Maynard Friedman

Try this: https://supertalk.superfuture.com/topic/33596-levis-501-a-visual-guide/

UK chainstitch hemming: Son of a Stag - London Rivet & Hide - London & Manchester Clutch Café - London

Thanks @superfuture, looks like we’ve avoided the dreaded Y2K(23) bug 😅 Edit: I think TLS = Transport Layer Security but I’m hazy on the details!

Superfluous selvedge, rogue red tabs - sounds like one of Paul T’s legendary Thai fakes.

^ those items must’ve ridden the storm out Charlie, especially the blanket lined jackets.

Perhaps they’re showing as sold out until they actually become available and then the correct quantities will be shown so that customers can order them.

I think they’re trying to gaslight us with their own ‘truths’!

All about alliteration.

Thanks Paul, according to Wikipedia: ”The town (of Whitburn) was once the site of Levi Strauss & Co., the clothing manufacturer. The plant opened in 1969, employing a work force of over 500 local people. At its height, the plant was producing 4 million pairs of jeans in a year. The plant shut its doors in December 1999.”

So if the SC-1947 is Sugar Cane’s slim-straight cut, then which model is their straight cut? I don’t think the SC-66 has ever been considered a slim-straight cut either. I’m really confused here…

I know this could run and run but most people would consider the SC-47 a classic straight cut. I don’t know anywhere that you’d find it described as slim-straight.

I think slim-straight is as described above (ie straight) but with smaller proportions, e.g. the 13” thigh and 9” hem would be standard for a 32” waist and a slim-straight version would probably have 11.5” thigh and 7.5” hem. Check out Sugar Cane measurements for their 1947 (straight cut) and then the slimmer versions of the 1947 model. There is no way a 13” thigh and 9” hem on a W32 is slim-straight.

My understanding and experience of a straight cut is not one that’s straight down from the thighs with parallel outseam and inseam but a cut that tapers from the thigh to the knee and then runs straight to the hem. Most of the straight cuts I have tend to have a 13” thigh and 9” hem (approx).

There’s also Full Count 0106, which, I think, are an even looser cut than the 0105s (the current versions of which, have a wider hem than the 0105s with arcs and tab).

I know it flies in the face of everything that Duke has (correctly) suggested above but I’ve used Vaseline lip balm on numerous jeans patches for years and seen no obvious detrimental effects on the leather, stitching or denim. I didn’t buy it for this purpose but used it because it was at hand.

As far as I’m aware that’s week 39 of 1987, so late September/early October’87. Levi’s did have a factory in the UK (Scotland) in the 1980s and I think the factory code was 299, which matches that stamped on the back of the top button. So, a legitimate pair of UK-made 501s from 1987 seems right to me.

^ Do you have a size chart for their blue jeans too Duke, I don’t think many on here are interested in the white ones.

^Yes they did, here’s one They also made Leepro jeans with the same label.

@JDelage thanks for your honest and detailed appraisal and apologies if my post seemed a little harsh (it probably did), that’s more to do with my expectation of end result and depth of colour for the price, considering the knowledge, etc that the dyers have. However, you’re right that the t-shirt production creates an unknown variable so they can only work with what they have. I wonder if some fabrics max out after a certain number of dips, so after that it may be pointless in doing more - so many unknowns. Thanks again for taking the chance and sharing and post some updates. I have quite a few indigo-dyed t-shirts I need to photograph and post.

Underwhelming in the sense that it was very expensive and doesn’t look particularly good (in my opinion anyway) and similar results might have been achieved at less expense. The fact that it’s out of their control doesn’t change anything in terms of end result. They may have done the best they could but it still doesn’t mean it looks particularly good. I prefer darker indigo dyes but perhaps some people like the lighter look. If you read the original post (it’s only a few above this) you’ll see that the dye job cost almost ¥40k - for 3 t-shirts! You could buy 3 indigo dyed t-shirts for less than that. EDIT: it’s not a criticism of JDelage - he experimented and shared the results with us so hats off to him for that.

^That looks pretty underwhelming. It seems like you could’ve put them in the washing machine with a £3 dye from the supermarket and achieved a similar result.

Duke’s belts - better than Iron Heart and made in Scotchland for Irn-Bru waists, no idea on price though!

Nothing’s off topic in this thread!

Perhaps Carlsberg should start making jeans?