Dr_Heech

I'm no @Dr_Heech either, but yes the widths varied depending on vintage era and most pre-1975 redline models have some small width discrepancies on each pair. Just turn them inside out. Also, could've been dependent on the factory and the operator putting them together.

That's a big club

It's exactly what happened to me. Discovered a few (unknown to me at the time) Japanese repros via ebay - some Bartack's then some SC47's. And before you could say Roy's, Freewheelers and Conners, l was away and free. I still enjoy the lvc pieces l have left and my two pairs of 55s are a regular part of the grand rotation.

It's not too complex Martin, l think, just a case of discovery, learning and (hopefully) growing. Yes l loved the Valencia st factory made stuff, despite some inaccuracies and sizing issues, and l loved the 554 and the 643M stuff, even though my 554 55's are a different cut from my 555 55's. But it's around 2004 (wrong patch on 1901's) and 2005 (wrong arcs on 201's) that lvc began to grate on me. I think quality wasn't too bad (they were being made at Taylor Toggs first) but the imo unforgivable detail errors and the increasingly wacky sizing (my sz 36 stf on 201's for my 34 waist measured 39 inches!) just put me off. A golden opportunity missed for example, was the 1927 501XX (2007). The sizing was still whack (measured similar to my 201's) but they 'forgot' to add the second line of stitching to the top of the back pockets, but again Hey, we'll still send them out for sale. I know Levis doesn't give a hoot and hasn't done for decades but It just seemed like they were more blatantly in your face not giving a shit and l'd had enough by 2007. That year l think, l bought the raw 1880 tool pocket pair year which once l got the sizing sorted (size 32 measured 36.5 ) l was happy with them.l think also from around 2003, l also started acquiring other lvc pieces (shirts/hoodies/tees) but most of it l sent back as they just seemed cheap and shoddy compared to even some of the crappiest TK Maxx finds. When they had a revamp of the lvc line around 2010 l purchased a pair of s501XX which weren't too bad (although now 150 quid) and then it was when l picked up the 1917 and 1915 models l hit a wall. The patch on the 1915's was only half stitched on and the 1917s had a J-Crew rivet on them (?) I thought eff it, no more lvc. Since then, even though l have still a passing interest in lvc (mostly because of the arcs) - l just can't bring myself to buy a replica that uses poly stitching and (probably) shoddy workmanship. Luckily, Warehouse is the new lvc for me: Proper cuts on interesting, accurate models and of course they got the arcs and the cotton stitching to boot. Hope this helps?

1962 is when Every Garment Guaranteed was removed from the patch. It's only lvc that says it was 1963 when they brought out the 551zxx repros out.

Yes. Thankyou. To you and @Maynard Friedman I know alot of different things happened in 1963, it was more what happened in 1963 that was Levis related.

If they were the pair worn by Phil Collins in the film then I'll pay £500 right off the bat.

Thanks for clarifying Martin, good to know. And it wouldn't matter if it was from cone or not as lvc's 'stitch for stitch and every detail blah blah blah' mantra will mess them up anyways. Take a look at the lack of 'pull' on the bartacked/hidden riveted pocket corner, They instantly look fake/poorly replicated. Anyway, what was really so amazing about 1963?

What is going on here, and more importantly, where do they keep finding this 'deadstock cone' ??? https://www.gearpatrol.com/style/a41758543/levis-vintage-clothing-1963-501/

Did you cut that out of one of the Commons back benches? (plenty of horses arses in there)

@lee porter if l didn't have enough jeans l would take those FW WW2's off you in a heartbeat.

Nice to see you have gone for some bucklebacks at last, they're going to look great. Just need to get @Flash into a pair and 'bingo', my work here is done. Looking forward to your usual evo.

Well l sold the last ones on ebay so yeah, plus you need the global customer base if your in for a chance.

Well if it's any help to you, l have owned three 557xx over the last 30 years (well one of them was a 559xx actually) and all three cost me between 125-150 quid to purchase and all sold back out again for 150 quid at a time. So there's a ballpark figure for you*. The 559xx was a 48, the 557xx were sz 46's and all bought direct from the US. *however l recently enquired about purchasing a one wash 558xx in a 46 (that's the long version) from a Japanese seller and was told $4400 so anything is possible.

There's been more interest recently in late 1920's and early 1930's levis jacket based repros, thinking of Freewheelers and Warehouse in particular (hey l'm really enjoying the fit on my WH 1927 model, the size 46 means l can comfortably wear it over a thicker shirt or a sweat) Anyway, just thought I'd share these pics of one of my favourites from the Levis XX denim jackets book of #58 - a 213 which has a beautifully sewn wonky stitched pocket flap and pleat box-stitching detail.

Interesting information, thanks @Duke Mantee

I think he's asking whether the jacket has been stitched together with polyester thread?

@silencejoe Looks like a Valencia st manufacturered piece judging by the buckle?

Wonder why they chose the dates 1933-1934 in particular? Guess this one must've dodged the NRA tag.

Give me your email address mate and I'll do that for ya. What Levis book?

No Paul, although not sure what he sold them for (?)

Well your both right, he did wear them for a short while and then he sold them.

Here are some nice shots of the late 1880's Levis that sold fo $76,000, once owned by our very own @Sansome1877

Pairs? Thought you only sold the one pair? (My new/your old #24 in the book) - as l sold those 47's back to you, for the same (far too cheap) price iirc Tbh his original prices were steep enough for me, bordering on ridiculous. But l am soo glad to have the 2 pairs l now own and can actually wear comfortably.

@Graytrain good luck finding a second hand pair of CSF .