Dr_Heech

I've just seen that Son of a Stag in London are re-releasing the H.D. Lee archives collection, exclusive to them if l've read it right. No link because l've forgotten how to do it but they had the full set of raw and pre-distressed denims (3 101 cowboy pants, 131 cowboy pants, 3 different lee 91J loco jackets, lee cowboy jacket and lee dungarees in raw denim and in raw ecru! Also the earliest type of 191-J and a 50's lee riders jean. I'm sure somebody with better tech skills than me can post the link up here

Nice fit on the L2 @Broark

Levis had something like 70+ factories worldwide at this point so not enough info to narrow it down unfortunately.

Exactly that. Big E labels were still being put on garments until 1973, when the small e/batwing logo took over. I think that most generic type 3's with big E labels made between 1969 and 1974 have either 521, 52 or sometimes pock-marked/blank button backs as there were only 3 factories making that particular denim jacket at the time.

Thanks. Only had maybe 40 or 50 wears since the tour end and only one quick wash.

Two or three brown spots of something.

Only used in original vintage type 3 jackets as far as l'm aware (especially with the first type care tag sewn in underneath). Lvc only repro'd the c.1967 type 3 (70505) and the earlier 1962 557xx.

I've had these Bootleggers 601xx since 2016 (They were gifted to me by Duke at the end of the tour over on DB) I don't wear these that much as they are soo perfect as they are, l just want to occasionally wear them and enjoy them. When l do wear them, there is always someone who asks "are those vintage levis?" to which l normally reply "what do you think?" Great hardwear and denim, various different gauges of cotton thread and rainbow stitched back pocket arcs. The coin pocket rivets were removed.

@Flash Those bright white legs are made more obvious by those highwater beige/pink trousers you're both wearing. Yours have a hairy weave too! Enjoy the event mate

@crownzip lovely old Lee 191-LB. That Talon chain is precious. Can we get a fit pic please mate?

@MJF9 this is the the particular blouse l was referring to - shows the underarm wear better. Number 56 in the book. I dont even like t-shirt or shirt material getting bunched up like that under me armpits, let alone 9 or 10oz denim

I'm very interested in the early development of the 506xx and love the cut and details of this model but for me the movement issue means l couldn't work in one. I had the 1900 lvc pullover denim and the duck version and sold them for the same reasons. There's just too much excess material under the arms when wearing imo. There's a lovely photo of a well worn 1915 213 (obvs same cut as 506xx) in the Vintage Levis book and the underarm wrinkles are evidence of this. I'm not knocking that older style of jacket, as l said before - l love the history/development - it's just that the 1927 jacket was the first to have the curved underarm seam, but still retains earlier hardware and details.

Congratulations @julian-wolf !

Continuing on from the conversation in the Sugarcane thread, on the topic of proper REALLY rare unseen Nos Levis pieces, l bagged these shots from a collector/wearer on lg. 1927 First pocket flapped 506xx in a size 36 - it says 'Size 36' rather than 'W/L 36' as that didn't happen until c.1937. Tried to enlarge the magazine shots to clarify (King of vintage Vol 4). Also just about make out the copper riveted on the patch. (Obviously if you click on the image it comes up clearer)

I agree Martin but it was worth the wait to see those gorgeous flannel pocket-lined 43s and in a great size too. Sometimes though certain collectors are reluctant to let those really rare garments out of the bag, so to speak. So it can take some time to find these pieces, within collections, and then you have to get them to agree to photographing them. This could be for many reasons (??) but it is becoming more common now to see really rare deadstock/unworn Levis jeans and jackets, than say, 5 years ago. Weird. Thought l was well and truly over the WW2 jeans reissues but these SC 43's have caught my interest. Need to see more details first though.

Apart from Lee's black 'Frisco Jeans'. They were introduced around 1946 iirc.

Today is the 150th anniversary of the first ever patented riveted pants, cementing the partnership between Jacob Davis and Levi Strauss and giving us an iconic item of clothing in the making. And giving some of us here something to chat about and obsess over. Thanks lads.

@Maynard Friedman hey whats the matter you, why you no respect? You sure that's not Woody Harrlsen?

Nothing really, just putin it out there

Typical Putin, still stuck in the 80's with his bleach wash bollox. Coulda paired em with something better than black Oxfords.

@scooby Never seen a pair of vintage Levis 501's from the 1901-1921 with added beltloops, but l'm sure there are plenty of peeps who customised them by adding belt loops themselves.

@bartlebyyphonics this came up on my feed the other day and l thought of you. Looks like the last hurrah for LVC with these 1870's duck items. On the surface they don't look too bad and the label looks to be a newer (improved/accurate?) version. I guess they're made in Japan?

Noooooo......

@MJF9 Fyi, myself and Maynard (or Mayns, as he likes to be called) have shared a few beers in the non-virtual world of London some 10 years ago, l believe. @Maynard Friedman help me out mate, memory is shoddy at best Honestly, we are mates on Facebook, lnstagram, denimbro and here... honestly

To recap.. So the first pocket-flapped 506xx was introduced in c.1927, the details included small (501xx fly sized) unbranded buttons. From c.1928 until c.1935 the jacket used branded small buttons, but then in early 1936 Levis changed that and started to use the larger, waist-band sized buttons. Although the red tab was added around late 1936 on jeans pockets, it wasn't until mid 1937 that the tab was attached to jacket pockets. According to the book. As for Lvc, your guess is as good as mine. To date they have only made the 506 repro from c.1936, which shouldn't really have a tab yet, but obviously does. The only other 506xx repro was the wartime version, which isn't relevant here. Could be a sample version? These often dont have all the details that the shop-ready garments have (?)