The older p15 didn't have this waist band/belt. I have never experienced this one posted here so I can't tell you much about it. But I remember the old one was a nuisance. Almost have no use.
Oh damn. You saved me $$$. I rather wait for this one. I had the old P15 and it was my fave pants that to this date I think about it. It look like they updating the old belt system which is better.
Ok thanks. I'll prob give medium a try. I just don't want heavy stacking. I like the pants cuz its plain and not too tight. Either this or like a P31 would be nice. Or a new updated P15
I like the boring stuff without huge pockets on the legs. I would also like the fit to not stack and if anything slight hanging. I'm about 5'10 and looking at a sz M atm.