Acronym.

[CARLOOA]

26 minutes ago, danii said:

RLY? I mean yeah there is a 70EUR difference on J57, but it's a physical store compared to ENDs and ACRNM.COMs and the stuff is imported from europe. There is 1EUR difference on the nemen cotton pieces tho. Y-3 is even cheaper at haven than at Y-3.com. SISP pants are 58EUR cheaper at haven then at END.

So keep calm and support your local store, be glad that the shop with best selection (that goes in sale) is in your country and don't cry.

It's crazy how myopic our consumerism has become that we're just purely looking at the short term savings. These stores are the reason ACRNM even has the exposure/development to bring us this shit. I'll gladly purchase from these shops to keep them alive. We're talking a 5–7% variance on shit that's $1k+ let's not be dickheads. 

[@gnrsn]

How's the sizing for the P23TS? I'm a size 29 denim, 180cm tall so figured I'd need smalls. Then I came upon this horrendous styling by END...

Spoiler

 

Edited March 28, 2017 by Endless

[barto]

P23-ts are huuuuge but yeah a small would be good

[rnstyip]

15 minutes ago, Endless said:

How's the sizing for the P23TS? I'm a size 29 denim, 180cm tall so figured I'd need smalls.

You need to size your P23TSs according to the length, not the waist, since the waist of the trousers is guaranteed to be huge. You'd probably want either a medium or a large considering how tall you are.

[CARLOOA]

Remember to size for length on big pants:

AND TO PREEMPT THE QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE NEW-ISH regarding pants and jackets: (assuming fabric choices stay the same)

FAQ:

Pant Fabrics

CH: schoeller microtwill is cotton and aramid blend (mild fire resistance so as to qualify for protective clothing HS code)—some iterations treated with coldblack UV/heat protection.

DS: schoeller dryskin is nylon.

S: stotz etaproof is long staple cotton.

Fabric Qualities

Weather Protection: S>CH>DS

Breathability: DS>CH>S.

Fabric weight is CH>S>DS.

Colorfastness: DS>CH>S.

Abrasion resistance: CH/S>DS.

Stretch: DS (4 way)>CH (2 way minimal)>S (none).

Jacket Fabrics

GT: Gore Tex Pro fully nylon construction, 3L microgrid backer, air permeable ePTFE membrane, nylon face fabric. 

WS: 2.5L fully nylon construction, air/water permeable ePTFE membrane backer, nylon face.

S: stotz etaproof is long staple cotton.

Fabric Qualities

Weather protection: GT>S>WS.

Breathability: WS/S>GT.

Colorfastness: GT/WS>S.

Abrasion resistance: GT>WS>S.

Technical Garment Care:

Use technical fabric wash. It's water based and doesn't leave residue that affect the fabric characteristics.

For jackets: single wash cold, double rinse.

For S/CH: single wash gentle cycle, no spin.

For DS: singe wash cold, double rinse.

Everything is DWR'd, this is a coating on the face fabric that allows the water to bead out. With abrasion this comes off, to reactivate wash, reapply, and depending on what DWR, tumble dry or iron. I use Grangers.

Edited March 26, 2017 by CARLOOA

[phillasher]

28 minutes ago, Endless said:

How's the sizing for the P23TS? I'm a size 29 denim, 180cm tall so figured I'd need smalls. Then I came upon this horrendous styling by END...

 

given your height, M is your best bet. S could work if you have relatively short legs but not gonna find any S's unless u pay a fortune. they all fit so huge that it'll feel like an ass balloon. even the end ppl (notorious for putting huge ppl into the smallest sizes possible) prolly clip it in the back to get that thigh gap.

Edited March 25, 2017 by phillasher

[Inkinsurgent]

this is the weirdest end fit ever in a long fuckin history of weird end fits

[StolenBread]

8 hours ago, Endless said:

How's the sizing for the P23TS?

 

I just grabbed a pair off grailed, pretty stoked right now, now I need to resist the urge to buy this upcoming drop

[forino]

. Made a video on reasons to stay clear from 1000deaths

[zeusneckone]

That's unfortunate on so many levels. Great video btw!

[Kamikaze]

On 3/25/2017 at 1:06 PM, Endless said:

How's the sizing for the P23TS? I'm a size 29 denim, 180cm tall so figured I'd need smalls. Then I came upon this horrendous styling by END...

 

 

definitely medium or large. had to remove the picture cause i didnt want to see it on this page

[Xenomorph]

3 hours ago, forino said:

. Made a video on reasons to stay clear from 1000deaths

All this was clear from the very beginning

IMO

[gaogotspy]

need help for the sizing of j50-s,  i'm 6 feet tall and have longer arms, for other clothes and jacket small fits ok

how does j50-s fit?

should i jack up a size to medium for j50-s? 

 

[RemarkableArmor]

16 minutes ago, gaogotspy said:

need help for the sizing of j50-s,  i'm 6 feet tall and have longer arms, for other clothes and jacket small fits ok

how does j50-s fit?

should i jack up a size to medium for j50-s? 

 

Check the website for the measurements. Get your normal size if you want it fitted, size up if you want to layer underneath.

[hoju]

7 hours ago, gaogotspy said:

need help for the sizing of j50-s,  i'm 6 feet tall and have longer arms, for other clothes and jacket small fits ok

how does j50-s fit?

should i jack up a size to medium for j50-s? 

 

Go with medium.

[StolenBread]

10 hours ago, Maxim Kutuzov said:

All this was clear from the very beginning

IMO

Agreed, saw his collab with some site that was listed on a japanese domain, dodged it all together. Glad I did too, there's been so many posts about people complaining about how they haven't gotten their orders or a response from him. You can spend 70-80 USD on your own cobra belt and then just customize if yourself

[moneytalks]

Hi guys quick question.. had these FW1617 P10A-S for a minute (from Hotoveli) and realised that they don't have the waterproof taping on the cargo pocket zips, why is that? 

[DiglettDigs]

11 minutes ago, moneytalks said:

Hi guys quick question.. had these FW1617 P10A-S for a minute (from Hotoveli) and realised that they don't have the waterproof taping on the cargo pocket zips, why is that? 

original run (fw1516 i think) had the shiny zip, second release doesn't, not sure why.

Edited March 27, 2017 by DiglettDigs

[moneytalks]

1 hour ago, DiglettDigs said:

original run (fw1516 i think) had the shiny zip, second release doesn't, not sure why.

Bit of a strange downgrade imo. Appreciate the lighter gabardine tho (I live on the equator)

Edited March 27, 2017 by moneytalks

[piece keeper]

It's not really a downgrade. The fabric itself isn't waterproof, so whatever's in the pocket wouldn't be fully protected either way. A waterproof zipper doesn't make much sense in the first place. If anything it makes more business sense not to use them (since they cost more) as the fabric won't keep out water completely anyway.

[CARLOOA]

17 minutes ago, piece keeper said:

It's not really a downgrade. The fabric itself isn't waterproof, so whatever's in the pocket wouldn't be fully protected either way. A waterproof zipper doesn't make much sense in the first place. If anything it makes more business sense not to use them (since they cost more) as the fabric won't keep out water completely anyway.

To be precise: etaproof, like most "ventile" or weatherproof cottons swells on contact with water to prevent further penetration—so, highly water resistant?

Additionally, in the long run, the vislon waterguard is probably less durable than the regular zip—so not really a downgrade.

Edited March 27, 2017 by CARLOOA

[nigel1]

12 hours ago, piece keeper said:

It's not really a downgrade. The fabric itself isn't waterproof, so whatever's in the pocket wouldn't be fully protected either way. A waterproof zipper doesn't make much sense in the first place. If anything it makes more business sense not to use them (since they cost more) as the fabric won't keep out water completely anyway.

You're wrong - Stotz Etaproof is very water resistant, never soaked through for me even in the heaviest rains. It does get wet on the outside, but stays dry inside.

The price difference between those zippers would be 50 cents max, it's nothing. 

Only that those waterproof zippers are a bit harder to open, but still would make more sense in that spot.

[mizzar]

1 hour ago, nigel1 said:

You're wrong - Stotz Etaproof is very water resistant, never soaked through for me even in the heaviest rains. It does get wet on the outside, but stays dry inside.

The price difference between those zippers would be 50 cents max, it's nothing. 

Only that those waterproof zippers are a bit harder to open, but still would make more sense in that spot.

my ykk supplier qoutes me 2,8x price increase on "waterproof" ykk with nonstandart camlock pools so not 50 cents

[shoreman]

https://hypebeast.com/2017/3/redditor-creates-1kcorp-belt

The internet's a helluva thing. 

 

[solographik]

5 hours ago, nigel1 said:

You're wrong - Stotz Etaproof is very water resistant, never soaked through for me even in the heaviest rains. It does get wet on the outside, but stays dry inside.

The price difference between those zippers would be 50 cents max, it's nothing. 

Only that those waterproof zippers are a bit harder to open, but still would make more sense in that spot.

I dunno what your experience has been with heavy rain, but after a 10min bike ride in what. I consider heavy rain, my -s pants are all soaked through :p. Def wouldn't consider these "very" water resistant. 

[Voyager]

2 minutes ago, solographik said:

I dunno what your experience has been with heavy rain, but after a 10min bike ride in what. I consider heavy rain, my -s pants are all soaked through :p. Def wouldn't consider these "very" water resistant. 

I have the same experience with the pants. I think the jackets last a bit longer since they're made from heavier stotz

[jediswayze]

On 3/26/2017 at 10:02 PM, forino said:

. Made a video on reasons to stay clear from 1000deaths

I hope this didn't take away from your surely prodigious output of Yelp reviews

[piece keeper]

Same experience, @solographik and @Voyager.  @nigel the pants are highly water resistant when brand new, yes, but a lot of that credit goes to the fresh DWR coating. After a few months and years that'll fade, and they will soak through pretty quick. 

[thatslapz]

Water resistance hasn't changed with Stotz fabric thickness in my experience.  I've soaked through in pants and jackets, but also been dry in the rain.  As mentioned, it depends more on how recently you washed/ironed or reproofed.  

Edited March 28, 2017 by thatslapz

[exhaust fumes]

If you want to stay dry in the rain for extended periods of time, I suggest a PVC rain suit, but they usually don't have an iPhone pocket.