of wet weather from downpours to freezing rain and haven’t noticed any leakage going on. 

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Bonjour to the community, my first post here! 

I have a question about the legitimacy of a pair of p17. Bought from eBay, these size l pants have a gargantuan 40 inch waist (all size charts online state it’s supposed to be something like 34) and a dodgy looking 3x dry label inside. Would appreciate your help. Pics attached.

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50 minutes ago, Leviathan_division said:

Bonjour to the community, my first post here! 

I have a question about the legitimacy of a pair of p17. Bought from eBay, these size l pants have a gargantuan 40 inch waist (all size charts online state it’s supposed to be something like 34) and a dodgy looking 3x dry label inside. Would appreciate your help. Pics attached.

Cinch them.  Label looks fine.  See reference for fit:

https://hbx.com/brands/acronym/p17-ds-schoeller-r-dryskin-drawcord-trouser

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Yeah, that looks great. The guidance posted on Acronym's website says that the L is made for a 34" waist, but, it's massively oversized, and designed to be cinched, as @thatslapz explained.

Enjoy them, the P17's are ridiculously good!

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1 hour ago, thatslapz said:

Cinch them.  Label looks fine.  See reference for fit:

https://hbx.com/brands/acronym/p17-ds-schoeller-r-dryskin-drawcord-trouser

 

21 minutes ago, lopiteaux said:

Yeah, that looks great. The guidance posted on Acronym's website says that the L is made for a 34" waist, but, it's massively oversized, and designed to be cinched, as @thatslapz explained.

Enjoy them, the P17's are ridiculously good!

Brilliant, thanks guys! Wasn't prepared for them to be this huge. Cinched them and it all seems to work a lot better. 

Should I expect similar waist oversize from all acronym pants? Am intrigued by the P23-S, usually wearing 34" should I go for size medium?

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7 minutes ago, Leviathan_division said:

Brilliant, thanks guys! Wasn't prepared for them to be this huge. Cinched them and it all seems to work a lot better. 

Should I expect similar waist oversize from all acronym pants? Am intrigued by the P23-S, usually wearing 34" should I go for size medium?

Don't mention it :)

P15, P17, P22 and P23 all have the same waist... I'm not certain, as I haven't owned them, but I think P25 and P27 do too.

I'm usually a 34 or 36, depending on the brand, and wear a M in P17, P22 and P23. It all depends on your preference, really - the guideline is usually to go with the length that works for you.

Btw, someone posted a really helpful fit pic comparison between S, M and L of the same block a while ago. I'm not sure when, you'll have to do some digging, but will be very helpful.

P.S. It's worth mentioning that the fit will vary *slightly* depending on the fabric. I find that the Stotz is a little tighter than the DS/CH of the same model.

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9 minutes ago, Leviathan_division said:

 

Brilliant, thanks guys! Wasn't prepared for them to be this huge. Cinched them and it all seems to work a lot better. 

Should I expect similar waist oversize from all acronym pants? Am intrigued by the P23-S, usually wearing 34" should I go for size medium?

No, only the P17 and P23 have massive waists that have to be cinched. (And maybe the -15s? I can't remember, I don't have those.) P24 is a high waist pattern, and they come up a bit large. P16s are true to size, also meant to be a high waist. P9s are more of a low waist cut, and come up a bit smaller. P14s come up very small, although that might have just been the one season.

And yeah, that 3xdry tag doesn't look dodgy at all. 

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3 minutes ago, drgitlin said:

No, only the P17 and P23 have massive waists that have to be cinched. (And maybe the -15s? I can't remember, I don't have those.) P24 is a high waist pattern, and they come up a bit large. P9s are more of a low waist cut, and come up a bit smaller. P13s (or maybe P14s - not the motocross ones) come up very small. 

+P22

Great guidance on the rest, have always wondered about the P9s!

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6 minutes ago, dreamboatjustsoul said:

Would be grateful if anyone could tell me where those fit pics are.

Struggling with the pants size as well. thanks in advance.

On this thread, about 6 months back I think.

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1 minute ago, lopiteaux said:

On this thread, about 6 months back I think.

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On 4/11/2018 at 6:53 PM, Z-11 said:

I agree with AvantSol. I have three different pairs of p23 in different sizes and materials. p23-s (S) looks good, but they are not very convenient (tensed in calves), p23ts-ch (XL) are long enough and wide. p23a-ds (L) are perfect. 
Also I had p10ts-ds (L) and they were long. Stretched knees below the knees looked particularly ugly. Surprisingly, but the same size in p10a-s (L) looks good.

PS I'm 5'11"

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Is this the post that you guys were referring to?

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Some more data points. 185cm / 6'1", 95kg / 210lbs (weight mostly in legs because squats are life). All are size L:

P23-S: Can get tight around the calves if they ride up (like from taking big leaps up stairs) but otherwise fit great.

P23a-DS: The stretch means there's no calf tightness ever. These are glorious.

P10-S: These are mega tight over my thighs, like I painted them on. But I often still use a belt for the waits (though honestly optional.)

P10-CH: Best pants in the world. Everything is perfect. (But I use a belt.)

Bonus round: Nosucism P10 copies: Larger, cut sags differently around knees (in a slightly negative way) and ankle zippers are further in front which is awkward. But I dounbt I could use M. A skinnier person my height should go for M though.

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I wear P10A-CH in L / P23TS-S in S (I had P17-DS in L and M and both were like fat people pants for my midget build). The golden rule posted here was to buy the ones with built-in webbing belt pullcords buy based on your weight and by waist otherwise.

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This is just spitballing—but I think what's always left out of the size discussion is "normative" fit. The above picture by @Z-11 is great because it allows you to understand the overall proportions of the garment relative to your size. The problem with internet fashion forums is the overall lack of understanding of one's own body and the relative effect of certain types of clothes on an overall aesthetic. In other words, it seems like people do not understand what clothes are fit to fit their 'fit? 

When asking for garment sizing, are you average build/height? Do you have muscle mass? Where do you carry your weight? Are you trying to wear something more slouchy? Is there a fit you're trying to emulate? Do you just want it to be in line with what the product shots do?

With regard to the super-wide Acronym pants: they allow for an interesting drape but it feels like people don't understand how a fabric even hangs on a body. In my opinion, wearing the ultra wide 25/27/30 or 15/17/22/23 super-wide pant without having mass under it looks like it's on a hangar or you're wearing an older siblings clothes. In this respect a slimmer-but-still-wide pant like the 16/24 would do the same without the silly extremeness. If effecting a more billowing silhouette is what you're looking for, I'd just do that. If you're ultra skinny, even a stacked P10 can give the slouch and looseness.

The fit models in Acronym materials have relatively athletic body types and they're all between 5'10–6' 2" or something at probably 150–180lbs with probably even weight, and thus, circumference consistent with an athletic body. Accordingly, their medium displays the normative fit for their clothing. I guess I understand though—fitting clothing requires something that's difficult: self-reflection and cognizance.

"Am I tall?" "Am I too fat?" "Is my waist too big or too small?" "Do I lack muscle mass?" The hard questions!

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I lucked out when I bought my first pair of P10-S offa grailed, (this was back in 2016 before everyone was trying to retire off their used gear). Dude was very patient with my fit questions and asked straight up what kind of build I have to save me any aggravation(Dude was jealous of my calves). Gave me the confidence to buy my first stupidly expensive pair of pants. I really like the different drapes/profiles you get across the spectrum of materials for the P10’s. 

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I am not sure the p24a-s which is shown in the official fit pic is medium. as Ian is quite tall, probably like 6'2" smt. Compared with my own fit, I think it is a large.

Same as the J65, it says E wears large, but from people previous post, it turns out TTS. 

 

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