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I've been having an absolute blast at the movies lately. Saw the opening of Snowpiercer last night in Seattle for SIFF and Bong Joon-Ho was there, as I believe this was the first American showing outside a test audience he referred to that watched a different cut of the film in New Jersey. The version we were shown was the director's cut, so I'm curious what changes will be made for the general release. He did a Q+A, part in English and part with a translator, which was excellent. All the performances are spot on, the special effects were killer, and I can highly recommend it. 

Thank you to both Gatefold and CHINESEGOLD for their hospitality and conversation. The three of us had dinner at Gyoza King, which included Takoyaki, BBQ squid, tuna belly, beef tongue, and (of course) pork as well as chicken gyoza. I loved Vancouver, and definitely plan on doing another trip up in the upcoming months/year. Would definitely stay longer than a day and avoid the communication mishaps of this time!

Okay everybody. Get ready to play I-Spy at 9PM at Gyoza King. Text WAYWT: Acr, veilance, acr, outlier, outlier, outlier, Common projects. I'm out of the library and off to the streets of Vancouver in less than 5 minutes, so I hope to anyone who can make it at Gyoza King(1508 Robson St Vancouver, BC V6G 1C2).

Posted up on the first floor of the Vancouver public library whilst trying to figure out where and when we are meeting up. Anybody out there? Sending out PMs as well to try and confirm availability/meetup time.

So congratulations to everyone planning on attending an international sufu meetup today. This international nature is something I could have thought through better, as I am realizing my cell phone is not set up for international travel (not a world traveler, yet) so I will be posting in here/checking up before I hit the border but after that communication will be limited before I link up with on of you guys in the city. After that, we should be able to pull the pieces together. Current plan as far as I am concerned is get off the train and head for Haven. Get some canadian currency, get a cup of coffee, walk the city, and then meetup for dinner at gyozaking unless I hear otherwise. As soon as I link up with anyone this should all be moot but until then the itinerary I laid out is my plan. Hope to aee you guys!

I'm all set for the 15th (arriving in Vancouver at noon), and our current roster of attendees is e0d9n0b5, Gatefold, CHINESEGOLD, Kubrick, and myself. 

When and where should we have the initial meetup point? For the Seattle meetup we met up for coffee next door to Totokaelo, which worked out fine. Gives everyone a chance for meeting and greeting out of the way of weather (weather looked to be okay for the 15th in Vancouver, but you locals will probably know better than I how reliable your forecasts are. 

Had little interest in seeing this until a review swayed my mind, and damn i had a blast. This movie had some genuinely funny moments and excellent action sequences as well.

Didn't see a response from thread or PM regarding the 8th, so I'm going to push back to the 15th as the members who have responded said they are easy concerning availability and I'm still attempting to bring along fellow Seattle dwellers to visit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRzReIeALU

Lumbar packs?

Responses from the slew of PMs indicates that a lot of members are busy this summer, but will try to make it out if they can. However, the members with confirmed availability are CHINESEGOLD, Kubrick, Gatefold, and myself. I will check in with the Seattle sufu members to see if anyone else is interested in making the trip up and will report back, but otherwise I would like to start planning the meetup for the sunday the weekend after this one, June 8th.

So, looking back through the thread at recent posters, biggest sufu meetup would be assembling Ordo, Timber, e0d9n0b5, King Tut, Gatefold, shieldsy, CASSAVA PIECE, Ecotrons, CHINESEGOLD, and myself. As people don't always check the thread, I'm going to try and be proactive and message anyone who hasn't posted in the thread in awhile, ask if they're interested or not, and start trying to see where people's free time lines up. This would probably mean moving the meetup back in favor of a larger meetup, depending on response time and whatnot.

I don't think there is any way to know who lives where or search who lives where except for the information volunteered underneath our respective avatars/profile pages, so if anyone wants to help out with adding more members to the meetup, that'd be swell. If I remember correctly Larsss works near the area? If anyone else comes to mind/you have friends that lurk sufu I see few reasons not to bring them along as well.

Meetup times could vary. I have a retail weekend of Sunday and Monday, but a lot of members probably have the traditional weekend of Saturday and Sunday, meaning if you felt like meeting me it would be limited to either late Saturday night or Sunday.

At the Sunday meetup, which I suspect would draw the largest group, CHINESEGOLD had a ton of great restaurants outlined in the area(see previous page of thread). Majority rule on where people want to go for lunch/dinner as long as the pricing doesn't exclude members who show up for the meetup? I can even include the restaurant question in the PMs.

Now, this is a lot of planning, and we could just set a meetup point and choose a restaurant based on proximity. This is what we ended up doing at the Seattle meetup, but we had a much smaller group. Happy to hear other people's thoughts on this.

The "need" for cheap clothing, I would argue, is more often than not a psychological one that is reinforced by the never-ending cycle of capitalism you reference in your post. The focus on material wealth and its acquisition are well-embedded in American society and human history, and without a change in mindset (also referenced in your post) traditional new clothing will remain an indicator of a person's particular level of wealth.

Fashion, of course, has played around with this idea. Many brands this board celebrates are brands that subvert the expectations for what is "worth" the price. Undercover is a prime example. You are not "paying for the clothes" in the traditional sense of "paying for the clothes" when you buy a well-made cotton dress shirt. You are paying for the inclusion in a community of people who could recognize that you are both able to pay for Undercover and you chose its aesthetic over the competing aesthetics you were offered by your society, other designers, etc. To the uninformed, your financial status is unclear. You could even be mistaken for poor/destitute in the case of the scab jeans, for example.

If the traditional indicators of wealth in clothing are twisted to the point where we cannot identify a person's level of wealth by the clothing that they wear, I think that would certainly help in changing the current mindset concerning clothing. Elimination of the visual distinction we have between "white collar" and "blue collar" workers could be a first step.

Got this from some incredibly random 4 track mini disc I was given at some point in junior high. Heard it again when I was shuffling through songs.

 

it's silly to isolate clothing if you take into account all the other things schools must acquire

do you think all those products are made under acceptable conditions?

i can understand why members of this community would be primarily concerned with how a school's uniforms are manufactured, but for most individuals and institutions, the production of clothing is seen as a symptom of a much larger problem which is much harder to fix

 

with that said, i'm confused by people who care about the origins of their clothing for moral reasons yet hardly ever think about the origins of everything else they consume

In the context of this forum, offshore manufacturing seemed like the most pertinent issue regarding ethical acquisition and consumption, but I agree wholeheartedly that a focus on this issue to the exclusion of others would be silly.

We could start a thread whose concern would be ethical consumption in general (energy, food,  transport, etc.) in order to avoid derailing this thread, but it probably wouldn't belong in supershopper. Maybe superculture?

My workweek ends on Saturday at 5:15 ish, get on the bus at 5:40 (it'll take me at least 45 mins to get to downtown Seattle), and then from there I would bus to Vancouver. 3 hour bus ride runs from 9:30PM-12:30AM, though.

Alternatively, I could take the train up to Vancouver Sunday morning (7:40 AM-11:40AM) grab lunch with anyone who is free, do some city shopping/sightseeing with anyone interested during the afternoon, meet up with people who have dinner open, then go from dinner to late-night activities (I hear rumors of karaoke, etc.).

I'm flexible, so whatever plan allows us to bring the greatest number of sufu members in the Vancouver area together works for me.

We're a week out from my proposed meetup weekend. Is there still interest in a Vancouver sufu meetup for that weekend or would the locals prefer it to be pushed back in favor of a date with a better publicized, scheduled, and confirmed roster of attendees?

Ignorance of the issues that we create through consumption is forgivable to a certain age, in my opinion, because access to information regarding the less glamorous side of living in an unimaginably wealthy society is so rarely mentioned by any mainstream media source.

I happened to participate in a program that emphasized that being ignorant of the ills you cause through consumption in the age of the internet is unacceptable. I struggled to come around to the truth that, as a person, you are responsible for every choice you make, and most of these choices will be about consumption. In the context of biology, philosophy, and capitalism, choosing not to consume is not an option because that is effectively suicide. Life is sustained by consumption of other life, suicide is a crime against yourself (according to Kant), and people need to buy and sell (not just one or the other).

This is something I continue to think about, especially as companies continue to blend the lines concerning where ethical manufacturing occurs (the often discussed "Made In Italy" tag that was once held so high). This is one of the best arguments, for me, to buy from local companies that do everything in-house (see Tanner Goods, etc.), but their customer base's aesthetic preferences remain significantly different from the fashion-forward and ever-changing expanding tastes of the superfuture community members.   

There are excellent aesthetic efforts from former sufu members, such as Silent Whisper, and I'd love to know if anyone has info on their manufacturing facilities/conditions. That there isn't clarity regarding questions like this still speaks volumes about the industry itself and the standards of its consumers.

Haven has an opening party this Friday night that I am sad I cannot attend. RSVP address is on their instagram if anyone is interested in going. Guessing it would be, at the very least, an interesting group of people to mingle with.

Many thanks to Daniel. Shipped me my new DS-KA3 from Germany to the Us without any issues and it ended up fitting me perfectly.

Still looking for limonta attachments for my limonta 3A-6TS if anyone has some they're looking to get rid of. 

Violent Forrest Gump strikes again.

Finally got around to reading one of her books and finding it quite enjoyable. The contributions of cadavers to society at large and their history are both fascinating.

Great energy live. Saw them this past Friday at Neumos.

For the most part, yeah. This season especially suffered from a "serial killer of the week" mentality but its focus on the dialogue of psychological manipulation and the production of dream-like images sets it apart for me. Certainly more visually entertaining and emotionally arresting than say a Criminal Minds or a CSI, for example, despite its similarities. It also continues to push boundaries with what a show can get away with on a network like NBC, and the brutality of this show seems to get ratcheted up each successive season.

Plus, it has a dark sense of humor. Absolutely horrendous puns this season and that couldn't make me happier.