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On 6/2/2018 at 7:32 PM, Kamikaze said:

I’ve had some problems with the j28k. I believe it’s delaminating? Such a shame since I wore it on and off for such a short amount of time 

I had the same problem after I washed mine for the first time (hand washed in Nikwax Tech Wash).

If anyone's wondering on the durability of the K material... it sucks. In these pictures, the dark areas/dots are the spots where the jacket is delaminating. In addition to being prone to delaminating, it stains easily too.

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Thats what E would call, interior patina of the Japanese membrane to underscore wabi sabi aesthetic. Or some bullsh*t like that.

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that sucks to see. the material around my collar is starting to delaminate. i wash it after a couple of wears with tech wash as well. hopefully people see these flaws and don't spend a ton of money on the k fabric jackets. such a shame

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Sweat and oils are really bad for laminated fabrics. Both for performance and longevity. I wonder if post fabric production dyeing or other processes may have striped any oleophobic (oil repellent) treatment the fabric may have had. 

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21 hours ago, X.bee said:

Thats what E would call, interior patina of the Japanese membrane to underscore wabi sabi aesthetic. Or some bullsh*t like that.

lol.

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What the deal with a delaminated fabric, is it sill effective at keeping one dry or safe from the wind? or does it render the technical properties of the fabric moot?

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looks more like holy grail x kojima collab to me

Edited by danii

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FYI I took a lot of detailed photos of both J1A-GT and J1A-GTV, to help with future LC. They are more different than I would have expected: the GTV has these mysterious velcro tabs on the upper arm, the collar/hood is different, and the dimensions of various panels are a bit different all around. You can see them here:

https://imgur.com/a/M7cYMhY

https://imgur.com/a/vy3K487

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The J1A-GTPL has those "mysterious" velcro tabs too - apparently they're meant to allow you to roll up your sleeves and hold them in place - I never figured out how to do that without it looking awkward though.

How's the collar/hood different? Just the "cover" on the hood's snap buttons?

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41 minutes ago, eyesolation said:

The J1A-GTPL has those "mysterious" velcro tabs too - apparently they're meant to allow you to roll up your sleeves and hold them in place - I never figured out how to do that without it looking awkward though.

How's the collar/hood different? Just the "cover" on the hood's snap buttons?

Bizarre they left those off the paclite version, where arguably they're way more useful. I make use of them on my J22 (2.5 layer pro shell) an awful lot.

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30 minutes ago, X.bee said:

I would usually just push my sleeves up instead of rolling and secure the elastic loop with the velcro tab.

Same... these are actually one feature i use a lot on jackets with them, but it’s pretty impossible on any with gravity pockets 

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6 hours ago, X.bee said:

I would usually just push my sleeves up instead of rolling and secure the elastic loop with the velcro tab.

Same. As for pictures, I’ll see if I get a chance but I’m traveling a lot right now so it might be a few weeks. 

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On 10/3/2013 at 3:26 PM, Appleseed said:

Undo sleeve velcro > push sleeve up forearm > velcro hitch tab to sleeve > re-fasten sleeve velcro back over hitch tab.

 

Sleeve now stays in place on forearm.

 

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Yeah, the bit that bunches up should be around your elbow, which keeps restriction of movement to a minimum. And definitely don't try rolling it!

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That J47A-WS is looking mighty interesting (Spotted in the P30-CH product photos for those wondering).

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