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On 2/27/2024 at 7:02 AM, CharlieMike said:

Would anyone know the difference (if there is a difference) between: the last BIgE (period 1970-1971), without "V" stitch, with the upper belt in orange chain stitch, coin pocket without selvedge and the first model called "type 66" (period around 1971-1978?

changes in dyeing technique leads to different fabric qualities

some of the early stages of the latter period have printed pocket bags, middle and later stages include a printed tag with numbers usually sewn into the outseam of the jeans

model and size printed differently on patch, differs among factories

maybe a change in thread composition too?

anyone here have a pair of the 60s denim?

On 2/12/2023 at 6:24 PM, shredwin_206 said:

Freewheelers 1927/1951 tux 

These look great. don't look too beat up, how long have you been wearing them and how do you wash and how often? apologize for the nerd question but always curious about black warp/ white weft denim as it can age really quickly

On 1/8/2023 at 9:59 AM, Flash said:

Got some Georgetown Terminators , always wanted a pair .... dont think these were all that popular in the UK because I got them on sale in HIP for £60 , usually retros sell out pretty fast and end up being sold by resellers 

Stained the midsole as I usually do ( need to wipe off the excess in a day or 2 ) and reshaped the toe to be more true to the original , the little creases on the toe should come out with some wear 

These look great.

How do you stain the midsole?

And how do you reshape the toe? I'd be interested to see a before and after image of the toe, or some other relevant material...

On 11/19/2022 at 6:51 PM, chicote said:

Anyway, I will still wear this jacket as is, but I’d really like to figure out some way to polish the sandpaper scuffs out of the leather. They’re not deep, but they’re really obvious in person and i don’t want to give the impression that I might have done this “fading” myself, lol. I’d rather polish or dye the whole jacket black and start all over than have the wear that’s currently on it. If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions on what to do, I’d really appreciate hearing. 

You may be able to figure out a DIY route but if it doesn't work or you'd rather hand it to someone else check out the link below if you're in the US and willing to pay a bit. i think leather jackets last long enough to warrant paying for specialist care. I had discoloring issues with an ebay leather jacket and they took care of it for me. haven't had alterations done with them but i have heard good things about that as well. this is a reputable mail-in leather specialist. curious if you figure out a DIY route, i have heard of some using shoe polish before. 

https://www.greatleather.com/restore.php#sservices

got the chance to handle a pair of shins 66s today. had never been worn, just hot washed and line dried.

fabric was thicker than i expected!

and felt somewhat grainy (not sure if that's the correct way to describe it)- more textured and rougher than other jeans i've handled (including resolute).

curious if that checks out with other's 66 denim experiences, can anyone chime in on this?

would love to hear about others general feelings towards the 66 fabrics.

you can buy newer production 66 501s made with kaihara denim from japanese sites. intriguing! seem these haven't been available for purchase in the west for years. 

anyone have firsthand experience with them? apologies if i missed some discussion of this, i looked and didn't find it.

rakuten listings all seem to have the same copy- must be supplied by LVC (japan?)- size up 2 in the waist, inseam measures at 86cm raw but then shrinks 5 or 6cm.

don't really trust levi's advice at this point... would be great to get measurements from someone with a newer pair... anyone?

related- anyone know if there were L36 pairs in smaller waist sizes while the 66s were miUSA with cone denim (W29, W30, W31)? Never see L36s, just L34s & L32s... and just to confirm, those were typically true to  waist size after washing?

1 hour ago, AlientoyWorkmachine said:

@xav22 You're kind of correct. But I understand what Warehouse is doing - I would just say I don't appreciate it like many other vintage heads would - and I mean that in the sense that I am not interested in why the shirts are period accurate etc. Sort of like how I know I know I don't appreciate the difference in details between one model year and another of Levi's - at least compared to many here. I actually have basically zero interest in actual Levi's and never really have. I appreciate the WH jeans I do have because the cut is great, the denim is nice, and the design is appealing, I know they are serious about their craft - and only after that do I appreciate that they're closer to Levi's I may have actually been interested in were they readily available in my time.

I come to this from another angle I know. What got me into denim in the first place years ago had nothing to do with repro or vintage - it was an attempt to patronize small clothing makers who made things in more transparent workplace conditions that would also justify higher prices by being worn a ton and lasting a long time - and also made stuff that was just a better version of my admittedly pretty tame and routine wardrobe. The interest has since expanded a bit. But yes - I know that vintage stuff from 70 years ago has a different scarcity than old school gear from 20 years ago - but again, my reference point is one where that difference isn't particularly meaningful to me or appealing. They've reproduced gear from an actual school I attended and left many a thrashed gym t shirt behind - and where maybe that specific shirt is hard to find but an old shirt that represents the same thing and looks similar enough is a dime a dozen and to be honest I just thought it was sort of bizarre and funny. One man's trash, as they say. And that's how it struck me. Which I know will find strong disagreement, but that's fine in a hobby forum as far as I see it.   

Sort of why I said to each their own, and I'm aware I'm not the intended audience.  

No strong disagreement mate, it doesn't bother me that you don't find the differences between contemporary and vintage clothing meaningful... most people don't. Your comments and perspective make sense considering you have zero interest in vintage clothing.

9 hours ago, AlientoyWorkmachine said:

Maybe an unpopular opinion here but I really am not into all the repro school tees. Maybe it's that I could go to a thrift shop and get the real thing - sometimes of the exact same school/mascot no joke - for way less money. This stuff is way easier to come by than some vintage Levi's. Love their denim - and more importantly their denim fills a space in part because the thing it reproduces so well is also so scarce - the rest just sorta dilutes the brand IMO. 

8 hours ago, AlientoyWorkmachine said:

I didn't mean my town, I meant the US generally - and granted that's not the intended market for these things, but I still honestly get a little perplexed by the draw to the aesthetics of these things, but to each their own there.

I don't think you understand what warehouse is reproducing. Do you follow the vintage market at all?  That is definitely not the case in the US generally and I doubt your local thrift store has a single graphic tee from the 50s or 60s in it right now.

Tees are a huge part of what specialty american vintage dealers sell domestically, not just to japan. Original graphic tees from the 40s 50s 60s are in high demand and often sell for 5x what warehouse charges for repro tees.

There's no text on the other side of the care tag.

Hi all, wondering if I could get some help dating a recent pickup, a deadstock 70505 (e).

Only been able to narrow it down to some point after 1972 and before 1984.

Anyone know when this particular care tag was swapped in for 70505s? It doesn't match the all caps care tag you see on the latest big E 70505s and what I would assume are the earliest lowercase e 70505s. I wonder what the transition years were between the two. It matches the ~1973 to ~1984 501 care tags, but I'm hesitant to draw much from that- I've got a 70505 (E) with a three digit button code (its in storage, I think it reads 524), because of that I am cautious about placing similar timelines between jackets and trousers. There's no text on the other side of the care tag. The 479 on the yellow cutter's tag is my best bet, for April 1979, but wondering if anyone has any knowledge here.

This jacket took a trip to the laundromat today and is now hanging out on my fire escape!

Images: 

yep, checks out. thanks

they look a lot better w/o the shitty studs

lurker here

requesting some ID's

wasn't able to snap a picture of the side of these,

though i could make out some sort of orange branding on the midsole, closer to the heel.

didn't look like keen, i could be wrong.

no other details on these