dudewuttheheck

Wore my 1937s to Stanford this weekend and though the trip made me feel like a disappointment, at least I got some good pictures

Some shots at my dad's Alma Mater from the weekend. I kind of hate how pretty his school is.

Tatton Baird hat

Oliver Peoples JP shades

Himel jacket

Stevenson sweatshirt

CSF jeans

Role Club boots

12 hours ago, Broark said:

^ Not to burst your bubble but I think that shirt is this one, not made by Konaka-san (like the M54 jeans) but carried by Forty Niners and made under the same label: http://fortyniners.ocnk.net/product/676 
I would love for a CSF denim work shirt though...

Yup, Flash mentioned this as well and Konaka-San confirmed it. 

Sorry for the false excitement. If it was real though.... man I would be so pumped for it.

Possible Conners shirt?

Boy do I hope so! I will be asking Konaka-San and reporting back.

Very cool. This is great to see! I was hoping some people would do something like this. 

Pacifc, Huston, and hopefully True Loom and others will bring more options to USA made denim.

@almostvintagestyle  

6 hours ago, propellerbeanie said:

Dude, nice coffee!!!

But, seriously, that's a nice fit. I'm looking for a WW2 jacket, and this would be the one to get. I just haven't bothered researching sizing yet...

I can give you the measurements of mine at least if you'd like  

6 hours ago, Broark said:

Payment sent for my 46 1st half with green herringbone pocket bags. 

NICE!!! Can't wait to see those bad boys!

Some more detailed shots of my CSF WWII jacket

Please excuse the basic bitch coffee. I'm actually not sure if I look more like a knob if I don't say anything and allow you all to think that it's actually my coffee or if I insist on saying that I'm only holding it because my photographer/fiance couldn't hold it and the camera at the same time and that I only drink espresso  Either way I love this jacket so much!

8 hours ago, mikecch said:

I started with Japanese jeans so for quite some time I was dismissive of Cone fabrics. 

The one-off denim and duck made for the Roy and Left Field contests changed my mind though, and I do agree that those fabrics aged in a way which was natural, flavourful and interesting at various stages of wear. 

On the flip side, I do also find a lot of the stock Cone denims that all the kickstarter brands had been using to be somewhat underwhelming. I'm a huge texture freak before any consideration of vintage authenticity or indigo fading though. 

Sad to see Cone go, hopefully smaller and more versatile operations will take over the mantle. 

I have that Cone duck fabric on my Roys as well and I have to say I do LOVE this fabric specifically. I even asked Roy a couple of years ago if he was going to be able to get more of it. Definitely a fantastic duck fabric.

On 11/5/2017 at 11:30 AM, mlwdp said:

Is there such a thing as owning too many watch caps?

If you live in Southern California, there is

43 minutes ago, erk said:

I never really found the pointer coat...appealing.

has a different ring than:

the pointer coat is nice but it’s not really for me. 

Theres never been a shortage of cone baggers. Just like a lot of things people cannot appreciate the subtlety or the amount of time it takes to fade a pair.

if duders snarkiness was unintentional then whatever. I doubt it. 

I see you are still operating under the impression that there is a correct opinion on Cone.

I have seen Cone faded first hand and have seen all the subtlety that your insults lack. I still don't love it. I never said that people shouldn't love it or that it was not worthy of being a favorite mill of many. I only said it wasn't interesting to me. How is that even an insult? That does not imply that it is of inferior quality in any way. If you find it interesting? Fantastic! That's awesome. I also don't find Oni or PBJ interesting. Again, that does not mean I think it's bad denim. Also, I do own Cone products and enjoy them. It's not as though I'm against the company or something. 

I'm glad you like it so much. If we all loved the same brand and same type of denim then we'd all be obsessed with The Flat Head one year, then PBJ or Iron Heart, and then Warehouse at the same time. Oh, wait...

The ironic part is that if my comment was ignored, this thread would be spending more time actually celebrating Cone.

44 minutes ago, hudsonjames said:

Ordered one of these today, glad to get a piece of the cone denim before it's too late! I'm excited to see how it ages compared to my Japanese denim jeans.

Is that a Pointer coat?

1 hour ago, Inimitable N! said:

i read back through the thread and oddly enough the majority of posts mention LVC or Roy (as far as owning denim from white oak) as do the pics...

this might have to do with folks having issues with what they consider a "short sighted" opinion... and, yes, @dudewuttheheck is entitled to his opinion...

the closing of white oak has made me go back through the range of jeans i own and really look at the diversity of denim from a single factory, my tellasons have been around for nearly a year (huckberry tellason colab) they've been hot washed and dried to get a little shrink out of 'em and my fingertips still wind up blue while wearing 'em! although they're not as "hot" as other pairs i own they're pretty damn fine and slowly they'll develop their own character

if anything this has truly forced a certain kind of reconsideration with a different set of eyes, in the end the true shame is that it's gone. i know ryan (wh ranch) has mentioned he's secured more denim from white oak and it's made me consider purchasing another pair simply so a year or so from now i'll be surprised with another piece of history

what i'm saying, in a rather rambling way, is that it's possible the folks with "lesser opinions" of cone's white mill selvedge simply haven't seen this diversity first hand and consequently, due to that limited view have created their opinions... possible right?

I can't argue with that! However, I have experienced faded Cone denim first hand...

Either way, I'm not trying to convince anyone of my opinion. I think the problem is that some people think there is a right and wrong answer to this when there is not. It's all just opinion. People say far worse about Oni and everyone is only too ready to agree.

Of course I'm not surprised by this response, but I was hoping that more would be able to view my opinion as my own well-informed opinion and not an attempt to piss in the coffin. 

I also think some are getting too wrapped up on the fact that I don't love the denim. The whole reason I even made that comment was because of the possibility of new US brands weaving denim such as Huston. I believe that that is quite relevant here. There is still chance for denim to be made in the US which is very exciting. It's not often that we hear about new denim mills and based on the shirt fabrics I've seen from Huston, I believe they have a chance to weave some denim that I would really love (and possibly even prefer to Cone.) 

1 hour ago, bartlebyyphonics said:

amen!

to those who want to **** in the coffin, have some respect and understanding of the long term consequences of this game changer...

dude. with respect. some respect. pls.

@erk thanx for sharing

The loss of jobs is very unfortunate. Am I not allowed to give an opinion? I know for a fact that there are a lot of others who agree with me. 

I thought this was a thread to discuss the closure. If this is a mourning and condolences only thread, please let me know. 

The fact that skilled workers have lost their jobs is very sad and unfortunate. I really hope they have some chance to apply their skills somewhere else, but unfortunately I don't think that will happen.

As far as the denim itself goes, I have never liked the way Cone denim fades. It's not my preference and I know that others have said this here and on other forums. For most brands (and especially the ones we really like here) this will have a fairly minor effect, if we're honest. Roy is probably going to be affected the most, but I'd be very surprised if he couldn't get denim from Japan as well.

My point is that the title of the thread does not imply that we should only be giving condolences. Why is that not OK? Why jump on me just because I'm the only one with the nerve to say what many are thinking?

In my opinion, this gives greater opportunity to any new small operation like Huston or True Loom that want to make some denim in the US. I would be happy to support them. I already own some Huston fabric shirts and they are incredible. There is something good that can come from this.

Also, I do own some jeans and duck pants made from Cone fabric. It's not as though it's poor quality. It's just not my favorite and this is a conclusion I have reached after several years.

1 hour ago, Huston Textile said:

 

 

We are going to be running our first narrow run selvage denim shortly. We have the threads loaded on the beam and doing some adjustments to our new to us narrow loom before we dress it. We hope to get the weaving finished before December. 
We also anticipate with acquiring more working and running looms that we will be able to lower our costs. 
It's been a busy year and the closing of Cone Mills is one that we had heard rumors of for some time. We hope that while this is a loss for many larger consumers it will be a large step for smaller manufacturers such as our selves.  

This is exciting news! Based on how amazing your shirt fabrics have been, I'm excited to see some denim from you! Not to rub salt in the wound, but Cone denim was never very... appealing. 

16 minutes ago, Claytonimus said:

Oh man!

Maybe they will change their minds.

9 minutes ago, Claytonimus said:

Upvote this post if you would buy the fuck out of one of these if they brought it back. So bummed I missed out on this when it came out. Literally like top 3 grails for me.

Glory Park indigo-dyed linen short sleeve:

I even asked the Flat Head guys if they were bringing this back because like you, it's a grail shirt for me. Unfortunately, no dice  

that jacket does fit perfectly.

31 minutes ago, beautiful_FrEaK said:

For those of you not following Denimbro, here is a link to Double's pair of CSF

https://denimbro.com/conners-sewing-factory_topic3064_post104463.html#104463

Best faded pair of CSF. 

Some pre and post wash photos of my CSF 1937 jeans.

2 hours ago, mlwdp said:

Just follow one Japanese biker (preferably a Harley/Indian/Triumph rider)on Instagram and it leads you down a wormhole of clothing styles and ideas.  They actually put their clothing to "work".  That's all I follow anyway.  

I post that same b.s. with engineer boots instead if that interests you

3 hours ago, mlyngard said:

Politely disagree. Both my Sams held up amazingly well even after 6+ years of regular wear in the cooler months. The only flaw was my own neglect of maintenance. I must have sewn repairs on one pair at least seven times. Even good denim requires occasion proactive damage-control before loose stitching, holes in crotch or on pocket openings start to deteriorate beyond repair. Regular inspection before and after a wash is a good time to catch it.

As for all-cotton, you'll find that almost all good selvage denim uses all-cotton stitching. Denim, like wool or leather has it's inherent character defects, regardless of denim weight. if you know what these are and how to treat them, you're golden. My only advice is to always have a sewing kit handy with gold and indigo thread, and be prepared to use it at first sign of loss of integrity.

I have no experience with Samurai at all. I'm just saying what others have told me. 

1 hour ago, nycsurfer530 said:

Love that fit!

Thanks! That Flat Head shirt is one of my two favorite shirts in the world.

I know this denim is light, but I can already tell the lap fades are going to be epic

My CSF 1937 are too light to get any crazy fades, but I don't know of any faded examples of this fabric so this will be a fun journey anyway.