Blackplatano

edmond is black

i think so too, i got a pm from black when i got my persimmon jeans and it had an edmond feel to it, tell you the truth i dont think he bugged me as much as he bugged some of you other guys.

i was chatting with with this one girl, and she kept typing hehehe, and when a chick you are kinda trying to bone gives you an edmond vibe, you know its time to move on.

Is this a bad joke? wtf

hater#1: you get no pussy

me: actually, yes I do:)

Idiots: you are SO arrogant OMG! :eek:

Logical poster21: what was he suppose to say? that he doesn't

Let's drop this topic...It went from mildly stupid to fully retarded...seriously

first off, get Lupe's nuts out from between your fingers

just because Jay-Z is a fan of Lupe has nothing to do with him being better or even on the same level as Jigga

if you would stop listening to The Cool on repeat for hours upon hours maybe your ears would be introduced to other kinds of music and you wouldn't have to look like such a Lupe Fiasco STANLEY

If jay-z thinks lupe is nice then that should tell you alot.

I probably know more about jay-z then you !! you just heard resonable doubt the other day and now you feel like a hip hop scholar. You probably think jay-z is the goat, not knowing that jay-z has pretty much admitted that common is a better rapper.

How can I be a stan when I'm not even a huge lupe fan I just started paying attention the other day.

Don't respond or I'll neg you, I don't want to continue this conversation...It sucks.

Let's drop the lupe topic. It get's nowhere fast.

bragging about how much pussy you get is usually the #1 indicator that you're a no-ball pussy loser

I bet you wouldn't say that in my face Mr. e-thug # 9. I also bet you get no action.

THere's a reason nobody take's you seriously dickhead. I bet in real life you are a nerd.

because sometimes things that are meaningful take more effort you fucking retard. who's the desperate one?

i dont think this started out being about "getting quality pussy"...it was about being in love

shut up before i reiterate the james frey joke by posting an oprah clip.

FAIL..

You really sound like a virgin right now. THis topic has become bigger than the original post, why are you switching between the general discussion and the guys problem?

O yea, you have nothing to say. Please get some experience and stop talking in theory.

ight but you can't put Jay-Z on the same level as Lupe

btw where can I get that Dipset Radio joint?

You a fool, jay-z is a fan of lupe and reconizes the crackness of lupe's lyrics publicly. Do your homework.

Yeah, and from your tales of not being able to pull anyone you've known for more than 8 days, it really sounds like it.

THat's when you show your bitchy ness.

A real man has things to do and doesn't waste his time, why would I waste my time and fuck up a relationship trying to fuck a good friend when I can get some quality pussy with less effort? What kinda desperate shit is that?

It has nothing to do with how long you know somebody, it has to do with the level of the friendship douchbag. Your bullshit really shows a lack of experience.

I have seen all of these things work...and had them work for myself. You have no fucking game, and neither do any of your friends. please stop posting advice/input about women, you tragic pussy.

Aren't you a virgin..lol

As for game, nigga please..I was getting pussy when you was taking pictures of yourself to show other men on the internet.

Blackplatano: if i do go for it and strike out, i promise you'll be the first to know. I'll PM you with all the gory details. it'll be like a couple of girlfriends sharing their heartbreak over a pint of ben and jerry's. we can cry and e-hug one another until i feel like i can face the day again.

more explanation and hopefully more advice in a few. right now i have to pretend to be gainfully employed.

Go for it then,

I'm rooting for you..

afterall, isn't one of us getting pussy better then winning a retarted internet arguement?

Anyways,

I'm out of SuFu till the end of the week, When i come back i'm quoting like a mothafucka

OK...I edited my first post.

I listened to the track a couple more times and got some things I missed.

Then I checked my PMs and somebody sent me the above interpretation which I copy and pasted.

I agree with it...but there's still 2 more verses lol

My biggest problem with Lupe is that he bores me. I get irritated with his cadence and his overall flow. To make it even worse his beats (generally, on this record) are some type of hipster pop mix shit with weak hooks. It doesn't really matter how deep his lyrics are.

A good example. When he and Matt Santos performed Superstar on Letterman it sounded great! Why? He switched his flow down a little and they had a live band. If he did the whole record again with organic beats I would probably like it a lot more. Now, I didn't like the last record that much either but there is no doubt that the best tracks were the more soulful ones, like Kick push, Daydreaming and He say, she say.

I don't say I dislike the record or that it's utter trash but to me it's far from as great as (many) of the reviews tells you. And it's most def not on my top 25 for 2007.

You are the typical hip hop listener. You listen to the top layer, and if that doesn't interest you then you consider the record wack. I used to be like that.

But anyways

I used to sleep/hate on Lupe, especially cause he brung skateboarding to the hood, but then I started listening and I realized that he is giving what most Hip hop fans "claim" they want. The problem is that when they get it, they don't like it. So people can hate on the bullshit that plays in the radio for not saying nothing, but when something says something it's just too overwheming.

THere is a reason why people like Dr. cornel west like lupe. It isn't just high school backpackers. But the hate on SuFu is unfounded so it's not worth discussing. It's just hate for the sake of hating. Might as well frop the lupe talk.

i disagree.

friends to fucking is possible. even long-term friends.

anyone who denies that has a very shallow understanding of human emotion and

attraction.

things can develop over time that weren't there before. people grow/change. plain and simple.

It's possible for average joe to bag jessica alba also, but it's highly fucking unlikely.

I can argue your point about the shallow understanding part, since it's plainly wrong and shallow in it's own right.

Yes people change, but first impressions are real important.

Have you ever had a friend who back in school got no respect, and after graduation build up himself to be the shit? If you have, then you should know that what usually happens is that when that guy sees some of his old classmates they will reconize the new him, but still test him and hold his old image agaisnt him. They don't just simply let it go.

So yes people change, but they stay the same.

I think the only way to come to a resonable solution is if the guy went for it and then tells us what happens.

The only problem is that he might lie since who wants to admit they struck out?

either you are lying, extreamly lucky (they were desperate, drunk, etc) or they were just long ass acquaintances.

I have seen the friend to girl friend convertion attempted dozens of times. It works almost as much as the famous girl friend to sister/roommate/best friend upgrade. Which means not a lot. When it does tend to work, it's with needy chicks for some reason.

The Ladder Theory is hilarious, and relevent to the current direction of this thread

LOL holyshit..wtf...

It's like 5 psych nerds/majors getting together to make a master scheme to get layed

did you learn everything you "know" about women from the internet?

your odds with your friends are probably better than with a random sampling of the population

they already know everything youve got going for you

its a one way street though

LOL

lol..I'm still laughing.

Unless you get your game from watching "friends" how can you say this?

Have you heard of a one night stand? Have you ever gone on a vacation and met girls in a resort who seem to be *waiting* to be fucked? Have you ever picked up a girl on the street?

Man, you have to be kidding. Outside of hollywood, friends don't just decide to randomly hook up (unless drunk). And bang buddies and friends with benefits are NOT really friends. When we talk about friends, we mean real friends. Not just girls you had class with back in high school but were too pussy to holla at.

The friends zone is very real fellas. If you don't believe me then cool, learn the hard way. You won't really believe it until you see it with your very eyes anyway.

I spent three hours tonight reading feminist philosophy.

ouch .

bullshit. friends are attainable.

no they are not. Especially if you have to ask about it in effing SuFU.

Of course, anything is possible, but girls are not like guys. Girls

have 2 seperate list for guys they would consider friends and guys

they wanna fuck. Once a guy is best friends with a girl for a long time,

it is almost impossible.

Now, they are exceptions. If a guy considers a girl a friend because he doesn't

see her like that, there is the possibility that she might have him in the "fuck pile",

but if she considers you a friend it's game over.

Rule of thumb is...If your conversations are all mostly about her boyfriends, what she does, i.e nothing...you are on the friends zone.

i think i might be in love with my best friend. she's incredible but kind of volatile as well.

this is a problem b/c:

1) i have a girlfriend who is an exceptionally sweet and loving and good person. unfortunately, she's also kind of boring and prudish and we hardly ever have sex.

2) i don't want to ruin my best and oldest friendship.

fuck.

You are in the friends zone. She will flirt with you, but she is unattentable.

Don't do it.

"nah, yall are trippin if you dont think lupe is the greatest lyricist ever. peep game: on dumb it down he said he was eyeless. that mean HE AINT GOT NO EYES. like a pirate, man. and pirate rhymes with eyeless. but he doesnt even say pirate. thats how deep his metaphors go. hes rhyming shit without even saying the words.KICK PUSH!"

You lost some respect points with this one.

You could sleep on lupe all you want, like I did, cause lupe's rhymes are easy to overlook but they can't be dismissed. Dumb it down is actually disgustinly lyrical. Shit is dense as hell.

Pick any line and it probably means a million things.

Example

"writer of the white powder,

picker of the fire flowers,

spit hot fire like Dylon on Chappelle's skit"

Writer of the white powder, as in cocaine, meaning he writes crack

Picker of the "fire flowers", as in the flowers that give mario and luigi the ability to

spit fire in the Super mario games.

He then proceeds to spit fire like mario, luigi and "dylon on chappelle's skit"

Or another example.

"Something really stinks, but I Sphinx like Leon

Or lion in the desert"

Something stinks (the rap game) but he doesn't smell it cause he is like the "sphinx" in egypt that doesn't have a nose. THen he ads a double meaning by adding the name leon. Lean spinks is the dude that beat muhhamed so he probably saying he a fighter. Lupe shit is deep mayneeee

+DOes SuFu listen to music or do ya just skim through it?+

So I was listening to some tracks, and I realized that we need a thread discussing the meaning of the music we listen to so we can appreciate the true meaning of it.

I'll start first

Lupe fiasco's "Dumb it Down"

[]I'm fearless, Now hear this, I'm earless

[And I'm peerless

^i basically take from this line that he's not afraid to do HIM, the reason he's earless is because he's not listening to the critics telling him to change up his **** to fit in, "peerless" is a play on words, peer means to "seewhich and also your peers as in other rappers...he feels like he stands alone in this game and he doesnt "see" nor hear the critics of his complex lyricism

[Which means I'm tearless

]Which means my iris resides where my ears is

Which means I'm blinded

]But I'mma find it I can feel it's nearness

]But I'mma veer so I don't come near

this carries over from the "peerless" train of thought, he will cry no tears over people criticizing...his iris resides where is ears are, meaning that he really SEES thru music, so thats the only thing that matters to him at this point, as for whats near...i believe he means his dreams of being "that nigg.a" as far as emceeing goes, he knows that he's one step away from "blowing"...but he doesnt, because his artistic convictions wont change just to get a check..which is why he "veers" away from a more mainstream message and possibly a successful career by doing so

But I remember I'm not a listener or a seer so my windshield smear

Here, you steer, I really shouldn't be behind this, clearly cause my blindness

The windshield is minstrel, the whole grill is roadkill

so trill and so sincere. Yeah, I'm both them there

again refering to not seeing or hearing, he doesnt want to "steer" this vehicle of commericial rap because he doesnt feel comfortable..."here you steer", you do THAT, thats not my LANE...the windshield is minstrel = the game makes us out to be bafoons and walking steryotypes, the game as it is now seems to be killing everything in it's path and he doesnt want to be apart of that...offering the steering wheel up to someone else

so trill and so sincere, yea i'm both them there = he's too true to himself to skew his message for sales

Took both pills, when a bloke in a trench coat and the locs in the chair had approached him here

And he clear as a ghost, or a biter of the throats in the mirror

The writer of the quotes for the ghosts who supplier of the notes to the living

taking both "pills" is a matrix refrence, taking both would allow you to be "in the matrix" and still know the truth, that the matrix or the rap game is all lies, he knows this and still continues to participate when most would just quit

clear as a ghost or a biter of the throats in the mirror (vampires have no reflection) = he may say things in a complicated way but if you look you will always find the true purpose of his music, supplying notes to the living is wordplay, he's a ghostwritter

Riveting is rosy, pockets full of posies, given to the mother of the deceased. Awaken at war, 'til I'm restin' in peace

The last part is a reference to rosie the riveter. Once I realized the last line made sense.

Discuss whatever other lyrics you want.

Black Banana..

Do you seriously not see a pattern?

Forget my threads, forget all the posts i've made or jeans i've designed that i'm here peddling for dollars. You hate them all, you've gotten that point across by now.

Let's take the other threads which you post in, have you not noticed a pattern of a gang of other users reacting negatively to your posts?

NO...You see.

SuFu is group with a very defined herd mentality. That mentality is wrong about certain issues. I point out those issues. Some people get mad at me in some threads, but many others agree with me. How do I know? I always receive positive feedback for my opinions that receive the most hate. From people who obviously don't admit that they agree.

The way I see it, people are afraid to say what i say, but they know it's true.

Whether people agree or not, I'll still say whatever I want to say.

Fuck the status quo.

PS. I don't hate your jeans. I just think they could use some changes.

they have some good points. Why no crotch reinforcement (for example)? Wearing tight 21 OZ denim is just not practical for bike riding. Imagine the pain this will inflict in a hot summer day? Remenber, when you sweat in your bike, your jeans shrink. So now your jeans are hot and sweaty and you can't move right cause of the tightness. Also, the jeans that we speak of in this forum aren't as durable as was once though. For $360 will these jeans really outlast a couple of wranglers? 21 oz is a double edge sword people.

As usual, you're wrong on mulitple fronts.

Where should i start?

-Crotch IS reinforced, besides being rivetted at the j-stitch, the crotch cross stitch has been moved 1" up towards the front to avoid sitting on it, then it's been bar-tacked over the usual stitch

-Yes, for $360 they will outlast Wranglers, once again you're a moron for talking about something you know nothing about. I'll bet good money you've never even seen Iron Heart's denim in person, if you had, you'd know it lasts anywhere from 3 to 6 times as long as ANY other denim on the market, especially anything made from Wrangler.

-The IH denim breaths far better than you can imagine, it's a loose weave (slack weave), which is why the denim stretches so much after thirty to fourty wears, it actually breathes better than many other types of denim that are far lower in weight

Please tell me how my initial post was not civil.

Now read Kiya's respond. Is it civil?

If you think my post is NOT civil, but Kiya's is...

then you are an fool/ass kisser

Hey buddy, instead of making yourself look like a total tool, why don't you take the time to stop being so narrow-minded and listen to his actual points. Name calling will get you nowhere in life.

stop posting now before you make an even bigger ass of yourself, douchebag.

Here, take a napkin. Whipe your nose, i think it's brown.

Kiss ass

sorry i'm drunk

+rep lol .

^^^^^^^^^lol