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3 minutes ago, robbatussin said:

 

All it takes is two seasons to change one's mind.

I don't think this guy contradicted himself enough to justify you digging up his old posts.

unless you were trying to demonstrate something in a more broad sense

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Heh, we're still buying. Let's think about this, if anyone was in Errolson's position, with a child, model gf, etc. would you charge less than what the market would bear? I'm not sure anyone would, Errolson, like the majority of folks is trying to live his best life—if we don't like it, we should vote with abstaining from voting with our wallets and let the stock sit. Otherwise, continue copping and support price creep and the advancement and development of Acronym.

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i see no reason why acronym would have incentive NOT to raise prices. no other brand even comes close, awareness of resale market, inflation, fair worker compensation.. if he constructs it they will come. maybe if acr had a competitor it would incentivize competitive pricing, but there is no competition - he really is in a class of 1. considering this is his life's work and how much greater the demand is than the supply.. ya. i'd raise prices too.

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I think everyone is just voicing out their frustration which is warranted if you believe the supply chain/manufacturing issues that raised the priced on everyone.  We cant vent? cmon 

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4 minutes ago, Flipflop214 said:

I think everyone is just voicing out their frustration which is warranted if you believe the supply chain/manufacturing issues that raised the priced on everyone.  We cant vent? cmon 

Not just being contrarian, it's his living and it's our hobby, just trying to retain perspective.

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this thread really should change it's name to the whining and moaning ACR vent thread HEADS ONLY.. or just be like p2w and take our frustrations out on the culture.

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So I snagged the pants in olive, my P16A-CH in black are holding up but I need another color. I had the jacket in my cart but it was gone by the time I checked out. Anyone know if they'll be dropping elsewhere?

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He's made it clear whether through tweet replies or IG comments that cost of production continues to rise past what they're happy with. Coupled with his staunch adherence to the idea that manufacturing clothing shouldn't be evil towards its labor and you get these prices. 

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based on e's twitter it sounds like we're going to be dealing with this on a month to month basis.

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57 minutes ago, CARLOOA said:

Heh, we're still buying. Let's think about this, if anyone was in Errolson's position, with a child, model gf, etc. would you charge less than what the market would bear? I'm not sure anyone would, Errolson, like the majority of folks is trying to live his best life—if we don't like it, we should vote with abstaining from voting with our wallets and let the stock sit. Otherwise, continue copping and support price creep and the advancement and development of Acronym.

I think the issue is that I don't think the market can bear those prices over the long-term. Maintaining this kind of brand desirability over the medium / long-term is extremely hard and you can only manage it by insuring you maintain a large number of brand supporters. I think the issue with the recent price hikes is that no one in their right mind can pay 1,200 EUR for pants so pieces tend to be bought more and more by rich assholes with fuck-you money who are buying it cause it's the cool thing of the moment and aren't likely to stay invested in the brand long-term. . 

I think this is going to have an impact of the image of the brand. Up until about 1-2 years ago, whenever I saw someone in ACR (which didn't happen often), they always seemed to dressed so well and be people I could hang out with, but nowadays, it seems ACR has become one of key element of the princeling fucbois uniform along with Off-White and Vetements and I cringe most of the time I see people wearing it (I also live in fucbois central so they are very visible). These people have no taste and are only buying what's cool to show off and as they move on from streetwear, I am not sure you will see a new generation emerge willing to buy ACR. As a result, the coolness factor of the brand has gone down quite a bit for me and there are alternatives.

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6 minutes ago, synapse said:

I don't think this guy contradicted himself enough to justify you digging up his old posts.

unless you were trying to demonstrate something in a more broad sense

Nothing personal to OP. It was a popular post and dozens of people on here rallied behind it. Been alive long enough to know that wouldn't be a popular sentiment for long so the post wasn't very far from reach. Calling the ears of the collective rather than OP.

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Consider/discuss : If only there was innovation, Iove Acronym but consistently see the P10 / J1A show reruns rather that the new styles that divide opinion then galvanize it after people settle into the groove, remember that the CP1/CP2 happened years before the overground the J28 also but we've seen that trotted out on several occasions now too.

If a fair wage is in the debate then take preorders and stagger production based on demand, no one will complain and no arguments can be given and income will be constant and fund extra shifts at mill!

 

As far as competitors there are a handful, the sibling SISP, then you have Uber and vellance on the clean minimal front, Vollebak on the fabric innovation for active folk, Rick on the prgressive fashion avant garde, etc etc, seek and ye shall find aplenty, but I'm a little saddened that all is released is all but the new colour schemes and a paclite version of the alpha.

I have high hopes but wavering, never thought I'd say that

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19 minutes ago, TEKsevenZERO said:

Consider/discuss : If only there was innovation, Iove Acronym but consistently see the P10 / J1A show reruns rather that the new styles that divide opinion then galvanize it after people settle into the groove, remember that the CP1/CP2 happened years before the overground the J28 also but we've seen that trotted out on several occasions now too.

If a fair wage is in the debate then take preorders and stagger production based on demand, no one will complain and no arguments can be given and income will be constant and fund extra shifts at mill!

 

As far as competitors there are a handful, the sibling SISP, then you have Uber and vellance on the clean minimal front, Vollebak on the fabric innovation for active folk, Rick on the prgressive fashion avant garde, etc etc, seek and ye shall find aplenty, but I'm a little saddened that all is released is all but the new colour schemes and a paclite version of the alpha.

I have high hopes but wavering, never thought I'd say that

100% with Tek.... inly new feature in the past serveral years was AuxZip? Which has been done before. I’m still mostly all in in the design, albeit would like to see more diversity: capes, blazers, etc, but would love more innovation.

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On 4/11/2018 at 5:00 PM, AvantSol said:

Yeah I'm about 5' 8" and finding that itis very dependent on material and style type. Generally I hear if they are 'normal' style trousers you go tts while baggier items is "size for length".

I have a pair of p10 DS in medium, they fit fine. They are just a little long on me but are good when I pull them up. While my ch pair fit perfectly length and  don't need to pull them too high. And I find the CH material to look a little slimmer. But then again there could be a bunch of factors; washing, seasonal alterations(if any) etc.

Now for 23s I have to get a small because they are way too long for me for a medium and look ridiculous when I rise them.

 

On 4/12/2018 at 8:35 AM, Yan90 said:

Im 5'10", 80-82 kg.  P10 fits ok only in S for this height. Thas why in L size they looks ugly (articulated knees are in the wrong position). P10 DS in medium looks bad, but in size S - perfect.

CH defenetly isnt looks slimmer than DS. Cuz of more dense material CH have more pronounced and "rigid" stacks.

 

On 4/12/2018 at 7:55 PM, lxkhor said:

This is weird. I am the same height and weight and Medium fits perfect for me in P10-DS. 

Do you guys have fit pics of your P10-DS's?  Thanks!

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the j66-gt looks interesting. don't know if anyone called it out yet

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if you think this is about fair wages only you're delusional. erlsn is essentially the new rick. he'd be crazy not to make bank off of this hype.

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I mean, fine, but a year or two of his gear being worn by no one but Russian oligarch offspring and it'll be as tainted as Edd Hardy. 

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1 hour ago, Kasper said:

I think the issue is that I don't think the market can bear those prices over the long-term. Maintaining this kind of brand desirability over the medium / long-term is extremely hard and you can only manage it by insuring you maintain a large number of brand supporters. I think the issue with the recent price hikes is that no one in their right mind can pay 1,200 EUR for pants so pieces tend to be bought more and more by rich assholes with fuck-you money who are buying it cause it's the cool thing of the moment and aren't likely to stay invested in the brand long-term. 

Agree that these prices aren't sustainable.  I have a feeling that FW 1819 is gonna be a good lineup, and if not, the disappointment will likely cause people not to cop which will lead to items sitting on the shelves like back in the day.

at this point, as much as i dont want to, i will likely only be able to afford 1 piece a season or more likely a year so at least i'm picking and choosing more wisely.  but still, $2k for paclite is blowing my mind. i bet a hardshell in FW 1819 will retail at like 2.5k usd 

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6 minutes ago, segue said:

Agree that these prices aren't sustainable.  I have a feeling that FW 1819 is gonna be a good lineup, and if not, the disappointment will likely cause people not to cop which will lead to items sitting on the shelves like back in the day.

at this point, as much as i dont want to, i will likely only be able to afford 1 piece a season or more likely a year so at least i'm picking and choosing more wisely.  but still, $2k for paclite is blowing my mind. i bet a hardshell in FW 1819 will retail at like 2.5k usd 

2.5k usd is very close to the retail of the GT jacket for FW

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13 minutes ago, drgitlin said:

I mean, fine, but a year or two of his gear being worn by no one but Russian oligarch offspring and it'll be as tainted as Edd Hardy. 

whenever i look at my trusty old SS-j2 i feel like acrnm is in that place already and i feel kinda sad.

 

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1 hour ago, llirreM_hpesoJ said:

2.5k usd is very close to the retail of the GT jacket for FW

The j66 or something else? 

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Same. Saw someone thinking it was the shoes but I don't think that makes any sense... acrnm shades incoming 

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Some difference I've noticed within the new P10-S raf and the older one:

  • New raf C/W is more noticeably olive rather than brown (questionable)
  • Olive ankle zippers instead of black

 

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p10-s.PNGNEW

Edited by Toilettebun

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it's pretty difficult to judge the Raf colour from their studio shots. I have a feeling that it's never really been that brown in any season. Not sure if it's every really changed. My pair from fw1213 is very green. I like the matching zip colour tho.

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5 hours ago, Kasper said:

I think the issue is that I don't think the market can bear those prices over the long-term. Maintaining this kind of brand desirability over the medium / long-term is extremely hard and you can only manage it by insuring you maintain a large number of brand supporters. I think the issue with the recent price hikes is that no one in their right mind can pay 1,200 EUR for pants so pieces tend to be bought more and more by rich assholes with fuck-you money who are buying it cause it's the cool thing of the moment and aren't likely to stay invested in the brand long-term. . 

I think this is going to have an impact of the image of the brand. Up until about 1-2 years ago, whenever I saw someone in ACR (which didn't happen often), they always seemed to dressed so well and be people I could hang out with, but nowadays, it seems ACR has become one of key element of the princeling fucbois uniform along with Off-White and Vetements and I cringe most of the time I see people wearing it (I also live in fucbois central so they are very visible). These people have no taste and are only buying what's cool to show off and as they move on from streetwear, I am not sure you will see a new generation emerge willing to buy ACR. As a result, the coolness factor of the brand has gone down quite a bit for me and there are alternatives.

For me personally I think an unseen consequence of the price rises is Acronym isolating what it makes sense to wear their things with. Some wear it with brands vaguely on the same hype level like off whack, a cold piss and shitimints. Some wear it with brands that cost similar. But it's rare to see it with bits on the same design level, no matter how obscure, not just buying into the 'look'.
This as well as the customer base's preference for statement pieces. I don't want to recognize people wearing Acronym. I don't want people to recognize me wearing Acronym.

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