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^Oooooo, William Rast, that's quality shit (10).
In before the lock.
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A very good friend's wife just announced that she no longer believes in monogamy and has taken to "free love" with gusto -- much to his dismay. So, there are quality dames out there into it. If you are serious, I'd suggest being very upfront about it. Once you tap into the network it should be pretty easy going if you have some game.
However, the majority of cultures seem to endorse at least a level of monogamy. From an evolutionary standpoint it seems that humans favor a form of serial monogamy -- maybe not mating for life, but one at a time concept. You might find yourself fighting some strong biology. Even if the girl seems to be down with it, she might flip on you after a bit. Something has driven humans to monogamy for millions of years, and I don't think it's religion or society or anything like that. I think society and religion adopted monogamy to reflect our deeper biological drives. Anyway, best of luck. Go out there and live every 14 year old's wet dream.
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Dude. You gotta post pics of your mom's fades. Here AND in the raw-for-women thread! Give them ladies some inspiration!Per dkatz request.
My mom's sailor dungarees from late '60s early '70s. She would rock a Mister Freedom thing with blue canvas Keds and a striped T. Oh, also a red bandanna on the head. She was a steezy dame back in the day.
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My mom was a denimhead from way back. Taking those photos reminded me of one story: I was in the 4th grade, I think, and my mom took me to Sears in the city to buy Levis. She left me and my brother in the pickup while she went inside to buy the pants. She came back with orange tabs and I asked her to go back and get red tabs (a little embarrassed I was such a snob). Anyway, she took us home and fired up the washer to shrink the jeans. She starts mixing up some vinegar salt soak to "keep the jeans dark." At this point my older sister and my dad start giving her hell, 'cuz, "you want the jeans to fade." (this very well could have been selvage as it would have been summer of '84).
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Dude. You gotta post pics of your mom's fades. Here AND in the raw-for-women thread! Give them ladies some inspiration!
sorry for the delay:
Standard sailor dungarees, one-piece legs.
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While looking for info on leg twist, I came across this site: http://www.textilehistory.org/
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Here is a link about a patent that combats leg twist. Some good geeky stuff. Be sure to read the Description tab for explanations of why leg twist occurs.
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One possible explanation for demonito's jeans that don't have twist would be that the weave is really dense and the warp yarns tension was proportionally equal to the weft yarn's tension, upon other possible factors.
Not completely sure of this but it seems correct in my head.
Thanks, I think your explanation is the correct one. I had bad intel. Now, however, I have about 30 questions regarding weaving.
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^ Leg twist is achieved almost entirely by chance. Leg twist occurs when the leg of an unsanforized (or sanforized is some cases) denim is stitched up such that the twill on the back is "out of alignment" with the twill on the front. When shrinkage occurs the fabric reduces such that the seam moves around the leg and voila twists. This was historically viewed as an undesirable feature, so manufactures took measures to ensure that twills were properly aligned. SO, not sure about your jeans, but I would assume that by design or luck of the draw your jeans are properly (or improperly as the case may be) aligned to prevent twisting. I think Mizanation's thread about the gentleman in Okinawa making jeans delves into this further. I'd be interested if any manufactures are engineering specifically for leg twist.
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^Shit, you are right. The BRxSE was around $100.
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^Both Self Edge locations carry BR sweats. I think they run about $100, plus free shipping.
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I absolutely feel ya on that, man. That is why I decided to go with the TOJ. Modern silhouette, classic styling. I got mine made bespoke and so I was able to get the length just how I wanted.
I think you mean made-to-measure, not bespoke. Bespoke usually denotes that the actual patterns was made specifically to your body (and typically the dude making the pattern is also sewing up the clothes). So, unless the TOJ guys were hosting you in Korea, I think you just had an inch added to a generic pattern.
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Besides BiG, SE, and History Preservation is there anywhere in the USA to get them?
When did BiG move out of the USA? Seriously, WTF? That was the best denim shop in NYC. Oh, nevermind.
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Back in the day my old man was a pretty good dresser. He was whatever the American equivalent of a mod was in the '60s. There is a pretty good photo of him in some really tight Levis -- they looked tapered so I assume they weren't 501 or 505. He worked summers on a dairy so there are also some great photos of him in work wear, too. He was straight preppy in the '80s -- sack suits, Brooks Brothers. But there was a few Pendeltons around the house and he had an orange tab 517 that I snatched a few years back with pretty good fades (dated '84). Anyway, he's given up on clothes -- logo polos and pleated khakis are the order of the day. He actually gets more excited about my office clothes than my denim (I rock a pretty trad look to work). My mom has a pretty good collection of vintage denim, though (she bought it all new and raw). She got some grail-status fadez back in the day.
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Gas, grass or ass.
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Hey, new photos in the Scarlett Johansson and LiLo thread, jus' sayin'.
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I think most of this conversation, with regard to the conversation here and not at SF, is a lot like what happens in underground-music cultures where prestige is derived from being one of the first to adopt and authenticity has a premium -- for example in Hip-Hop-based subcultures, coming from an urban setting is superior to coming from the suburbs. So, here on SUFU, you have some members that were the first to adopt and among these first-to-adopt, some have experience in "blue collar" trades -- however, with a few exceptions, it seems that very few have adopted a true "blue collar" lifestyle, it seems to be mostly something they did in college. So, these people get a lot of identity from being a denimhead with some blue-collar experiences. Now that "americana" is all the rage -- you can buy selvage at the mall -- the original adopters, in some cases, feel the need to separate themselves from the crowd. Thus, they start to criticize authenticity -- you're a hypebeast, you're blowing the spot, you're not hardcore, you've never worked a day in your life, etc. etc. (personal favorite was a guy trying to justify the need for smokejumper boots because of the strains of life in an urban jungle).
My take: It's a fucking post-modern world. When you're listening to rockabilly or the blues or Hank Williams on an iPod, it starts to get really hard to label and narrowly define things. So, not to call out Ziss, but in this world, does a Harley really mean anything? When you can roll into Hot Topic with a credit card and come out a cutter punk, is their really any authenticity left? I remember when my friends discovered the whole punk thing in the late '80s. We all got really obsessed with it. I mean, I saw a buddy throw away a crate of Beatles LPs. Rules, the cult of cool, authenticity, started to limit our experiences.
Drink the Kool-Aid boys, just don't drink the whole bottle.
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I love how nobody blinks an eye if a businessman spends $1,000 on a suit, but if a you spend $300 on jeans you are a hypebeast. Nobody flinches if a man spends $15,000 rebuilding a muscle car, but spend $175 on a shirt and your fucking crazy. If a man spends hundreds of dollars on fly fishing gear, fiduciary responsibility isn't ever mentioned.
This thing is not about quality, although that has something to do with it. It's not about the longevity of the product -- $300 worth of STF will last you longer than a $300 pair of Iron Heart jeans. It's just a hobby. It's just a thing men of a certain age spend money on. Just call a goddamn spade a spade.
Also, go out to a construction site, none of us dress like construction workers. Buy a pair of cheap, washed-out carpenter jeans, some Wal-Mart boots and a hoodie, then you'll look like a construction worker. Workers haven't donned chambray in like 30 years.
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^ It's the price you pay for functionality -- especially when you're having a rack vs. broom fight. You want your socks to stay in place at moments like that.
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^No dice, brother. I stand by my decision to leave them for the next guy. I have no desire to take all the magic out of the world. They are on a dusty rack in a dumpy thrift shop in the middle of the desert.
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X-post with Vintage Denim?:
Big E 505
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(Slight color adjustment has been made to reflect true color in the top block)
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Here are some detail shots:
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^ My wife said the same thing. They are 505s, so it wasn't like I was leaving a $500 pair of jeans on the rack. They have a super short inseam and some holes, so really they were only a $30-$50 jean. Let some poor desertneck kid with nothing going for him find 'em.
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The Flight Jacket Thread
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^Good God, why are all jacket heads obsessed with killing horses?