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  1. I think you're missing the part that this is a portable machine. of course consoles are better for the actual game play, but its like wondering why people buy laptops when they can buy a more powerful desktop machine for cheaper, maybe they need or want to take it somewhere else than their desk (or in this case, living room).

    you are looking at this from your own perspective, which is ok, but its not the only one. I personally am not into portable consoles either, but quite a big amount of people seem to be and some are willing to pay what these devices cost. this is a completely pointless argument imo, it entirely depends on what each individual wants, needs and is willing to pay for.

    to be fair, desktop/laptop is to console/handheld analogy doesnt really make sense. in the former you are still playing games on essentially the same machine and having the same game experience, except that one has portability. laptop is also just a PC, after all. but as for the latter, however, the difference is a bit more drastic. i wont go through it again, but im sure you know what i mean.

    and as for your second comment, well, it should be obvious that in any sort of debate people present and argue for their different opinions. but if we were to just say oh your opinion is cool too just as mine is, then nothing would be done. admittedly, there can be better, more socially relevant things to debate about; but if people cant debate about video games in a video game thread, then i dont know where. the guy asked for my opinion and i gave him one. just like yourself, i dont really care for handhelds either, but i will answer when asked.

    and lastly, im picking up Dead Space 2 and Black Ops today. anyone up for zombie mode let me know!

  2. i would answer that question with another question: why would you want to play a game that looks AND plays like it came out eight years ago when you could be playing a game that's truly current-gen (see the touchpad on the rear of PSP2/NGP), on the go?[/Quote]

    well let me begin by saying that i dont own a PSP or a DS; and i certainly dont plan on getting their respective future models. with that said, im not sure if you are understanding my question, i.e., my central point. your answer (as presented above in the form of a question) is irrelevant to the question i posed beforehand. your "answer" would only make sense if the following was true: current-gen graphics = good game. that's just ridiculous. i mean, to be sure, that's a convenient metric, but a really lazy one for that same reason.

    you have to realize that there are qualitative and quantitative distinctions. PSP is a quantitatively better machine than a Nintendo DS, no questions there. but when i said that NDS was better for its alternate gaming experience, i was referring to its qualitative difference. it's purely a casual gaming device, nothing more. what a handheld should be. but the PSP on other hand is, as you put it, a device for console gaming on the go, i.e., not exactly a handheld (casual) gaming machine. maybe i phrased it poorly before, so let me reiterate my point:

    i just dont understand why the hell anyone would pay $300+ for the exact same game you can play on a console, that is, on a much larger screen and better sound. it's like you prefer fucking a fleshlight over the real deal. am i missing something here? now this analogy doesn't hold for NDS because its games are qualitatively different than what i play on my console or PC; whereas the games on PSP are just quantitatively smaller, mini-sized versions of the exact same console titles. honestly, i dont know how much clearer i can be.

    Nintendo themselves are showing that they perceive the PSP to be a threat by fully backing games you would normally play on consoles (which is Sony's territory) for the 3DS like Street Fighter 4 3D, MGS Snake Eater, Resident Evil Revelations, among other big 3rd party titles. this proves that there IS a lucrative market for these games on handhelds.

    it doesnt prove anything. those are entirely different games, offering entirely different gaming experiences than their console counterparts. in other words, they are not just ports or handheld versions of console games. those are 3D games, entirely unique in their own right.

    but since you brought it up, let us look at some of the launch titles for the PSP 2:

    Killzone

    Uncharted

    Call of Duty

    Resistance

    Little Big Planet

    ALL GAMES you can/should play on a console for a much better experience. these are all just quantitatively mini-sized versions of the exact same console games. there is no qualitative distinction here at all. is it 3D? no. is it somehow different from the console games, other than the fact that you play on a much smaller device? no. if one can argue for any qualitative distinction here, it would only be inferiority. i mean, if you got the dough then by all means go ahead; but i will be spending my time and money on a much more worthwhile endeavor (no, not Nintendo 3DS either - fuck handhelds).

  3. Blue 9 doesn't taste like garbage by any means still. My Roomie just ordered that and the other got lucky burger (anyone?) earlier today. Burger Thursday's!

    And I've had a few friends say that about me having a blog but I feel like now that every blowhard and his grammas got a blog nowadays who really cares what the fuck a shmuck like me (and all them) has to say? Essentially... I prolly wouldn't even find the time to read my blog. (but I don't find the time for anyone elses for that matter so maybe I'm reverse biased?)

    i would read it dawg. im so uninformed when it comes to nyc street food joints. i mean any jackass can look at some restaurant guide and hit up a fancy, up-scale joint with X number of stars, rave reviews, etc. but i think street food knowledge, if you can call it that, is something much more intimate and experiential i guess? and besides, i love food porn.

  4. what you said about Nintendo is absolutely true. Nintendo does get a lot of support from developers, but i wonder if that is the case precisely because the gaming device itself appeals to the developers themselves, not just because they have some bizarre fetish for Nintendo. it just seems to me that handheld gaming by its nature is such that it demands a very casual gaming experience, as seen in Nintendos and iPhones. i mean, the whole point of "on the go" gaming is that you can engage with a game at a minimal level while still being entertained at the same time. in other words, the point is to provide a detached, casual experience. but once the device tries to emulate console-type gaming, as the PSP is doing, then it negates its own handheld-ness, as it were. and as a result, the user is always forced to confront the following question: why the hell am i playing a console game on a fucking 4 inch screen?

    Apple's success with games from the app store means that the handheld gaming market (and portable media for that matter) is growing larger and getting more varied/segmented, which is why Sony is beefing up the PSP with this device.

    you are certainly right. the handheld gaming market is for sure expanding. but you have to consider the possibility that maybe Apple's app store games are successful precisely because they are casual games. look through any of the top games in the app store, and you will immediately recognize that the most salient feature of these games is that they are very casual and one-dimensional, certainly not a console-type experience.

    They know it can't win over the casual gamers, but no one else is putting out a gaming device with current-gen console graphics and a load of other features (like being able to use Skype).

    again, this is precisely my point. why would you want to play a current-gen console game on a handheld? it defeats the point of handheld gaming. the PSP is not providing an alternate gaming experience; rather, it offers the user a much smaller, less refined handheld version of his console games. it just seems to me that we have a different idea of what handheld gaming should be. who knows maybe PSP2 will be a massive success. i doubt it, but we shall see!

  5. hahaha. not much knowledge here bro - just a casual gamer. with that said, i will be adding you on PSN later tonight. i havent copped Dead Space 2 yet, but it seems like the reviews are very favorable. although im disappointed that the online multiplayer is a team-based death match rather than a coop campaign.

    ever since some fuckers deleted all my stats and unlocks on MW2, ive been thinking about getting Black ops instead of DS2. im really into coop and the zombie mode appeals to me. i will probably get both though.

  6. with the addition of a right thumbstick and 3G connection on premium models, you can now play the next Call of Duty multiplayer on the go. think about it. Apple pretty much proved that the masses would play games on a handheld given the success of the app store and smaller devs being successful with inexpensive indie games on the iPhone. regardless of the higher price point, it makes sense on Sony's part to cash in the western FPS craze with this move in addition to defending their grip on the handheld market in Japan. whether they can make this work is another story though

    well, your comment about Apple doesn't really hold much water. first, people don't buy iPhones specifically to play handheld games. it is first a phone before anything. people buy games, movies and music solely as additions to the gadget's primary functionality as a phone. i highly doubt anyone buys an iPhone for the gaming experience it offers. in other words, the iPhone's success with its apps is only marginally relevant, if that, in gauging PSP2's prospects.

    second, it is precisely because Sony decides to add things like thumbsticks and 3G connection that PSP fails in comparison to Nintendo handhelds. those changes improve the machine from a technical standpoint, but do they really change (improve) the user's gaming experience? that is to say, do they offer something different that the user would not find in a console or a PC? why the hell would i want to play CoD/Uncharted on a fucking handheld when i could play it on a 52 inch hdtv with surround sound? the thing with PSP is that it constantly tries to emulate consoles. thats why it's stuck with ports most of the time. what it should be doing is appealing to the casual user with a gaming experience that is unique while not taking itself so seriously.

    think about it. okay, so PSP2 is this new multimedia gadget that you can use to watch movies, play games and listen to music. i can already listen to music and watch movies on my iPhone (or any other smartphone). so why the hell would i pay $300+ to play a fucking port version of a game that i can play on a console?

    on the other hand, 3-D gaming on the go, as offered by the Nintendo 3DS, is something that i cannot experience with my console or PC. i personally think it's because Nintendo creates an innovative handheld gaming experience that it has dominated PSP in the US.

    but whatever. honestly, i dont really care much for handhelds in general. thanks for the videos though.

  7. Nothing more loser-ish than ~50% of Japan?

    well, dont take it personally.

    but i cant say that is not the impression i get when i see grown ass dudes playing handheld games. it just looks silly. for the japanese, i would imagine that their general attitude towards gaming is a bit different than that of the US, given that sony/nintendo are their national products and that they (the japanese) just have a different world view than westerners like myself. so i guess i should have added that my opinion is culturally specific, not some generalization concerning all cultures.

  8. why is sony pushing handhelds so hard? PSP sucked balls. it pretty much bombed in comparison to what Nintendo put out.

    i think Nintendo handhelds are different because it's really a gaming device, as opposed to PSP which tries to be some hip information age gaming machine kind of thing; and it seems they are going for that again this time.

    when are they going to learn that "cool gaming gadget for the mature gamer" shtick is never going to catch on for their target audience? personally, there is nothing more loser-ish than some grown ass dude playing handheld games in public.

  9. sounds like its pretty fucked? I haven't dared to try after a friend mentioned that all games he got into were hacked.

    I can't believe they let that shit happen. aren't some people sitll playing the older COD's online without any problems..?

    yeah it's pretty fucked. i dont know about it exactly, but apparently it's not so much the game itself that is hacked but PS3 system itself. so while some games depend on the system whatever for online, others are independent and thus safe from hacking. im sure someone who is technologically better informed than i am can explain it in greater detail, but thats what i read from most sites.

    gives me an excuse to sell MW2. i dont know how much it will get me at gamestop though. but shit i did have a lot of time invested in that shit, unlocking all the stuff... :(

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